Posted on 06/22/2021 11:30:35 AM PDT by Capt. Tom
When the ships return to the seas will there be requirement for all vaccinated passengers or just 95% ??? Over in Cruise critic they have been beating up unvaxxed for weeks. Even threatening just because they didnt want to have to wear a mask. Then The Mods put up this notice
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New Policy: COVID-related Discussion
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LauraS
By LauraS
06/21/2021
Effective immediately, COVID-related discussion should be limited to actual policy on board ships (and other forms of travel) and its practical application. Discussion should NOT veer into opinion or debate.
Every one of us has experienced the unprecedented restrictions, disruptions and changes to our cruise travel, work, shopping, schooling, social interactions and so many other aspects of our lives since the global pandemic began in early 2020. Frankly, we have been inundated with news, information, mis-information, frustrations and opinions. We’ve heard them, we’ve shared them, we’ve argued about them.
Over the past few months, we have heard from many of you that the discussions, debates and arguments about the virus, distancing and masking policies, various politicians’ statements and actions have been overwhelming and divisive. Many topics have derailed or devolved into arguments. Cruise Critic understands the passion you all have – we have it too! — and we are confident that we’ve moderated with a light hand and most discussions have run their course. However, there simply are better places on the web to learn about — and debate — scientific, medical and political issues.
The good news is….we now have a great deal to look forward to! Cruise (and travel) is beginning to open up again and it is time to refocus on why we are here: our love of cruise! So, here are the specifics:
We will NOT welcome debate or opinion about medical, scientific, or political aspects of the pandemic. There are a few often repeated trigger items that won’t be allowed:
No statistics about infection rates,
no discussions about where the virus may have started,
no dialogue about individual rights,
no commenting about after-effects of vaccinations,
no debate about whether vaccinations or masking are effective,
no anti-vaxxer or pro-vaxxer comments of any kind,
no discussions about which governor or politician or news personality did or said what.
We will welcome information on COVID policies RELATED TO CRUISE. Things like:
vaccination policies issued by individual cruise lines, venues or destinations,
cleaning or distancing procedures in use, practical tips for cruisers or things they might need to know that are different from ports of call to embarkation ports are all valid topics.
official policies issued by cruise line, travel destinations, airlines, etc. regarding requirements for boarding or shore excursions can be shared. This information needs to be on-topic for the specific forum and thread where posted.
We understand that you may be passionate in your opinions on this topic and want to discuss or debate them, and appreciate your understanding that there are more appropriate places than the Cruise Critic Community to do that. If, however, you are here to talk about the most passionate of vacation travel — cruising — let’s get on with it!
Please note that the above is not all-inclusive and that Cruise Critic reserves the absolute right to reject any and all content, in our sole discretion, without notification to its author. All of our Community Guidelines are in effect. Any questions, comments or concerns regarding the above should be addressed to us at: community@cruisecritic.com using your email address of record. Please include your member name.
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This week something very funny happened. Nasty posts from the anti-mask and so called prova New Policy: COVID-related Discussion
×
LauraS
By LauraS
06/21/2021
Effective immediately, COVID-related discussion should be limited to actual policy on board ships (and other forms of travel) and its practical application. Discussion should NOT veer into opinion or debate.
Every one of us has experienced the unprecedented restrictions, disruptions and changes to our cruise travel, work, shopping, schooling, social interactions and so many other aspects of our lives since the global pandemic began in early 2020. Frankly, we have been inundated with news, information, mis-information, frustrations and opinions. We’ve heard them, we’ve shared them, we’ve argued about them.
Over the past few months, we have heard from many of you that the discussions, debates and arguments about the virus, distancing and masking policies, various politicians’ statements and actions have been overwhelming and divisive. Many topics have derailed or devolved into arguments. Cruise Critic understands the passion you all have – we have it too! — and we are confident that we’ve moderated with a light hand and most discussions have run their course. However, there simply are better places on the web to learn about — and debate — scientific, medical and political issues.
The good news is….we now have a great deal to look forward to! Cruise (and travel) is beginning to open up again and it is time to refocus on why we are here: our love of cruise! So, here are the specifics:
We will NOT welcome debate or opinion about medical, scientific, or political aspects of the pandemic. There are a few often repeated trigger items that won’t be allowed:
No statistics about infection rates,
no discussions about where the virus may have started,
no dialogue about individual rights,
no commenting about after-effects of vaccinations,
no debate about whether vaccinations or masking are effective,
no anti-vaxxer or pro-vaxxer comments of any kind,
no discussions about which governor or politician or news personality did or said what.
We will welcome information on COVID policies RELATED TO CRUISE. Things like:
vaccination policies issued by individual cruise lines, venues or destinations,
cleaning or distancing procedures in use, practical tips for cruisers or things they might need to know that are different from ports of call to embarkation ports are all valid topics.
official policies issued by cruise line, travel destinations, airlines, etc. regarding requirements for boarding or shore excursions can be shared. This information needs to be on-topic for the specific forum and thread where posted.
We understand that you may be passionate in your opinions on this topic and want to discuss or debate them, and appreciate your understanding that there are more appropriate places than the Cruise Critic Community to do that. If, however, you are here to talk about the most passionate of vacation travel — cruising — let’s get on with it!
Please note that the above is not all-inclusive and that Cruise Critic reserves the absolute right to reject any and all content, in our sole discretion, without notification to its author. All of our Community Guidelines are in effect. Any questions, comments or concerns regarding the above should be addressed to us at: community@cruisecritic.com using your email address of record. Please include your member name.
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This week something very funny happened. Nasty posts from the anti-mask vaxxed crowd are not deleted but any slightly suspicious or even innocent posts from other people are. It appears that Cruise Critic is very pro-active when it comes to coercing people to get vaccinated but not as pro-choice and all inclusive as they claim. They are as political as they claim we are not to be.
Nothing has changed except the deletion of posts that dont readily agree with those of the vaxxed posters, that the unvaxxed are the enemy etc
Oh I accidently posted that twice
That's another reason I believe the Cruise lines won't get back to 2018-19 economics.
The Cruise Lines have aggravated to many potential cruisers, by voluntarily moving the goal posts, and ass kissing our CDC to pacify their enemy the CDC.
I personally know an elderly couple that will do a river cruise in the USA because everybody has to be vaccinated ,but they will not do any other cruise if it has unvaccinated people onboard. I sense a lot of elderly cruisers feel that way.
So I think the Cruise Lines can get hit both ways on these so-called vaccine requirements.
In post #2 rktman touches on this when he posts: "As long as they insist on segregating vaxxers(certified of course) and anti-vaxxers(?)[no cert or don’t want to show it], it may be a while." -Tom
Yes you may be right...
Im still waiting to hear if I get to cruise. ...
Carnival has been sending out EMails to those on July cruises...denials or acceptance...they have been denying infants and toddlers probably because of the mask thing...
Right now I have 51 days and a wake up till my cruise...For the past 16 months I couldnt get lower than 60 days before cancellations...
If I get denied I get all of my money back...
Titanic vs The Oasis Class
https://malcolmoliver.wordpress.com/titanic-vs-oasis-of-the-seas/
Size of different cruise ships
https://boards.cruisecritic.com.au/topic/1656022-size-comparison-pictures/
Size difference of the Titanic vs Oasis
https://external-preview.redd.it/VzAmzFCMP0iooCL5hGDiUpKWikt5yWS9ZhIx2pCzSNk.jpg?width=960&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=bf331c02e5f96f2384ad584c9bb38ce865538de0
To continue the fun:
The Princess was 168M - Titanic was 269M so the Princess was 60% or so of Titanic - its prow would apx. be at the 4th smokestack of the Titanic.
Here is another interesting pic with the Maasdam and the OASIS: 
The Maasdam is 220M so the Princess would have been 75% of its size.
Princess Cruises back then offered luxury and elegance. Carnival blew that up.
Can you imagine the inconvenience of having a false positive on yourself or a traveling companion in the USA or overseas? - Tom
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