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CDC reports 4,115 breakthrough COVID-19 cases involving hospitalizations or deaths
https://www.foxnews.com ^ | June 28, 2021 | Alexandria Hein

Posted on 06/28/2021 8:09:45 AM PDT by SgtHooper

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has received reports of 4,115 patients with COVID-19 vaccine breakthrough cases who were hospitalized or died. Of those cases, 26% of hospitalizations were reported as asymptomatic or not related to COVID-19, and 19% of the 750 fatalities were reported as asymptomatic or not related to COVID-19.

The data, which includes information through June 21, is amid a backdrop of 150 million people who are fully vaccinated in the U.S. Nearly half of the breakthrough cases, or 49%, involve females, and 3,124, or 76%, occurred in patients ages 65 years and older.

Officials have long predicted vaccine breakthrough cases would be reported, as "no vaccines are 100% effective at preventing illness in vaccinated people." The agency has also warned there would be a "small percentage" of vaccinated people who get sick, require hospitalization or even die from COVID-19.

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Nominal COVID breakthrough cases, but breakthrough, nonetheless.
1 posted on 06/28/2021 8:09:45 AM PDT by SgtHooper
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To: SgtHooper

Also worth pointing out!

https://conservative.ly/exposed-facebooks-independent-covid-fact-checker-site-factcheck-org-funded-by-1-9-billion-vaccine-lobby

Facebook fact-checker organization received $1.9 billion from the vaccine industry.

They will continue to cover up facts to promote this virus and pave the way for Marxism.


2 posted on 06/28/2021 8:13:36 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (“Fraud vitiates everything.” )
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To: SgtHooper

99.2% of the COVID-19 deaths in May were from unvaccinated people, despite the fact that 78% of those over 65 (who are most likely to die from COVID-19) are fully vaccinated. In other words, the vaccines work extremely well.

99.2%. That’s 17,850 out of 18,000 COVID deaths. President Trump was right when he called them “medical miracles”.


3 posted on 06/28/2021 8:23:13 AM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: SgtHooper

Compared to what, without vaccinations?


4 posted on 06/28/2021 8:24:59 AM PDT by nagant
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To: SgtHooper

5 posted on 06/28/2021 8:26:17 AM PDT by lightman (I am a binary Trinitarian. Deal with it!)
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To: SgtHooper

They knew last year. And did it anyway.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XTiL9rUpkg

The damage has just begun.


6 posted on 06/28/2021 8:43:34 AM PDT by dforest (huh?)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Yeah, you read that wrong. The charitable trust - Robert Wood Johnson Foundation - didn’t give the Facebook fact-check organization $1.9B. Instead, the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation holds $1.9B in Big Pharma stock. See the difference?

A $1.9B donation would have been one of the biggest charitable donations in the history of charitable donations. That didn’t happen. Instead, this lobbying group gave $53K to the ‘fact-checker.’

FWIW, in addition to being an ENORMOUS health care foundation, the Robert Wood Johnson (Johnson & Johnson co-founder) Foundation is one of the largest contributors to media causes in the country, perhaps the biggest contributor. Whatever city you live in, the local PBS station is likely a recipients of gifts and grants from the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation.


7 posted on 06/28/2021 8:44:43 AM PDT by ScubaDiver (Reddit refugee.)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest
99.2% of the COVID-19 deaths in May were from unvaccinated people, despite the fact that 78% of those over 65 (who are most likely to die from COVID-19) are fully vaccinated

What does "fully vaccinated" mean? Received a second dose 10 seconds before being infected by the virus? One month before?

8 posted on 06/28/2021 8:46:48 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Re-imagine the media!)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

One is considered fully vaccinated 14 days after their last vaccine dose. For Moderna and Pfizer, that’s 14 days after the second dose. For J&J, that’s 14 days after the single dose is given.

It takes the body a while to fully ramp up the lymphocyte response. That’s the point of vaccination: ramp that up ahead of time so that by the time you’re exposed to the pathogen, your body is already prepared to destroy it, rather than your body having to play catch-up while the pathogen is busy replicating and destroying critical organs.


9 posted on 06/28/2021 8:56:01 AM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: nagant

They’re just throwing numbers out there to scare people.

For instance, if I just said 150 fully vaccinated people died from COVID-19 in May, that might worry you. And if I’m not providing any context, that’s probably why - because I want to scare you. However, I’ll provide the context that during that same period, 17,850 unvaccinated people died from COVID-19. I’ll share more context that 78% of those over 65 (those most likely to die from COVID-19) are fully vaccinated, meaning that if the vaccines did nothing at all, you would expect roughly 78% of the deaths to be among vaccinated persons. But it wasn’t. 150 is 0.8% of the total 18,000 who died of COVID-19 in May.

Context is required to put things into perspective. If someone isn’t giving you any context, they’re trying to sell you a story that probably isn’t true.


10 posted on 06/28/2021 9:00:20 AM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

Thanks. I received the 2nd moderna dose 3 months ago. I will not judge others for taking the vaccine, waiting, or not taking it. For example, an unvaccinated friend just had a triple bypass operation. I probably would have waited if I had been in his shoes.


11 posted on 06/28/2021 9:20:59 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Re-imagine the media!)
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To: SgtHooper

the 750 fatalities were reported as asymptomatic or not related to COVID-19.


12 posted on 06/28/2021 9:28:06 AM PDT by Pirate Ragnar
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

Agreed. In your friend’s shoes, I would have been having a lot of conversations with my doctors and would have been very leery about introducing something new. I probably would have isolated myself as much as possible during recovery and then gotten it.

I think each person needs to make their own informed decisions about medical issues like vaccination. I just think they should have all the available information so they can make their call based on facts; not fear, fiction, and fantasy.


13 posted on 06/28/2021 9:28:44 AM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest
First off, no one is blaming President Trump. He did what was necessary to begin the opening up process. He did not make these vaccines. What he did do was to make sure that they were designated as for emergency use only, and thus were not mandatory. So they could not discriminate against those who chose not to get the vaccination in what is essentially the largest trial of a drug that is unproven as being both safe and effective.

As for them working, some are, while some are experiencing horrendous affects, including death. There have already been more deaths associated than all the approved vaccines this country has administered. For the Swine Flu they stopped the vaccination program after 25 deaths. We have exceeded that number by a factor of 2000+, yet the vaccines are still being pushed, and in a lot of cases demanded to retain your job or attend the college you were attending previously.

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So, saying they work is at best ambiguous. It needs to be stressed that people who freely take these vaccines are guinea pigs in a human trial. Furthermore, those who chose not to be part of this vaccine trial should face no repercussions whatsoever for non participation in these trials.

Even the doctor, Dr. Malone, who was an inventor of the mRNA vaccines has concerns about them:

mRNA vaccine inventor speaks out on 'Tucker' after YouTube deletes video of him discussing risks

14 posted on 06/28/2021 9:33:48 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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The deaths you’re claiming are “associated with” the vaccines are deaths that happened at some point after someone got vaccinated. In other words, grandma who’s 95 years old got vaccinated and died a few days or weeks later. Death reported, by law, by healthcare providers to VAERS. Doesn’t matter what she died of; the law says the death must be reported to VAERS.

There have been reports of people in hospice getting vaccinated. Why on Earth would someone in hospice be vaccinated? Yet here they are, and when they die, those deaths go into VAERS as well.


15 posted on 06/28/2021 9:37:53 AM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: ScubaDiver

So just a large conflict of interest.

Thanks for the correction


16 posted on 06/28/2021 9:38:54 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (“Fraud vitiates everything.” )
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

Note: You want to watch the 2nd video, as the 1st cut off for some reason.


17 posted on 06/28/2021 9:40:34 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest
I notice you didn't even mention doctor Malone and what he had to say. So, I have to assume you didn't even bother to watch what he had to say. Since he was involved in the creation of mRNA vaccines, I take what he has to say as being far more authoritative than what you may say. Not being mean, but what he has to say caries a lot more weight than you whom I don't even know from whence you are speaking.

In addition, you are being disingenuous when you mention someone in hospice being vaccinated and dying and was reported, because the VAERS database only contains about 10% of what is actually being reported.

The deaths you’re claiming are “associated with” the vaccines are deaths that happened at some point after someone got vaccinated.

Are you really trying to say that all those deaths in that chart are people who were compromised individuals health wise?

While that certainly might explain a percentage of them, there are many examples of young healthy people dying, a 13 year old healthy male, a 19th year old healthy girl who was excited about getting her second shot. Those are only 2 examples, but there are plenty more. But beyond the deaths that chart also lists many other adverse effects due to the "vaccines", and they are large numbers, not insignificant numbers associated with those adverse effects.

18 posted on 06/28/2021 9:57:13 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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"I notice you didn't even mention doctor Malone and what he had to say."

I don't have a ton of feedback about Dr. Malone's comments is all. I do agree that Dr. Malone is an expert, but much of what Dr. Malone has said has been taken entirely to an unintended extreme. What he's actually said is that he wants more transparency about risks associated with the vaccines from governments and that he doesn't believe the risk/benefit justifies vaccination for those under 18. Both are fair opinions to have. It's worth noting at this point that while Dr. Malone pioneered a lot of the early work on mRNA and DNA vaccines, he didn't create or work on these particular ones. Not saying he has no credit; just pointing out that he's not the be-all end-all expert on all current and future mRNA vaccines.

"Are you really trying to say that all those deaths in that chart are people who were compromised individuals health wise?"

Not at all. What I'm saying is that people die every day. An average of 7,800 per day. Most of them are older folks, but you get some at every age group. Unfortunately, even among children. Each of those deaths absolutely should be (and is) investigated to determine a cause of death. And if that investigation determines that a COVID-19 vaccine (or really any vaccine or medicine) is responsible, that's a big deal and deserves a lot of work to understand exactly why it happened and how we can minimize the risk of further deaths.

However, despite the anecdotes of some otherwise seemingly healthy people dying suddenly at some point in the days, weeks, or months after COVID vaccination, I've seen no evidence of the medical investigations performed after death uncovering any evidence of significant or widespread instances of the vaccines playing any role in those deaths. I'm aware of a single case where a medical examiner (in I believe Arizona) determining that a COVID-19 vaccine MAY have played a role in a someone's death. Out of 179,261,269 Americans who've had a COVID-19 vaccine, that's literally the only case I have seen where a medical professional with first-hand knowledge of the case determined even a POSSIBLE link between a COVID-19 vaccine and a death.

Dylan Thomas was a 16 year old high school football player in Georgia. Not just healthy, but about as physically fit as you can get. Died suddenly a week after his last game. No indication of any injury during the game. John Kirkby was a 23 year old pro soccer player who collapsed and died during a soccer game. There's a lot of research that's gone into studying these kinds of things, particularly among athletes where it's most common, like this one from 2001. Even among non-athletes, bad things can happen. A 14 year old girl named Zosia Wasylewski had a stroke in math class. No warning signs, no medical history.

What's important here is to look at each individual report of something bad happening and determine whether there's an unusual pattern that might indicate whether the vaccines are causing something. That's what VAERS is for: not to directly link Event A with the vaccine, but to say that Event A is happening with a frequency it shouldn't be, so we need to look into why and determine whether it's related to the vaccine.

The VAERS website states this directly in multiple places, as does the HHS Guide to Interpreting VAERS Data.

19 posted on 06/28/2021 10:26:34 AM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

The reason why you can’t answer my question is that it can’t be answered. How many vaccinated people caught COVID, but had symptoms vastly reduced from what they would have been if they had not been vaccinated. There are studies comparing the incidence and severity of vaccinated people to the same outcomes among unvaccinated people. People vaccinated with mRNA vaccines were more than 95% less likely to catch COVID-19, and the symptoms of the breakthrough cases were far attenuated compared to unvaccinated people who caught COVID-19.


20 posted on 06/28/2021 10:30:54 AM PDT by nagant
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