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China will be the next empire to enter the Afghan 'graveyard'
The Hill ^ | July 8 | BY GORDON G. CHANG, OPINION CONTRIBUTOR

Posted on 07/08/2021 8:37:16 AM PDT by RandFan

As Afghanistan descends into tribal warfare following America’s hasty departure, China plans to “swoop in” and “fill the vacuum.”

“Beijing just can’t wait for the U.S. to get out of the way,” Syed Fazl-e-Haider of the Daily Beast reports.

Beijing, which runs a multi-racial empire, does not appear especially concerned that that land-locked, mountainous Afghanistan is often called the “graveyard of empires.”

“Compared with other powers, China has the ability to get involved in Afghan affairs without becoming entangled in it,” writes Zhang Jiadong of Fudan University in the Communist Party’s Global Times. The title of Zhang’s July 6 piece says it all: “China Will Not Fall into ‘Afghan Trap’ as Other Powers Have Bitterly Learned.”

Yes, China has some advantages in Afghanistan that other “empires” did not possess, but the Chinese appear overconfident, nonetheless.

China has long sought control of Afghanistan. For one thing, Beijing has coveted natural resources, especially copper — China has a 30-year lease on the deposits at Mes Aynak. Beijing also eyes the country’s gold, uranium and lithium.

The Chinese still want the minerals, but now their ambitions include tying that country firmly into the Belt and Road Initiative, their global transportation-infrastructure program. Beijing planners, for instance, hope to complete a Kabul-Peshawar highway, linking the Afghan capital to the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor, a $62 billion series of projects that is part of the Belt and Road network.

More importantly, Beijing wants to deny oppressed Turkic minorities a sanctuary. Chinese officials have been surreptitiously working with the terrorist Haqqani network, inside Afghanistan, to go after activists and militants working to free Uyghurs brutally treated in what Beijing calls its Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region. The region shares a 47-mile border with Afghanistan.

Perhaps China’s main advantages in Afghanistan are its firm lock on neighboring Pakistan and Beijing’s long-standing ties to the Taliban, which go as far back to the time the group was in power, from 1996 to 2001. China has supplied the Taliban with weapons and even helped it after the September 11 attacks, according to news reports.

The group now controls vast swaths of the Afghan countryside and appears set to eventually take control of Kabul. The Taliban, unfortunately for Beijing, has opponents operating in the country, and the Chinese could find themselves under attack from Taliban enemies.

“The Taliban isn’t the only challenge to overcome,” Michael Kugelman of the Wilson Center told the Daily Beast. “There are many sources of violence, both anti- and pro-state, in Afghanistan.”

Those sources can be manipulated by India, which is in a position to bedevil Beijing. It was Indian intelligence operatives, after all, who exposed China’s ties to the Haqqani network recently.

India, should it so choose, could cause trouble for China in Afghanistan, and New Delhi has every reason to do so. Chinese troops intruded into Indian-controlled territory in Ladakh in May of last year, and China’s military is now engaged in a massive troop buildup in the Himalayas. Moreover, there is a Chinese encroachment in India’s Sikkim, also in that mountainous range.

As important, Beijing has fully backed Islamabad’s troublemaking in Indian-controlled Kashmir and reportedly has provided support for Pakistani terrorism in India itself. Indian policymakers blame China for the cyberattack crippling the Mumbai electric system in October, as well as 20 recent deaths at the hands of Maoist insurgents.

Moreover, siding with the Taliban could cause trouble for China with the United States, which already sees the People’s Republic as a dangerous actor. Beijing, with venomous propaganda, is going out of its way to aggravate tensions. Wang Yi, the Chinese foreign minister, just blamed Washington “as the origin of problems in Afghanistan.”

The blame game is not wise. Washington is in a position to reduce or even cut off international funding to Kabul. Such aid, the World Bank estimated in 2018, accounted for 40 percent of Afghanistan’s gross domestic product.

Beijing’s assistance to terrorist-supporting organizations like the Taliban will only erode its already low standing in countries important for China. Up to now, the international community has, by and large, not imposed costs on China for its destructive activities, but Beijing would be handing others leverage if it found itself mired in Afghanistan.

Chinese leaders are perhaps the most ambitious group anywhere, so it will be difficult for them to leave Afghanistan alone, especially as that country is one of China’s 14 land neighbors. China is an empire, and its imperial conquests are in its western areas, the ones bordering Afghanistan. The temptation for Chinese imperialists looks irresistible.

So despite what Fudan’s Zhang writes, arrogant Chinese leaders are bound to make mistakes and seek deep involvement in Afghanistan. So far, no “empire” has been able to tame that “country” — if it can be called that — or bring it into the international community.

China will almost certainly fail in the Afghan graveyard.

Gordon G. Chang is the author of “The Coming Collapse of China.”


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1 posted on 07/08/2021 8:37:16 AM PDT by RandFan
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To: RandFan

I expect China to be fine. They will ruthlessly suppress all dissent. They are not shy about dealing with troublemakers. We could never do what they do.

The afghans might ask for assistance, but from whom? Will they invite Russia to invade? Will they invite the US to invade? I think China will have a free hand without any worries about the wider world.


2 posted on 07/08/2021 8:41:27 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: RandFan

China will go scorched Earth in ways the USSR and the USA wouldn’t. China wants the raw resources so it will probably heavily subjugate those areas where it has interests and let the rest of the country hang...or worse. China doesn’t have to coax afghans to work for them...they’ll just bring there own people in.


3 posted on 07/08/2021 8:41:58 AM PDT by mdmathis6 (Having the Conch shell is no longer recognized by Dem "Flies" as giving one authority to speak.)
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To: RandFan

It will last a long time. The Chicoms have millions of young men to spare-one child policy. 15k Soviets died over 10 years. China can handle it and not care.


4 posted on 07/08/2021 8:42:18 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (1)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Exactly. Even the Russians were only willing to sacrifice so many of it’s population. The Chinese can overwhelm the place. Through mass migration Afghanistan will cease to exist as an ethnic idea, you know like is happening in Calimexistan.


5 posted on 07/08/2021 8:46:44 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: RandFan

“China has supplied the Taliban with weapons and even helped it after the September 11 attacks, according to news reports.”

China hates America, stop buying their garbage products


6 posted on 07/08/2021 8:47:01 AM PDT by PMAS (Vote with your wallets, there are 80 million of us - No Amazon, No Chy-Na made )
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To: RandFan

I suspect that the ChiComs will learn the lessons from the past, the lessons that the United States ignored.

So no tanks, no complaints about the child rapes, no interference with the local warlords. Just business deals. China will make out fine.


7 posted on 07/08/2021 8:47:15 AM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: RandFan

Now this could get interesting.
Might be the only thing that the Afghans and Indians work together on.


8 posted on 07/08/2021 8:47:43 AM PDT by TexasM1A
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To: RandFan

Just think of it like going into a garbage-collection joint venture in Newark NJ in 1960. Chinese state-run companies will find the local godfather and pay off him and his people. The locals will provide muscle and protection.

China won’t go the stupid route of trying to reform these people, “build” a nation, or establish an occupying force.


9 posted on 07/08/2021 8:48:12 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: RandFan

China will be the next empire to enter the Afghan ‘graveyard’


Can you spell combat experience and new weapons testing?


10 posted on 07/08/2021 8:48:37 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: RandFan

Chinese are more ruthless that the Russians and Americans.........................


11 posted on 07/08/2021 8:49:00 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: RandFan; bitt

Incoming ughurization.


12 posted on 07/08/2021 8:49:22 AM PDT by ptsal (Vote R.E.D. >>>Remove Every Democrat ***)
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To: Leaning Right

If there is a problem. There’s this mysterious illness in the local population that only the Chinese can cure.


13 posted on 07/08/2021 8:49:39 AM PDT by Reily
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To: ClearCase_guy

Just what biden wants.


14 posted on 07/08/2021 8:50:15 AM PDT by George from New England
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To: RandFan

“Compared with other powers, China has the ability to get involved in Afghan affairs without becoming entangled in it,” ..... sure thing. They’ll do what everyone else has been doing for the last 20 years. Dumping money into the place, leadership will steal as much as they can so they can set their families up in Dubai, London, Paris, or somewhere else of their choosing, give the people nothing and when the bank account reaches a certain point, they’ll leave. They pass the scam off to the next guy in exchange for a sizable fee.

The people will still eat dirt and kill each other for looking at each other wrong or because of some argument that took place 100 years ago.

However the Chinese aren’t going to be messing around with some chumps.

The Chinese are going to come in there with all sorts of promises that they have no intention of keeping. Gonna piss off the locals. And well........

Kyrgyzstan: Hundreds of Locals Attack Chinese Gold Mine .... https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2019/08/06/kyrgyzstan-hundreds-locals-attack-chinese-gold-mine/

Shooting of Zimbabwe workers by Chinese mine owner shows ‘systemic’ abuse, watchdog says ..... https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/27/africa/zimbabwe-mine-shooting-intl/index.html

The Afghani’s got AKs, Dishka’s and RPGs, and they know how to use them. And in the words of Homey D Clown...I don’t think so, Homey don’t play dat.


15 posted on 07/08/2021 8:51:00 AM PDT by qaz123
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To: RandFan

The Chinese will win, because they will not hesitate to kill as many Afghans as needed and can move hordes of ethnic Chinese into the country just like Tibet. They can outflank India in this way and can count on support from Pakistan to suppress insurgent activity originating there.


16 posted on 07/08/2021 8:51:18 AM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: Red Badger

They don’t care about “World Opinion”.


17 posted on 07/08/2021 8:51:24 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Leaning Right

Just business deals. China will make out fine.

Don’t be so sure. The CCP would love it as a place to colonize with Han Chinese. Mass incarceration and mass murders are part of the CCP way of doing ‘business’.


18 posted on 07/08/2021 8:53:09 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: ClearCase_guy

“I expect China to be fine. They will ruthlessly suppress all dissent. They are not shy about dealing with troublemakers. We could never do what they do.”

Sadly, I agree. They are perfectly fine not playing by standard Geneva rules. They will play to win.


19 posted on 07/08/2021 8:54:36 AM PDT by BBQToadRibs2
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To: ClearCase_guy

Agree with your assessment.


20 posted on 07/08/2021 8:54:59 AM PDT by Starboard
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