Nearly all COVID deaths in US are now among unvaccinated

Associated Press via Yahoo News ^ | 06/24/2021 | CARLA K. JOHNSON and MIKE STOBBE

[blackdog]

"Associated Press analysis of available government data"

Words have meaning no matter how Project Mockingbird and its variants spews out talking points.

[Antoninus]

Arkansas has averaged 2-5 deaths per day (7 day running average) for more than two months.

But, but, but...deaths have risen from 2 to 4. That's a 100% increase!!! /AP science

[RinaseaofDs]

This is pretty brazen. The CDC data indicates the exact opposite - deaths/infections are PRIMARILY among the vaccinated, not the unvaccinated.

[Pollard]

So, there are conflicting studies, reaching completely opposite conclusions.

For quite a few years now, we've had two opposite truths on most every subject, from basic biology of X vs Y chromosomes, right down to the meaning of words that had previously remain unchanged for decades or centuries. "Vaccine" for instance.

Tucker has an outlook now that whenever something seems so crazy it can't be true, he's reminded of Alex Jones with all the crazy things he's said having come true. In other words, if you're on the side of sane, mainstream thought, there's a good chance you'll be wrong. If you believe the outliers who go against the grain, even if it sounds like a crazy conspiracy theory, there's a pretty good chance you'll be right in the end.

Brave New World

[House Atreides]

“If you’ve had the virus, then you have antibodies against future infection. That’s the reasoning behind a vaccine created in a laboratory. How is it any different if it occurs naturally after Covid infection? Stop trying to coerce ppl into getting an experimental vaccine and MYOB.”
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[daniel1212]

" Nearly all COVID deaths in US are now among unvaccinated,"

And nearly all COVID deaths in US are now among the overweight, unfit Americans, meaning such, if infected, recover with (according to some studies) lasting immunity equal to or superior to the vaccinated, while not likely being infectious, and need not be vaccinated, with such have a greater risk of adverse reactions,

"In Arkansas, which has one of the lowest vaccination rates in the nation, with only about 33% of the population fully protected, cases, hospitalizations and deaths are rising."

And which has the 3rd or 4th highest rate of obesity - the leading comorbidity.

[daniel1212]

Sorry for the GI image rendering (why SVG versus JPG?):

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[MayflowerMadam]

“modeling suggests the nation will hit 1,000 deaths per day again next year.”

And modeling said America would have over 2 million deaths by Covid in early 2020.

[MayflowerMadam]

At a family reunion last week I got more details about my cousin who died a couple days after the “vaccine”. He was 77, had diabetes, leukemia, and a couple other issues. Good freakin’ lib from Manassas, VA, that he was, he and his wife ran and begged to get the shots. [sigh]

[Georgia Girl 2]

Short term studies are showing just the opposite. This is just propaganda because people are becoming resistant to getting the vaxx.

[Albion Wilde]

Funny; it’s just the opposite in Israel.

[daniel1212]

In the interest of accuracy of ammo, checked this out as one who opposes the unwise, counterproductive long-term universal restrictions, and found that the response is that,

The CDC didn’t change the PCR tests’ cycle thresholds for vaccinated people. The guidance cited in the article refers to genomic sequencing, which is used for identifying the virus’ lineage and variants. It isn’t used to test for the presence of infection. The CDC is still recording all vaccine breakthrough cases, not only the ones that led to hospitalization or death.

As evidence for its claim that the U.S. CDC is “lowering their CT value when testing samples from suspected ‘breakthrough infections’” to “decrease the number of ‘breakthrough infections’ being officially recorded”, the article cited this statement on the CDC website:

“For cases with a known RT-PCR cycle threshold (Ct) value, submit only specimens with Ct value ≤28 to CDC for sequencing. (Sequencing is not feasible with higher Ct values.)”

This is a grossly inaccurate interpretation of the CDC guidance. The guidance applies to samples sent for genomic sequencing, which is a technique used to obtain the genetic sequence of the virus. This technique allows scientists to determine the virus’ lineage and identify variants and provides scientists with important information on how the virus is evolving and how mutations change the way the virus behaves. This information in turn helps to guide public health measures and vaccine development.

As is evident from the statement, the CDC didn’t alter the cycle threshold value for the PCR test used to identify presence of infection. The statement is relevant to genomic sequencing, which is an additional test used on samples that already tested positive for SARS-CoV-2 by PCR. The reason why this guidance is in place is because genomic sequencing requires a relatively large amount of the virus’ genetic material in the sample. Therefore, a sample with only trace amounts of the virus’ genetic material, which would show a high Ct value, wouldn’t be suitable for sequencing.

Not sequencing a sample doesn’t change the fact that someone tested positive for COVID-19 by PCR, meaning that the person is infected, making them a COVID-19 case. Therefore, this CDC guidance has no influence on the number of COVID-19 cases recorded, as the article claimed.

Cases from vaccinated people are still being recorded, even if asymptomatic or mild

- https://healthfeedback.org/claimreview/pcr-tests-on-vaccinated-and-unvaccinated-people-are-evaluated-using-the-same-criteria-the-cdc-didnt-change-criteria-for-detecting-infection-in-vaccinated-people-as-alleged-in-off-guardian-a/

[daniel1212]

"Nearly all COVID-19 deaths in the U.S. now are in people who weren’t vaccinated, a staggering demonstration of how effective the shots have been and an indication that deaths per day — now down to under 300 — could be practically zero if everyone eligible got the vaccine. An Associated Press analysis of available government data from May shows that “breakthrough” infections in fully vaccinated people accounted for fewer than 1,200 of more than 853,000 COVID-19 hospitalizations. That’s about 0.1%. "

Given the broad criteria* the CDC provides for labeling a Covid case or death (even just an unexplained cough and living in a high risk community) then perhaps Covid is being ruled out in the case of vaccinated people.

In the absence of a more likely diagnosis:..

Clinical Criteria
• Any one of the following symptoms:
  • cough,
  • shortness of breath,
  • difficulty breathing,
  • new olfactory disorder,
  • new taste disorder

    Epidemiologic Linkage

    One or more of the following exposures in the prior 14 days:

    • Close contact** with a confirmed or probable case of COVID-19 disease;
    • Member of a risk cohort as defined by public health authorities during an outbreak.
    **Close contact is generally defined as being within 6 feet for at least 15 minutes.

    Probable

    • Meets clinical criteria AND epidemiologic linkage with no confirmatory laboratory testing performed for SARS-CoV-2.

[Jane Long]

“The CDC itself has not estimated what percentage of hospitalizations and deaths are in fully vaccinated people, citing limitations in the data”.

Exactly.

Don't fall for the left's propaganda.

Therefore....this AssPress article is heretofore labeled....

[Jane Long]

Funny; it’s just the opposite in Israel.

😉

[Jane Long]

Aren’t all MSM *news* pieces pretty much editorials?

[zeugma]

Apparently the propaganda machine has decided it’s OK to start talking about ‘deaths’ instead of ‘cases’ again. Fear! Fear! Fear!

Got to keep up the skeer.

[LilFarmer]

In Georgia, only 35% have been fully vaccinated and our cases continue to fall:

https://dph.georgia.gov/covid-19-daily-status-report

https://usafacts.org/visualizations/covid-vaccine-tracker-states/state/georgia

[SeekAndFind]

RE: Funny; it’s just the opposite in Israel.

These are the most important questions you need to know:

1. Are the people getting sick in Israel vaccinated or unvaccinated?

This is a real no-brainer. For instance, we know there is a Delta surge in Israel. But if you look closely, unvaccinated people are getting sick at nearly 30 times higher rates than vaccinated. I’m not sure if you can blame the vaccines.

2. What is the denominator?

There was an inflammatory article about Indonesian healthcare workers getting sick after a Sinovac jab with “dozens” getting hospitalized. What it leaves out is that over 5000 healthcare workers were vaccinated in that place. Were they all exposed? How many unvaccinated people got sick? What is “dozens?” Very sloppy work. If it is true that 5000 were exposed but 350 got sick, then that’s still over 90% effectiveness.

3. What is the vaccination rate in the country?

An article from a usually reliable publication had a headline saying that cases were surging in countries that had used the Chinese vaccine. Well there are surges in the UK, US, India, even Israel where they don’t use Chinese vaccines.

Going back to item 1, how many of those who got sick were actually vaccinated and fully vaccinated? Were there many deaths among those vaccinated?

Before concluding that a particular vaccine is or is not working against COVID-19 in a country, these are the most important questions we need to ask. Have they been answered satisfactorily?

[CodeToad]

All these numbers are nothing but political propaganda. Just a few weeks ago the number claimed was 65% of infected were vaccinated, but somehow, like magic, none are being infected now.