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Famous Actor Regrets How He Raised His Baby Boomer Kids (5 minute YOUTUBE video)
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Posted on 06/08/2021 11:20:02 AM PDT by ransomnote

 
 
Autogenerated transcript below for those who don't want to watch the video (lacks punctuation, sometimes provides incorrect words)
 
I think that I and I assume millions of others of my generation
wanted some of the things that we did for our children
and our wives and ourselves.
Was explained by the fact that we were products of
what is called the depression. Sadly, they say
many young people today don't even know what that term means.
It means that everybody was poor.
Statistically almost everybody was poor for about 10 years.
Starting with the stock market crush and got worse after that.
And when you're really poor for a long time
you're a very different human being
than when you're middle class or rich.
At one point,
if they got only one point.
I ran away from home. I was 16 at the time.
I bummed around the country for a few weeks.
And I literally faced severe hunger.
I had seven dollars, they lasted exactly seven days.
After that, no money
and pretty quickly that converts into no food.
If you knew where there was a soup kitchen,
I guess you could go there, but
I didn't know about that, I was on the road
I didn't know where I was much less where other things were.
I would beg. Very quickly, you turn into a beggar.
You might think you would never do that, but you're wrong.
All you have to do is get hungry enough and you
beg your brains out.
It's the conventional dialogue that you saw on movies.
Hey Mark can you spare a dime or you know,
you got a quarter you're not using? I could use it.
And by large, you get ignored or you get contempt.
The only people who ever treated me cool,
not the only people, but almost
the only people who ever treated me kindly
were the Mexican Americans
I ran into in the South Western states.
One guy I remembered opened his own pockets
showed me they were empty and he shrugged.
I like that we had a nice moment together
because he was saying, I'm no better off than you are.
Another man said, wait Sinor and he went into a little
hovel railey and came out with a tortilla full of beans.
I loved him for that.
And there was a nice attitude
when I asked a Mexican
if he had anything that I could eat or
money to buy it with or whatever.
My fellow Anglos by a large treated me coldly and rudely.
I ate garbage at one point.
You will do that too and you'll thank the universe for the garbage.
Boy what a thrill, here I found a can with some beans in it.
I scooped out the ants,
blew them away
and then I ate the nine or ten beans I found there.
Boy was I happy to find those beans.
I was eating garbage and thrilled to do it.
So, that's very different from the life that we know
and since some of us had been through that,
that we wanted to be sure
that our children never went through that.
So, we tried to build up the little bank accounts and
get a car for the wife and a car for us.
Wash the you know, cars ourselves
with the horse with the kids.
There are many sweet beautiful aspects of that.
The best scene of all really is family life.
Why our society insist on making heroes men or women
out of people who can't stay married and have had 19 women.
God is that a stupid reversion of values.
Having one wife, staying married to her
that's what we're supposed to do.
It works out better with the kids.
But the American home began to fall apart I think seriously
partly because of effects of world war two in the 1950's.
That's when the divorce explosion as it's called began.
As to what I wanted for my kids there was on one side
the economic security
that they would have enough cloths,
enough food, and roof over their head so that you know,
be able to go to school, and have a bike and all those simple things.
Unfortunately,
well, I succeed in that
in regard for them.
I would not grade myself terribly high as a father might.
My sons are kind enough
to say complimentary things about me as a father,
but I was very far from satisfied
with myself as I look back at my role
in that particular drama.
I have been arguing ever since that.
Our culture and society is very good at training people.
We train them to pull teeth, to repair automobiles,
to paint fences, to do brain surgery.
We give them no training literally
and the two most important roles
they will ever be called upon to play
marriage partner and parent
and that you're just thrown into the water, hope you can swim.
Oh, I'm sorry you're getting divorced,
well, your children are sick.
And it's happening now in
probably half the cases of marriage in this country.
It's an ongoing tragedy.
I can see now that
anybody and certainly myself included, since I'm a body
need training of
just a book anything, a magazine article,
a priest talking to you on a park
be it something, we needed to be told
how to be a father for the man
and how to be a husband.
Nobody ever explained anything to me.
I hadn't seen any example of my own life.
My father died when I was an infant.
So, there was no example
and I simply never learned it.
So, I was finally able to piece myself together
and be a good father to my fourth son,
but I don't think I was that great a father.
I love my three sons, the first three
dearly, still do, we get along great.
But
I thought all you had to do was love them,
occasionally mention that fact to them,
give them a hug once in a while after they you know,
at least up to the age of seven or eight
and that was basically all there was to it. And boy was I wrong.
You have to spend much time with them.
You probably have noticed
that either in the 60's or a 1,000 years from now or last night,
the sons of public figures, sons and daughters of public figures
have a decided disadvantage,
whether those public figures are presidents
or senators or movie actors or rock stars.
The reason is very simple, daddy is on the road a lot.
He's out campaigning for office.
He's doing a concert in Nashville.
And suddenly he looks over his shoulder and
oh, junior is on dope.
Well, maybe the fact that I didn't see him that much
from two to fourteen had something to do with that.
You bet it did.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: babyboomers; fatherhood; fathersday; generations; steveallen; wordsofwisdom
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1 posted on 06/08/2021 11:20:02 AM PDT by ransomnote
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To: ransomnote

Oh, okay. It’s Steve Allen. More of a comedian than an actor really...


2 posted on 06/08/2021 11:26:59 AM PDT by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: GOP_Party_Animal

Who’s been dead for 20 years.


3 posted on 06/08/2021 11:28:57 AM PDT by xp38
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To: xp38

Yeah, I’d forgotten about him. Great interview though.


4 posted on 06/08/2021 11:35:16 AM PDT by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: ransomnote

I recall one of his sons was involved with the Children of God or something similar.


5 posted on 06/08/2021 11:45:58 AM PDT by dainbramaged ( Your friends might get me in a rush, but not before I make your head into a canoe.)
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To: xp38

Words of wisdom never grow old.

You can read much of what Allen says here in Proverbs.


6 posted on 06/08/2021 11:49:48 AM PDT by miserare ( Respect for life--life of all kinds-- is the first principle of civilization.~~A. Schweitzer.)
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To: ransomnote; GOP_Party_Animal; miserare
I am among the first of the Baby Boomers, graduating high school in 1964, and consider the Millennials/Snowflakes a product of the failed attempt at maturity by the most popular and influential part of my generation. The below essay explains my position.

Celebrating the Woodstock concert that began August 15, 1969 highlights the worst generation this country produced until it formed breeding pairs. This Baby Boomer vision ignored those qualities which made the United States the Arsenal of Democracy. Their parents were the Greatest Generation, but too few offspring looked to emulate the noble character traits that saw their parents through the Depression and WW II.

These same parents were responsible to the extent they applied the misguided teachings of Dr. Spock. His definition of common sense could not balance love and affection with standards for behavior, self-control, and respect. For too many parents, common sense meant providing every advantage they had missed. In the process of catering to children’s feelings and preferences, they raised defiant, narcissistic offspring who viewed gratification as a right. Rather than examples to emulate, parents were merely vending machines required to fulfill material desires during a time of unimagined plenty.

These Boomers grew up with an unprecedented focus on self. With them the divorce rate first exceeded the marriage rate, and there was first enacted a Federal Support Enforcement program to track deadbeat dads. Prior to the 60’s, syphilis and gonorrhea were the widely known venereal diseases, but the virulent strains exploded until only professionals could keep track.

This generation achieved self-actualization through moral exhibitionism and militant self-absorption. These Boomers adopted civil rights as their signature cause once the Civil Rights Act of 1964 became law and expressed a popular virtue. This law was enacted just as the first Boomers graduated from high school, and therefore provided them numerous opportunities to express costless compassion. The generations, which achieved maturity in the 30’s, 40’s, and 50’s, were those that triumphed for human rights against formidable opposition.

The Vietnam War gave the Baby Boomer generation a chance to sacrifice in a noble cause. Because here a small country (including ethnic Chinese, Catholic Vietnamese and others fleeing Communism), and newly free from colonial rule, sought United States help in establishing self-rule and the means of self-defense against a totalitarian neighbor (Tonkinese) bent on conquest. Instead, many chose to distance themselves from those adult realities by calling this fight an immoral war, and thereby implying that they would be the first to volunteer for a moral war, which of course is an oxymoron.

The WW II veterans who were their fathers and grandfathers, related to these children through reticence or stories that service can only be a duty. Instead of recognizing their turn had come, the Woodstock children sought safety by choosing to regard the war as an unjust, barbaric imposition. Jane Fonda and John Kerry were there to affirm this delusion by leading the swarm which regarded those who served as lunatic, drug addicted, baby killing, fascist pigs. Through their popularity and self-veneration, they were able to subject those who did serve to a comprehensive negative mythology.

When the Woodstock generation obtained positions of power, they sought policies of moral diversity/perversity and material comfort to transform the country into just another Gulag of apostasy, greed, and dependency. As they look to retirement, Boomers demand continuation of unsustainable entitlements in a manner freeing them from financial worries, from any need to care for their neighbors, and from facing the specter of national bankruptcy.

Worse than their simple existence is that they begat through multi-generational psychological incest a legacy of ideologically mutant children and grandchildren. These Woodstock offspring have become popularly known as the “Snowflakes” of present times. These descendants are contra-educated to abhor the Constitution, the virtuous and valorous founding of our country, and classical liberal principles found in values of the Enlightenment. They are perpetual children; are without essential humanity. They are empty, ignorant, feckless, emotional, overactive, and under challenged.

It seems to me all suffer from SISD or Self-Induced Stress Disorder.

The worst generation in American history still refuses to grow up. https://spectator.org/278662-2/?utm_source=American+Spectator+Emails&utm_campaign=dc1d0007f3-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2017_03_15&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_797a38d487-dc1d0007f3-104520165

Benjamin Spock https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Spock

HOW DR. SPOCK DESTROYED AMERICA http://www.wnd.com/2009/01/87179/

The Case Against Liberal Compassion https://imprimis.hillsdale.edu/the-case-against-liberal-compassion/

Your Help is Needed - Consider Sponsoring a Millennial Today https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGvrmltfMrA

7 posted on 06/08/2021 11:58:43 AM PDT by Retain Mike ( Sat Cong)
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To: miserare

He was funny and also wise over the years. He also pretty much founded The Tonight Show and the talk show format.


8 posted on 06/08/2021 12:03:25 PM PDT by xp38
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To: ransomnote

I didn’t even think he was still with us.


9 posted on 06/08/2021 12:03:35 PM PDT by carriage_hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit..)
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To: carriage_hill

He died in 2000. His “man on the street” schtick was funny.


10 posted on 06/08/2021 12:09:03 PM PDT by dainbramaged ( Your friends might get me in a rush, but not before I make your head into a canoe.)
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To: Retain Mike

Ultimately, I think the problem is that every generation wants their kids to “have it better” than they did. Well intentioned, but unsustainable. The Spartans probably had a better system. Just make every generation go through The Ordeal.


11 posted on 06/08/2021 12:27:22 PM PDT by beef (The Chinese have a little secret—diversity is _not_ a strength.)
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To: ransomnote

I’d call him a humorist.

Funny with wisdom and insight.


12 posted on 06/08/2021 12:37:03 PM PDT by UnwashedPeasant (Trump is the last legally elected U.S. President.)
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To: Retain Mike
Their parents were the Greatest Generation, but too few offspring looked to emulate the noble character traits that saw their parents through the Depression and WW II.

Like electing FDR FOUR times.

Or perhaps you are referring to their electing LBJ?

Face it, the boomers were screwed over by the Most Commie Generation.

When they got to collage the MCG continued to pour poison all over them.

Despite their hard work and conservatism they got blamed for all the Socialist and out right communist choices the MCG made. They paid for MCG programs with their own blood and treasure.

Now they are growing old.

They are being told that they system they never set up but always paid into will not be there for them.

And that they are selfish for even thinking it could be.

This is the system MCG set up, never paid into, drew out of and spent with reckless abandon to keep themselves in power.

Gee, Thanks.

Noble character traits my foot.

13 posted on 06/08/2021 12:43:58 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione. (I'm not interested in your dopey religious cult.))
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To: beef
The Spartans probably had a better system.

Until you get down to under a thousand people and the enemy is at your gates?

Not so much. There is a reason those sodomites are not around any longer.

14 posted on 06/08/2021 12:46:05 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione. (I'm not interested in your dopey religious cult.))
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

I never said all their character traits were noble. The majority of Baby Boomers chose the valleys instead of the peaks; close poorly instead of well.


15 posted on 06/08/2021 1:11:32 PM PDT by Retain Mike ( Sat Cong)
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To: ransomnote

Wise words from a father who knows regret for his mistakes with his children. I am a mother who knows that sort of regret. Didn’t have the wealth he did, but oh, how painful it is to now see clearly the mistakes made, that have caused real problems in my childrens’ lives.


16 posted on 06/08/2021 1:11:56 PM PDT by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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To: ransomnote

there is too much dumbth in the world


17 posted on 06/08/2021 1:40:10 PM PDT by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: Retain Mike
I am among the first of the Baby Boomers, graduating high school in 1964, and consider the Millennials/Snowflakes a product of the failed attempt at maturity by the most popular and influential part of my generation. The below essay explains my position.

You indict the Greatest Generation for raising Baby Boomers, indict Baby Boomers for raising "Woodstock offspring" millennials, then say they all suffer from "Self-Induced Stress Disorder."

Your Humanity Sųx screed does not offer a position any more than an opinion of broccoli would.   A huge percentage of Baby Boomers abhor Jane Fonda and John Kerry.   Your claim that is a generic trait of Baby Boomers is not true at all.

Steve Allen was worth hearing from.

18 posted on 06/08/2021 3:34:18 PM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken )
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To: Retain Mike

You must not have read what Allen said. You should have before you wrote your long line of crap. He said not a word about “Boomers.” That was a headline something got out of thin air.

As he mentioned:

“And boy was I wrong.
You have to spend much time with them.
You probably have noticed
that either in the 60’s or a 1,000 years from now or last night...”

He says a father has to spend time with their kids.

And, Boomers are not the first generation of humans that sinned, that were selfish. Have you noticed your surroundings lately, have you read history?


19 posted on 06/08/2021 3:53:41 PM PDT by odawg
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To: ransomnote

Check out Meeting of Minds on youtube. I ate it up in home school.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKRxZSOqAYw

Or this

(could be the start of something big):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05pU6l4PEJw

Appears to have been performed by Allen and his guests in a single take.

He wrote the song.


20 posted on 06/08/2021 7:25:21 PM PDT by Buttons12 ( )
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