North Korea Has Collapsed: The Headline You Don’t Want To Ever See

[DIRTYSECRET]

What is left to say at this point when it comes to that “Hermit Kingdom” everyone loves to hate? North Korea, or also known as the so-called Democratic People’s Republic, is the ultimate Pandora’s Box and every president’s worst nightmare: A-bombs, chemical toxins, biological weapons, and missiles to lob them all over the world—including now at the continental United States. And Pyongyang knows how to get the news cycle to turn its way—thanks to making Northeast Asia shake with nuclear weapons tests.

[Ozark Tom]

China policy on ceasing import of Australian coal made an assumption upon expansion of domestic supply, which continues a failure to deliver. Their coal supply in the distribution network is experiencing shortfalls for steelmaking and power plant.

[riri]

You do not seriously expect American families t

And what for? So in less than a generation they can all be wearing pussy hats? (see SK)

Hard pass. As you say, the war is here.

[amnestynone]

I doubt that it is that bleak. I think there are other soursces and it is probable that the Red Chinks will keep the factories open anyway.

[Olog-hai]

Sounds like you’re willing to deal with Red China no matter the continued cost to the USA’s existence.

[amnestynone]

"Sounds like you’re willing to deal with Red China no matter the continued cost to the USA’s existence." First off china is controlled by a communist party, but, it is not communist and “red” china does not constitute an existentialist threat to us. It is adversarial for some reason. But, we can and will coexist until they develop another political system compatible with the mixed economic system they have in place.

[Olog-hai]

So the answer is yes.

Red China is absolutely communist. Please dispense with that lie.

“In all probability, the proletarian revolution will transform existing society gradually and will be able to abolish private property only when the means of production are available in sufficient quantity.”

— The Principles of Communism, point 17

Lenin followed this principle with his New Economic Policy, just as Red China follows it from Teng Hsiao-p’ing’s dictatorship to the present day.

U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.

— Communist goal #1

Since the commies have always wanted “coexistence” as a means to further their goals, attempting to preach it to me as something that conservatives should acquiesce to paints you as a communist. The Kennan Doctrine must die.

[amnestynone]

Ridiculous, China now encourages entrepreneurship and becoming wealthy. China is no longer communist except in name only. Why on earth do you think they a booming economy. Your statement is ludicrous. There is nothing communist about China except the name of thier party. Do you not see what is going on in the world?

[proud American in Canada]

I think that the Cadaver-in-Chief and his VP have successfully made America into the laughingstock of the world.

In just six short months.

They certainly are efficient, if nothing else.

[Olog-hai]

Please stop lying. All “entrepreneurs” are party members, i.e. their system’s nomenklatura. Not to mention, look at what they did to Hong Kong just recently. And multiple bubbles are not a “booming economy”.

Communist literature going way back makes it obvious what the CCP are engaging in. You’re repeating Clinton-era propaganda. If you’re opusing, at least try to make it less obvious.

[amnestynone]

nonsense, I am not lying they have drifting away from communism as an economic system and have been. Some people classify them as state capitalism.

[amnestynone]

does this look like a Communist system? these are street vendors selling thier goods. Jack Ma is one of the riches men in the world selling his products through alibaba. c’mon man at least know what you are talking about before posting.https://duckduckgo.com/?q=small+business+street+vendors+china&t=h_&iar=images&iax=images&ia=images

[Olog-hai]

The term “state capitalism” comes from Marx’s writings. The fifth plank of communism stipulates the creation “of a national bank with state capital and an exclusive monopoly”.

Did you ignore where Engels said that communist states “would transform existing society gradually”?

Not to mention that actual communism has no definition. There is no such thing as an all-powerful totalitarian state “wither(ing) away” to become “an association in which the free development of each is the condition for the free development of all”, whatever that’s supposed to mean.

Do you know anything about this subject?

[Olog-hai]

Red herring. And please read post 52 carefully; hopefully it will break you of your habit of continuing to believe Clinton/Bush propaganda.

[amnestynone]

That is not germain to this state capitalism. Gradually evolving the country towards communism is not what is happening. The country is evolving away from Communism. It still needs to go further but it has passed into Post communist system. It was radical communist under Mao. It has since gone long the other way. Your views are ridiculous. If China is communist how do you explain its rapid growth? That does not happen under communism!

[Olog-hai]

LOL! Proof by assertion. Never mind your repetitive argumentum ad lapidem where you are shown evidence out of communist literature that all of the moves Red China makes are in the Marxist playbook and summarily ignore it in favor of continuing the RINO/Democratic narrative about the PRC.

Lenin tried the radical path also, and when that was failing he came out with the New Economic Policy to at least repair sime of the damage. That clearly came from a re-read of the Manifesto and TPOC. Teng used the same playbook, which helped him further convince the US to let its guard down.

Since all you have are multiple logical fallacies on your side, I guess I will bid you a nice day . . . comrade 😉

[amnestynone]

This is so stupid. What happened when the soviets did the New Economic plan they were just waiting to start again. The current China has completely moved beyond the point of no return. There maybe some similarities as they de communize as when they were communizing. But, the idea that they are gong back is just ridiculous. Communism does not work and they know it. They would not go from absolute control to loosening the system if they were just going to go back to being the way they were. Communist do not decommunize like they are doing if they plan on returning. This is just so stupid.

[Olog-hai]

LOL, exactly the arguments the left uses. The PRC’s actions against Hong Kong say otherwise.

Stop ignoring history and facts, tovarishch. And stop ignoring me; I already acknowledged that communism is an imaginary state of being without definition and that Marxism is really a means to institute totalitarian socialism (same thing as state capitalism) by means of violent revolution.

[amnestynone]

Communism is not state capitalism. This obvious to anyone with half a brain that china has transitioned away from Communism and cannot go back as it is past the point of no return. What about their actions against Hong Kong? They feel they should reunite their country. I think Hong Kong should have the say but that does not mean that China is communist. Communism is not an imaginary state their are certain things that a communist society and economy does and does not do.

[Olog-hai]

I did not say that communism is state capitalism. Communism does not have a definition; are you saying it does? you seem to be attempting to formulate a description, which is why I ask. The only description the Manifesto offers is “an association in which the free development of each is the condition for the free development of all”, which to me is a madman’s word salad.

Red China cannot “transition away from” something that does not exist. However, all of their actions are straight out of the Marxist playbook (note the word “Marxism”; since communism doesn’t exist, it’s impossible for “Marxism” to be a synonym for communism, take note).

[amnestynone]

Communism may not have an exact definition but when it encourages business and people becoming rich with no intention of returning it is by no definition communist nor is it Marxist.