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HIGHLY IMPORTANT NEWS: Probable Battle on the Upper Potomac; Gen. Patterson to Attack the Rebels Yesterday or To-Day; BRISK FIGHTING IN WESTERN VIRGINIA (7/12/1861)
New York Times archives – Times Machine ^ | 7/12/1861

Posted on 07/12/2021 7:57:12 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson

WASHINGTON, Thursday, July 11.

I am enabled to state, on the highest military authority, that a battle has either taken place to- day, or will to-morrow, between Gen. PATTERSON'S command and the rebel forces under Gen. JOHNSTON. Arrangements to this end have positively been made.

The debates in the House to-day developed completely the treachery of VALLANDIGHAM and BURNETT. They had a monopoly of avowed treason, but probably they have about, a score of men in the House who really sympathize with them.

In the Senate, to-morrow, Senators BAYARD, of Delaware, and BRECKINRIDGE, of Kentucky, will speak on the present condition of the country. They will both sustain the rebel side.

Congress, or the responsible majority, has determined the policy it will pursue. It has settled to give the Government all the power asked by the respective Secretaries; to vote one-fifth more men and money than was asked by the President; to declare against any compromise; in favor of a complete subjugation of the rebel States, and then to hold the Administration to a rigid accountability. In pursuance of this understanding, both Houses will push the business before Congress, so as to adjourn within three weeks of the time of meeting.

An effort was made in the Senate caucus this morning to go on with the nomination of a Secretary. The attempt failed, but the friends of FORNEY intend to press it again. It will probably not succeed.

The House Committee on Contested Elections will meet to-morrow for the purpose of proceeding to business. The first case to be taken up is that of BUTLER vs. LEHMAN, from the First District of Pennsylvania.

EDWIN STEVENS, of New-Jersey, is in Washington, with a working model of the celebrated Floating Battery that has long been constructing at Hoboken.

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1 posted on 07/12/2021 7:57:12 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson
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2 posted on 07/12/2021 7:58:30 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation gets the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: chajin; henkster; CougarGA7; BroJoeK; central_va; Larry Lucido; wagglebee; Colonel_Flagg; Amagi; ...
Highly Important News: Probable Battle on the Upper Potomac – 2
Gen. Patterson’s Column: Preparations for a Great Battle – 2
Fighting in Western Virginia – 2-3
Military and Naval Movements – 3
The Battle in Missouri – 3-4
Sailing of the C.S. Steamer Sumter – 4
Reported Death of Gen. Rains – 4
Editorial: Resources of the Rebels-The Supplies of Food – 4-5
Editorial: Bounty Lands to Soldiers – 5
Coming Victories in Virginia – 5-6
Editorial: Round Numbers and Easy Reckoning – 6
Why Not Both Ways? – 6
An Indian Fight – 6
The New-York Dispensaries – 6
The Death of Mrs. Longfellow – 6
3 posted on 07/12/2021 8:08:35 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation gets the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Homer_J_Simpson
"Gen. Patterson’s Column: Preparations for a Great Battle – 2
Fighting in Western Virginia – 2-3"

I can't figure out which "Great Battle" "Patterson's Column" is preparing for.
The last we saw of Union Gen. Patterson was Hoke's Run in West Virginia, a Union victory over Stonewall Jackson's brigade.
Maybe something going on near Manassas, Virginia?

There is indeed fighting in West Virginia, at Rich Mountain, Barboursville and soon, Corrick's Ford.

DateEngagementMilitary UnitsLossesVictor
April 12-14Fort Sumter, SCConfederate artillery (Beauregard), Union garrison (Anderson)NoneCSA
April 15Evacuation of Fort Sumter, SCUnion garrisonTwo Union soldiers killed, four wounded by accidental explosionN.A.
April 19Baltimore Riots, MDMA 6th, PA 26th vs secessionist crowd4 Union soldiers killed, 12 civilians killed, hundreds woundedUSA
May 10St. Louis Riots, MOUnion forces vs secessionist crowd4 Union soldiers killed, 3 prisoners, 28 civilians killedUSA
May 18-19Sewell's Point, VAUnion naval squadron vs Confederate shore artillery10 totalinconclusive
May 29- June 1Aquila Creek, VAUnion naval squadron vs Confederate shore artillery10 totalinconclusive
June 1Fairfax Court House, VAdetachments from CSA & USA armies8 on each side, 1 each killedinconclusive
June 3Philippi, WVAUnion Dept of Ohio (McClellan) -3,000, CSA infantry (Porterfield) -800Union 4, CSA 26 (killed or wounded)USA
June 10Big Bethel, VAUnion (Butler) -3,500, CSA (Magruder) -1,400Union 18-killed 53-wounded, CSA: 1-K 9-WCSA
June 15Hooe's Ferry (near Mathias Point) VAUnion schooner Christina Keen; CSA Farmer's Fork Graysnone -- Christina Keen captured and burnedCSA
June 17Vienna, VADetachments from both Union & CSA armiesUnion: 8 killed, 4 wounded; CSA: none reportedCSA
June 17Boonville, MOUnion Western Dept (Lyon) -1,700 vs. MO State Guard (Marmaduke) ~1,500Union: 5-killed, 7-wounded, MO Guard 5-k 17-wUSA
June 18Camp Cole, MOUnion Home Guards (~500) vs. Confederate State Guards (~350)Union: 35 killed, 60 wounded 25 captured CSA: 7-K, 25-WCSA
June 27Matthias' Point, VAUnion gunboats ~50 vs. Confed garrison ~500Union: 1-killed, 4-wounded; CSA noneCSA
July 2Hoke's Run, WVAUnion Army of the Shenandoah (2 brigades, Patterson) -8,000 vs. Confederate Army of the Shenandoah (1 brigade, Stonewall Jackson) - 4,000 Union: 3-killed, 70-total; CSA 9-killed, 23-totalUSA
July 5Carthage, MOUnion Department of the West (Sigel) -- 1,000 vs. Confederate Missouri State Guard (Jackson) -- 4,000Union: 44-total; CSA 200-totalCSA
July 5Neosho, MOUnion 3rd Missouri vs. Confederate cavalryUnion: 137-total; CSA zero totalCSA
July 8Laurel Hill, WVAUnion Dept of Ohio vs. Confederate Army of the NorthwestUnion: 8-total; CSA unknownUSA
July 11Rich Mountain, WVAUnion Department of the Ohio (McClellan & Rosecrans) -7,000 vs. Confederate Army (Pegram & Garnett) -1,300Union: 46-total; CSA 300-totalUSA
July 12Barboursville, WVAUnion 2nd Kentucky vs. Confederate rangers & localsUnion: 16-total; CSA 1-totalUSA

4 posted on 07/12/2021 8:23:49 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

Poor Mrs. Longfellow.

Not sure what ‘making seals for the entertainment of the kids’ actually means.

I am assuming that she was dripping wax and then pressing the wax with a seal. Which would give us the source for the flame.

She must have been wearing a very combustible dress.


5 posted on 07/12/2021 8:28:56 AM PDT by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap)
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"The Battle in Missouri – 3-4"

Our crack reporters seem to have figured out it was a Confederate victory at Carthage, Missouri, July 5.
They correctly give Union Gen. Sigel credit for fighting a good battle against, they say 3-1, historians say 4-1 odds.

So far, of five battles in Union Missouri, Confederates won three, the Union two.

6 posted on 07/12/2021 8:59:54 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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"Gen. Patterson to Attack the Rebels Yesterday or To-Day"

Interesting report on something that is going to happen yesterday.

7 posted on 07/12/2021 10:06:56 AM PDT by UnwashedPeasant (Trump is the last legally elected U.S. President.)
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To: BroJoeK

July 21 is Bull Run day.

Same as my most beloved long departed German Shepherd’s birthday.


8 posted on 07/12/2021 10:09:38 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs. I )
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

Interesting German spelling for cows.

“Milch” instead of “milk”!


9 posted on 07/12/2021 10:12:22 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs. I )
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To: UnwashedPeasant

Headline writer might have gotten called into the office over that one.


10 posted on 07/12/2021 10:13:26 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation gets the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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July 21 is Bull Run day.

Same as my most beloved long departed German Shepherd’s birthday.

Ours was sometime in November. We didn't know the exact date so we just celebrated it on Thanksgiving. It seemed appropriate.


11 posted on 07/12/2021 10:18:50 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation gets the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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“July 21 is Bull Run day.”

So is my late mother’s birthday.
From western NC, she was a Tea Partier at age 90.
They don’t make women like her anymore... well except for my sisters & daughters! ;-)


12 posted on 07/12/2021 12:07:59 PM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

The death of Mrs. Longfellow was terrible. It was so common in those days for women and girls to die because their dresses caught fire that some newspapers had it as a regular, grisly feature.


13 posted on 07/12/2021 1:43:02 PM PDT by Tax-chick (I found that yelling at my screen did not effect the change I sought.)
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To: Tax-chick

Good to hear from you, Tax-chick. Even if it is on a sorrowful topic.


14 posted on 07/12/2021 1:57:46 PM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation gets the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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Hi.

“Interesting report on something that is going to happen yesterday.”

My fault. The Delorean malfunctioned and I briefed the NYT reporter incorrectly. I was 24 hrs. off.

Damn flux capacitor. Have had this problem since the course started.

Hopefully I can get to Manassas on time.

5.56mm


15 posted on 07/12/2021 2:09:52 PM PDT by M Kehoe (Quid Pro Joe and the Ho need to go.)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

I catch the headlines of this unfortunate war, which I’m sure will be brief, but life is rushed even with only five children still at home.

You’re doing great work!


16 posted on 07/12/2021 2:15:29 PM PDT by Tax-chick (I found that yelling at my screen did not effect the change I sought.)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

Your dogs look very nice!


17 posted on 07/12/2021 2:16:11 PM PDT by Tax-chick (I found that yelling at my screen did not effect the change I sought.)
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They were very nice. Unfortunately, the whole crew is now gone. They were at their peak when I took that photo.


18 posted on 07/12/2021 3:11:34 PM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation gets the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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Oh, that’s too bad.


19 posted on 07/12/2021 3:19:46 PM PDT by Tax-chick (I found that yelling at my screen did not effect the change I sought.)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

Cute dogs. Lovely GS.

My most beloved Was born July 21 and died Nov 21 (put down). Buried her the day before Thanksgiving. It’s been a long long time.


20 posted on 07/12/2021 3:26:12 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs. I )
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