Posted on 06/10/2021 8:51:24 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
>> I never said it’s okay. I said it’s common and typically nothing to worry about.
But it is something not to be dismissed.
If you expect to be taken seriously, you should be giving equal weight to the side-effects.
Those under 40 YO have virtually no SARS mortality concerns.
Of course those cases should be fully investigated and monitored. Of the 285 confirmed cases of myocarditis following vaccination, 270 have already fully recovered and 15 remain in progress. Myocarditis has the potential to become serious in some situations, but it's not some horrible woodchipper of human souls. It's inflammation. Usually happens because the body's immune response causes some damage to healthy tissue. Usually resolves quickly. Let's make sure that happens here.
"If you expect to be taken seriously, you should be giving equal weight to the side-effects."
I have, beginning with the early (but rare) reports of anaphylaxis with Pfizer and Moderna. Suggested that people with a history of severe allergic reaction (e.g. people who carry an EpiPen with them everywhere they go) avoid those vaccines in favor of others coming on the market (sadly, Novavax hasn't made it). And when the blood clot reports with J&J happened, I supported the CDC decision to suggest a pause during investigation. The investigation demonstrated that serious events related to that were rare and isolated to a specific cohort. They too should be given fair warning of the potential risks involved.
I absolutely support people making their own informed decisions. But that information requires context. Giving people pieces of information without context in order to sway their decision is manipulative, dishonest, and wrong.
Yes. There was a soldier in my National Guard battalion, who died from a heart attack during his 2-mile PT test run. 18 years old and no vaccinations, illnesses or conditions beforehand. He appeared to be like the rest of us: in perfect health. The sometimes strenuous physical requirements had that affect on a few rare individuals.
Based on these articles the past couple months, the Moderna vaccine seems slightly but consistently safer than the Pfizer vaccine. Adjusted for market share though, which is actually the safest? This subject is so politicized, the important facts are hard to discern.
Total vaccine doses administered in the U.S. as of the day before yesterday: 305,687,618. That, divided by 800 would be...
1 out of 382,109, much better chance than getting the virus, even for a young person.
Or fully vaccinated only, 141,583,252 divided by 800.
1 out of 176,979.
You would want to go back to the beginning to really assess that, since the start had people with known severe allergies taking both and experiencing anaphylaxis. Now, all of them made full recoveries and that’s usually treated with a shot of epinephrine, but it’s still a scary thing. Since the new guidance calls out excluding those with a known history of severe allergies to medicines, those already rare events (about 1 in 400,000 for Moderna and 1 in 1,000,000 for Pfizer as I recall from memory) became exceedingly rare.
Still, even in the early days, that 1 in 400,000 comes to 0.00025%. Looked at another way, the average person meets roughly 80,000 people over the course of their entire lives. If every single person you have ever met - or will ever meet - all got Moderna, there’s only a 1 in 5 chance ANY of them would experience a severe side effect. The myocarditis described here is extremely common. People get it when they catch a cold or have the flu. Plenty of other things can cause it too. Most of those cases show no symptoms at all or are so mild you’d barely notice anything. And nearly all resolve on their own. Most cases happen in children anyway.
Of the 285 confirmed cases of myocarditis after vaccination, 270 have already fully resolved with complete recovery. The other 15 are in progress. The data available today says that unless you have a history of severe allergic reactions, both Pfizer and Modera are very safe. J&J is also safe with the caveat that it’s ever so slightly less safe if you’re a woman who has periods (i.e. you’re between roughly 12 and 50). But whereas those clots appear in roughly 1 in 400,000 women, certain hormonal birth control pills have been shown to product clots in about 1 in 1,000 women. My pro-life beliefs obligate me to prefer the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines, since they didn’t use fetal stem cells in any part of their production creation or testing (independent third party confirmatory testing required by the FDA did, but the products had already been produced, bottled, frozen, and ready for shipment by then). J&J used fetal stem cells at every step of the process to develop and test their vaccine. But as for safety? They’re all quite safe.
I do not think Yeardon's statement was limited to just children who are basically at no risk from the virus. The vaccines are 50xs more likely to cause death than the virus, period.
He also stated that the vaccines have not demonstrated their effectiveness, the PCR testing being so unreliable due to false positives.
He says the vaccines are essentially unnecessary. There are 4 or 5 commonly available therapeutics that are safe and effective.
CDC Concealed Death Certificates.
Running a medical experiment on unwilling subjects without testing them beforehand to see if they have conditions that would adversely react to a fractional dose of the first injection is not only manipulative, dishonest, and wrong - it's criminal.
As a former recreational distance runner (until a knee went arthritic on me), mile to marathon, it does indeed put stress on the heart. But that stress strengthens the heart, which is why I survived my first two heart attacks. I died on the b'ball court in late November of 2018, but by the Grace of God and great medical attention was revived in time, and fitted with a defibrillator/pacemaker. The defib worked perfectly in two episodes I had recently. I am scheduled for a cardiac ablation next month, hopefully back on the court by fall. God has been better to me than I deserve.
>> But that stress strengthens the heart, which is why I survived my first two heart attacks.
No doubt. Guessing you have congenital heart disease? Glad to know you’ve survived.
Are you following any particular dietary plan?
With respect to the so-called vaccines, your criteria for acceptability of the side-effects seems to center around survivability and recovery. I see that as an unwelcome risk with a fortunate outcome.
Yes, information requires context. And good to know you’re open-minded to the informed decisions not congruent with your vax evangelism.
I challenge you to raise any aspect of the vax agenda that is questionable.
Interesting keywords to examine.
Are you following any particular dietary plan?
If congenital it was never diagnosed prior to the first attack at age 68, and didn't interfere with my running (finished Boston under 3 hours at 40) and playing ball 2-4 times a week for over 30 years.
As for diet, not as much as I should, other than less salt.
I wouldn’t call it the “vax agenda”, but personally if my kids were under 12, I would absolutely hold off for a while before giving them these vaccines. I don’t see a clearly positive risk/reward trade-off there at this point. A lot of doctors are seeing that line closer to mid-teens (which is typically where complications begin to manifest), while some others see that line further up.
In other words, I’d be in no hurry to vaccinate a 5 year old at this point. Not unless evidence emerges showing that they suffer any significant consequences of infection.
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