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Windows 11 leak reveals new UI, Start menu, and more451The next version of Windows has leaked online
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Posted on 06/16/2021 9:56:27 AM PDT by mylife

Microsoft’s upcoming Windows 11 operating system has leaked online today. After screenshots were first published at Chinese site Baidu, the entire Windows 11 OS has appeared online, complete with a new user interface, Start menu, and lots more.

The new Windows 11 user interface and Start menu look very similar to what was originally found in Windows 10X. Microsoft had been simplifying Windows for dual-screen devices, before canceling this project in favor of Windows 11. Visually, the biggest changes you’ll notice can be found along the taskbar. Microsoft has centered the app icons here, cleaned up the tray area, and included a new Start button and menu.

This updated Start menu is a simplified version of what currently exists in Windows 10, without Live Tiles. It includes pinned apps, recent files, and the ability to quickly shut down or restart Windows 11 devices. It’s really a lot more simplified than what exists in Windows 10 today.

If you don’t want the app icons and Start menu centered, there’s an option to move them all back to the left-hand side. Coupled with the dark mode that’s also available, and Windows 11 starts to look like a more refined version of Windows 10 than something dramatically new.

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To: Pollard

I also like to keep it minimum, I hate bloatware. But, I love the total control that KDE gives (I don’t do the flashy stuff either ;)).

Have tried Neon, Manjaro, and Fedora... Neon was too artificial, Manjaro was on a different planet (Arch), and Fedora was unpredictable (lots of apps in beta testing/top of tech).

So, I went back to Kubuntu.

I have read that there is a 3rd RHL coming out that is more inline with more stable updates (than Fedora) and almost a mirror of RedHat. I may mess with it in the future, when it is proven more stable.


101 posted on 06/16/2021 5:19:29 PM PDT by Bikkuri (If you're conservative, you're an "extremist." If you're liberal, you're an "activist.")
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To: Bikkuri

thanks, i will definitely check that out


102 posted on 06/16/2021 5:33:40 PM PDT by Bob434
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To: Bikkuri

yeah, i tried installing a special ubuntu with cinnamon, and it worked ok for a bit, then it acted weird- so i went back to straight mint cinnamon


103 posted on 06/16/2021 5:34:31 PM PDT by Bob434
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To: Bikkuri

yeah i got the notes thing but i need somethign that will appear on desktop at assigned day/time to remind me- if i just write an note on the desktop, I’ll just forget to look at it unfortunately


104 posted on 06/16/2021 5:36:09 PM PDT by Bob434
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To: Bikkuri

i do like cinnamon, but I’ll check out kubuntu from a disk, see how it looks and feels- i don’t really care for straight ubuntu- mybe the kubuntu will feel different-


105 posted on 06/16/2021 5:37:25 PM PDT by Bob434
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To: Bob434
"I’ll check out kubuntu from a disk"


The biggest difference is that you get control of your computer that the other DEs don't give you. That is why Cinnamon and Mate were so frustrating for me :P
106 posted on 06/16/2021 6:32:59 PM PDT by Bikkuri (If you're conservative, you're an "extremist." If you're liberal, you're an "activist.")
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To: Bikkuri

bootrec is still there. Rarely a problem anymore though...


107 posted on 06/16/2021 8:01:44 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (A Psalm in napalm...)
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To: Bikkuri

I use Mate w/Compiz on Fedora(now v.34) and RaspiOS. It works for me.
Set Compiz to switch desktops by moving mouse to edge of screen and clicking. Or grab the top of the screen and twirl the desktops. Simply grab a window and drag it to a different desktop. Years ago started using such configs and it is hard to live without them (for me, anyway).
Cheers!


108 posted on 06/17/2021 5:25:26 AM PDT by Montana_Sam (Truth lives.)
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To: Bob434
ToDoList is available the Linux Mint software manager. Do a search. It does install some KDE software too.

Good Hunting... from Varmint Al

109 posted on 06/17/2021 9:01:25 AM PDT by Varmint Al
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To: Varmint Al

Thanks Varmint. I did a to do list search and came up with something similar but with another word in front of ‘to do, it was pretty big, almost a gig. I’ll try a search with todolist all as one word, see what comes up. Thanks


110 posted on 06/17/2021 9:13:37 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: Bob434
It is "OpenTodoList" and yes, it is large. The large files are the KDE software that needs to be installed.

Good Hunting... from Varmint Al

111 posted on 06/17/2021 10:22:42 AM PDT by Varmint Al
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To: Varmint Al

Yup- that was it- I’ll give it another try-


112 posted on 06/17/2021 9:21:57 PM PDT by Bob434
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To: dayglored

I know this is an old thread but I had a thought. Could 11 be a hybrid dayglored? Planting the seeds of Linux in Windows for future expansion? Just wanted to pick your brain on this possibility. Probably on the wrong track but it was a curious thought.


113 posted on 06/20/2021 6:46:57 AM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: Openurmind
> Could 11 be a hybrid dayglored? Planting the seeds of Linux in Windows for future expansion?

I've long thought that Windows ought to be refactored the way pre-OS-X MacOS was refactored into OS-X, that is, keep the GUI concepts but use an *IX operating system as the foundation. Apple used BSD Unix, specifically the one (FreeBSD) that had been adapted into NeXTStep.

So if Microsoft was smart, they would ditch the deeply flawed NT codebase, and put the Windows 7 era GUI over a Linux foundation. I even thought they might do that for Windows 11, but it does not appear that they are far enough along to do that.

I continue to hold hope that they wise up eventually.

114 posted on 06/20/2021 8:06:31 AM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: dayglored

Thank you for sharing! I would like to see a GUI Win 7 theme for Cinnamon myself. But no one has made one yet. They have them that dresses it up like XP and Win 10, but not Win 7. If I had extra time... :)


115 posted on 06/20/2021 8:51:42 AM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: Openurmind
> ...a GUI Win 7 theme for Cinnamon...

Yeah, although that's just "window dressing". A Windows-like theme for Linux is visually appealing, but what you need is actual support for the bazillions of Windows programs that call the incredibly complex Windows/NT/NTFS APIs. Microsoft's been doing the proprietary vendor lock-in schtick since the early days of MS-DOS, and they're still in that same mindset.

To successfully blend Windows and Linux, they'll have to develop an API shim over the Linux kernel, so that traditional Windows-only programs can call it. It couldn't possibly cover every single system call, much less mimic all the undocumented behaviors. So a lot of Windows-only programs will have to adapt themselves.

The current Linux integration in Windows is in the other direction -- making the Linux kernel run over the Windows system calls. That's a necessary desperation move, because MS watched in horror as the software development world embraced Linux as the development platform of choice.

116 posted on 06/20/2021 10:58:07 AM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: dayglored

I understand. And the unfortunate thing is that we are down to just a few programs folks feel they “just can’t live without” that cannot be replaced by a Linux alternative. Other than games...

There are only a very few hold outs who have not ported to Linux yet. MS is probably paying them not to. The main thing though is user laziness. No one wants to take the time and effort to learn how to use a similar alternative.

My thought with the Win 7 window dressing was that it would be easier for first time users to feel comfortable with Linux from the get go. Most do not care how the engine works, they just care about the looks and feel of it being different.

Had one user on here say they didn’t like Mint because of the log in chime. So they threw the baby out with the bathwater over something that petty. But that is the common pickiness. :)


117 posted on 06/20/2021 12:05:29 PM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: Openurmind
> Had one user on here say they didn’t like Mint because of the log in chime.

LOL I've turned them all off for years -- Mac, Windows, Linux, all of 'em.

118 posted on 06/20/2021 2:01:57 PM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: dayglored

Lol, cool thing about Linux is you can also just go and change out the sound file with something else if you like. :)


119 posted on 06/20/2021 2:11:03 PM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: Openurmind

Actually you could do that in Windows, at least as of a couple versions ago. But you really had to dig around to find where to do it.


120 posted on 06/20/2021 3:23:30 PM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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