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Reasons for Cohabitation: Woman, "Preparation for Marriage". Man: "Sex, when and where you want it."
RD | 1994 | K.C. Scott

Posted on 06/29/2021 5:15:45 PM PDT by CharlesOConnell

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To: Secret Agent Man

But research shows there is a “marriage premium” for men that includes:

• A financial return that includes higher earnings, more assets and more job stability. Married men make about $16,000 more than their single peers with otherwise similar backgrounds.

• Better sex lives compared to both single and cohabiting men. According to data from the National Health and Social Life Survey, 51 percent of married men reported they were extremely emotionally satisfied with sex, compared to 39 percent of cohabiting men and 36 percent of single men.

• Longer lives. Men who get and stay married live almost 10 years longer than their unmarried peers. Also, young married men are about twice as happy: 43 percent of married men report they are “very happy” with life, compared to 20 percent of single men and 24 percent of cohabiting men.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/02/170207135943.htm


41 posted on 06/29/2021 6:28:53 PM PDT by Valpal1
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To: TauntedTiger

May you remain going strong for your lifetimes :-)


42 posted on 06/29/2021 6:29:40 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: Secret Agent Man

Most courts do a very good job of splitting up the assets fairly between the woman and her lawyer. Was there any other party who is supposed to get any of the assets?

And then there are the liabilities. Guess which party gets those.


43 posted on 06/29/2021 6:29:48 PM PDT by Degaston
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To: Caipirabob

You didn’t mention how government is a huge partner in marriages, especially the Family Courts. That’s just the way the world works in the 21st century.


44 posted on 06/29/2021 6:34:29 PM PDT by Degaston
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To: CharlesOConnell

So men shouldn’t marry.


45 posted on 06/29/2021 6:36:26 PM PDT by wastedyears (The left would kill every single one of us and our families if they knew they could get away with it)
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To: Caipirabob
I was taught that God is Love.

When there is love between people, God is there.

'If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us.'
46 posted on 06/29/2021 6:38:01 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: CharlesOConnell
"Man: "Sex, when and where you want it."


47 posted on 06/29/2021 6:38:18 PM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: Jamestown1630; All

I se what you are doing and so does everyone else.

You arent interested in actual discussion. You are interested in geting any information you think will help in your attempt to invalidate my ability to speak on the topic.

So maybe just stop that. We all see it. And i am not going to reward you for it.


48 posted on 06/29/2021 6:39:50 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Valpal1

“....43 percent of married men report they are “very happy” with life...”

The other 57 percent hung themselves.😎


49 posted on 06/29/2021 6:42:36 PM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: dfwgator

LOL — I always liked that song, but to be honest I did not realize that lyric was in it.


50 posted on 06/29/2021 6:42:57 PM PDT by Michael.SF. (Never do anything illegal, when you are doing something illegal. )
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To: Jamestown1630; Secret Agent Man
We can always count on you, SAM. It must have been one horrible divorce...

Whatever SAM's story is... Bet I've heard worse from some women.

One of the worst was a woman with terminal cancer. She said she was the breadwinner in the family. She loved and trusted her husband, so his name was on everything. After she was diagnosed, he emptied all the accounts, including the kids' college funds, and took off with another woman.

51 posted on 06/29/2021 6:47:05 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: Tired of Taxes

Meanness, evil and greed have no sexual identification.

Some men are just as bad as some women are.


52 posted on 06/29/2021 6:56:32 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: Secret Agent Man
Yet they don’t tell young men the truth.

I do.

Women have been lied to and brainwashed. Don't marry an American woman unless you do your homework!

53 posted on 06/29/2021 6:56:42 PM PDT by Tommy Revolts
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To: Tired of Taxes

You havent heard enough stories.

Plenty of women do the same when the man gets sick. They toss him in a cheap nursing home and then take everything and leave.

It happens more than you think and its hardly one sided. In any case its sickening behavior.


54 posted on 06/29/2021 7:01:56 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

So, what do you do for sex?


55 posted on 06/29/2021 7:02:49 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: Jamestown1630; Secret Agent Man

Even if Secret Agent Man had a terrible divorce, it doesn’t make his statement less true. Young men live in an era of free milk. Set aside religion/morality for a moment. Why should a man get married? Why should he pay for what some woman had been giving away free to other men? If you think there are many virgin brides walking down the aisle you’re kidding yourself.

What exactly does marriage offer a man that single life does not? All I can think of is the family/children/leaving a legacy angle. That’s nice. But it’s also risky. Because society and other women are screaming at wives saying, you deserve more. And any moment a wife can give her husband the I’M NOT HAPPY EXCUSE and end the marriage. 70% of divorces are initiated by women.


56 posted on 06/29/2021 7:02:53 PM PDT by BJ1
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To: Tommy Revolts

Homework wont help.

It wont save him. It might reduce the risks. It wont get rid of any of them, and it wont give him back any of the benefits of marriage that have been taken away from men over time.


57 posted on 06/29/2021 7:04:35 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Degaston

I take back what I wrote earlier because I don’t have any good data on this.

What I do know is that Marriage in the 2020s has evolved a lot over the past 60 years in the USA and possibly other countries. No matter what anyone thinks of the institution of Marriage its a legal construct with benefits, responsibilities, and liabilities for those who enter it where their individual life/responsibilities become partially the property of their partner and also for those involved in the system. Same goes for the processes involved with having children where Age 18 (and in some jurisdictions this gets extended out much longer partially or widely) is a boundary where the lives of the parents are managed heavily by the system until they get past that milestone.

In order to have honest dialogue on this topic I think a few considerations are in order.
(1) Honestly address the benefits of marriage for men and women.
(2) Honestly address the liabilities of marriage for men and women.
(3) Look at the data carefully, in particular on what happens in case of divorce with who gets assets, liabilities, spousal support, parent time, how much of the income, responsibility for attorneys fees, and more.
(4) International considerations - we live in the Internet era and jet plane flights are a lot less costly than they were in the past. No longer do men and women have a limited dating pool. Its literally hundreds of millions of men/women in the market and the laws of supply/demand are at work.
(5) Post-Divorce Effective Tax Rates - do the math on why so many become “deadbeat”.

The bottom line is that Marriage is a contractual relationship which requires a huge amount of TRUST for people to enter if they are well-informed.


58 posted on 06/29/2021 7:06:36 PM PDT by Degaston
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To: Jamestown1630

Do you think sex is worth all the risk for men? You have no idea what the risks are for men, given you are a woman.

Its funny you shift the focus on sex.


59 posted on 06/29/2021 7:09:44 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Degaston
"And then there are the liabilities. Guess which party gets those."

Yeah, had an ex that tried to come after me years later when unpaid taxes were due.

Successfully pointed out to the IRS that she had retained all tax records, and that the divorce settlement clearly spelled that I was not responsible for anything like what she was trying pull.

After stealing thousands from me with here sneaky bank transactions that I had no idea about, then to come trying to pry a few more thousand left me with a permanent bias against her culture.

60 posted on 06/29/2021 7:11:15 PM PDT by doorgunner69 ("Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything.." -Joseph Stalin)
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