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To: 2aProtectsTheRest
I notice you didn't even mention doctor Malone and what he had to say. So, I have to assume you didn't even bother to watch what he had to say. Since he was involved in the creation of mRNA vaccines, I take what he has to say as being far more authoritative than what you may say. Not being mean, but what he has to say caries a lot more weight than you whom I don't even know from whence you are speaking.

In addition, you are being disingenuous when you mention someone in hospice being vaccinated and dying and was reported, because the VAERS database only contains about 10% of what is actually being reported.

The deaths you’re claiming are “associated with” the vaccines are deaths that happened at some point after someone got vaccinated.

Are you really trying to say that all those deaths in that chart are people who were compromised individuals health wise?

While that certainly might explain a percentage of them, there are many examples of young healthy people dying, a 13 year old healthy male, a 19th year old healthy girl who was excited about getting her second shot. Those are only 2 examples, but there are plenty more. But beyond the deaths that chart also lists many other adverse effects due to the "vaccines", and they are large numbers, not insignificant numbers associated with those adverse effects.

18 posted on 06/28/2021 9:57:13 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: Robert DeLong
"I notice you didn't even mention doctor Malone and what he had to say."

I don't have a ton of feedback about Dr. Malone's comments is all. I do agree that Dr. Malone is an expert, but much of what Dr. Malone has said has been taken entirely to an unintended extreme. What he's actually said is that he wants more transparency about risks associated with the vaccines from governments and that he doesn't believe the risk/benefit justifies vaccination for those under 18. Both are fair opinions to have. It's worth noting at this point that while Dr. Malone pioneered a lot of the early work on mRNA and DNA vaccines, he didn't create or work on these particular ones. Not saying he has no credit; just pointing out that he's not the be-all end-all expert on all current and future mRNA vaccines.

"Are you really trying to say that all those deaths in that chart are people who were compromised individuals health wise?"

Not at all. What I'm saying is that people die every day. An average of 7,800 per day. Most of them are older folks, but you get some at every age group. Unfortunately, even among children. Each of those deaths absolutely should be (and is) investigated to determine a cause of death. And if that investigation determines that a COVID-19 vaccine (or really any vaccine or medicine) is responsible, that's a big deal and deserves a lot of work to understand exactly why it happened and how we can minimize the risk of further deaths.

However, despite the anecdotes of some otherwise seemingly healthy people dying suddenly at some point in the days, weeks, or months after COVID vaccination, I've seen no evidence of the medical investigations performed after death uncovering any evidence of significant or widespread instances of the vaccines playing any role in those deaths. I'm aware of a single case where a medical examiner (in I believe Arizona) determining that a COVID-19 vaccine MAY have played a role in a someone's death. Out of 179,261,269 Americans who've had a COVID-19 vaccine, that's literally the only case I have seen where a medical professional with first-hand knowledge of the case determined even a POSSIBLE link between a COVID-19 vaccine and a death.

Dylan Thomas was a 16 year old high school football player in Georgia. Not just healthy, but about as physically fit as you can get. Died suddenly a week after his last game. No indication of any injury during the game. John Kirkby was a 23 year old pro soccer player who collapsed and died during a soccer game. There's a lot of research that's gone into studying these kinds of things, particularly among athletes where it's most common, like this one from 2001. Even among non-athletes, bad things can happen. A 14 year old girl named Zosia Wasylewski had a stroke in math class. No warning signs, no medical history.

What's important here is to look at each individual report of something bad happening and determine whether there's an unusual pattern that might indicate whether the vaccines are causing something. That's what VAERS is for: not to directly link Event A with the vaccine, but to say that Event A is happening with a frequency it shouldn't be, so we need to look into why and determine whether it's related to the vaccine.

The VAERS website states this directly in multiple places, as does the HHS Guide to Interpreting VAERS Data.

19 posted on 06/28/2021 10:26:34 AM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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