Posted on 06/27/2021 12:38:10 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods
The letter cites numerous concerns about lack of data and the lack of a preliminary safety assessment for the FAA to review.
“The FAA will not approve any aircraft unless it meets our safety and certification standards,” the agency said in a statement Sunday.
(Excerpt) Read more at bedrockbrief.com ...
Yes, and companies requiring jet travel of their employees could mandate they fly only on this experimental airliner model OR LOSE THEIR JOBS.
Yep, the rules write themselves for this one.
Yup. By refusing to fly in a 777 you are endangering all of those that did fly on a 777.
It seems racist not to fly on this plane.
Elderly people get First Class seating!
I’ve flown on the 777 a few times. Depending on the configuration, it’s not really as comfortable as any other jet not even in first class. Sleeper seats are like a hard padded futon.
I have no idea the difference between a 777 and 777x - I am guessing software. But maybe like the 737Max they moved the engines and reinforced the wings.
Did fly a 787 once. Relatively short distance for what it is capable of. Nicer.
The problem that Boeing has is that the FAA used to trust companies to do much of their regulatory work - more or less to ‘self certify’ the details of their designs, with the reasonable expectation that the manufacturers knew they had far more to lose if a design was defective and led to a crash.
And the system worked, for decades. But then Boeing decided that paper-pushers from outside with top-rated stock options were better than serious managers at the top and looked for ‘cost savings’ and found the obvious weakness in the FAA system - it required ‘trust’.
So, they tossed that out and made their design on the cheap and self-certified that design. In the particular case of the crashes, Boeing, of course, knew that crashes weren’t good, but they also knew that well-trained pilots could handle those situations. And if the pilots weren’t well-trained, then they get the blame and Boeing washes their hands. ehhh - doesn’t quite work that way, though.
So, why did it take years instead of weeks to start flying the Max again, when a few lines of code would do the trick? Because what other skeletons were being hidden by Boeing...it takes time to dig-in, and they did find at least one in the wiring (and probably lots more).
So on to the 777-X...the problem with that plane is that the FAA now trusts NOTHING from Boeing, and has to go through every detail of every system with a microscope.
...and all to save a few bucks on the Max.
this crowd is brutal lol
All Boeing planes are listed as experimental until sold; that way they don’t have to pay some sort of taxes to WA.
I have a friend who is a senior pilot/flight instructor for a major airline. He said two interesting things recently after more than 2 beers:
“Southwest is THE worst airline in the industry.”
“My biggest challenge as an instructor is that these planes are so reliable that pilots sleepwalk through their flights and when they’ve flown for 35 years and one day something goes wrong, they aren’t ready to immediately react because it’s such a shock. I show them what can happen using the flight simulators, but they know they are in a simulator and something will be set to go wrong.”
“All Boeing planes are listed as experimental until sold; that way they don’t have to pay some sort of taxes to WA.”
Right, but this article applies to the approval process by the FAA. I was amused by the parallels-differences between the FAA and the CDC/WHO when it comes to approving products.
Fly the new Boeing 777x and you could win a million dollars!
Another problem is that all the expertise is at Boeing, not the FAA. Fauci is supposedly the top paid bureaucrat in the federal government at $400,000 a year or so. That means everyone at the FAA is making less than that. The people with the 50 lb. heads that it takes to design something as complex as a modern jetliner are getting paid well by Boeing, not working for the FAA so you end up with second tier people overseeing the designs that they're not capable of working on themselves. They don't have the expertise at the FAA to fully understand what they're certifying.
I’d volunteer to go on a verification flight on a 777X, or any new Boeing or Airbus. The Max problem made Boeing, the FAA and the accident airlines look bad. Boeing has the deepest pockets, so the Max was their fault. New airplanes are incredibly safe, both Boeing and Airbus. Competent pilots would not have crashed either of the Max aircraft. consider what Captain Sulley did with the Airbus on the Hudson or Captain Haynes did with the DC-10 in Souix City.
The Boeing 777X is the latest series of the long-range, wide-body, twin-engine Boeing 777 family from Boeing Commercial Airplanes. The 777X features new GE9X engines, new composite wings with folding wingtips, greater cabin width and seating capacity, and technologies from the Boeing 787. The 777X was launched in November 2013 with two variants: the 777-8 and the 777-9. The 777-8 provides seating for 384 passengers and has a range of 8,730 nmi (16,170 km) while the 777-9 has seating for 426 passengers and a range of over 7,285 nmi (13,500 km). The 777-9 first flew on January 25, 2020, with deliveries expected to commence in late 2023.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_777X
I think you’re exactly right, the best paid engineering jobs are not at the FAA, they are at Boeing or Airbus. So the most experienced and best qualified are not working for the government.
The “Max” fix involved a lot more than “a few lines of code”.
Very good points.
There is a deeper issue that modern planes are so complex that is is impossible for the FAA to verify everything.
Sorry, but I LOVE Southwest...particularly their luggage/changes policies (no charge for either, and the changes policy has saved me many thousands). Their safety record is as good as any other, at least as far as I can tell.
I do agree on the sleep walking - pilots are forced to spend most of their time figuring out how the stupid computers are supposed to work, instead of learning how to actually FLY an airplane...and yes, when things go wrong, they’re clueless.
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