Posted on 06/06/2021 12:30:45 PM PDT by ransomnote
I understand the CDC will reject this estimate and declare it hyperbole. If the CDC wishes to replace estimates with data, it can update VAERS with all records it has received. Further, the CDC can open communications channels to all those who are having problems filing their Adverse Event Reports with the CDC.
I have often heard it said on the forum that the initial "vaccinations" administered in December and January are likely heavily weighted with reports of deaths due to the frailest, elderly having been prioritized for early vaccination. To them I say, PROVE IT. We need not exclusively accept and consider theories which protect the 'good name' of the experimental gene therapies.
I know the frailest were vaccinated first. The vaccine was supposed to protect them. I've been concerned by anecdotal information steadily relayed by nursing homes reporting significant numbers of residents harmed by these 'vaccinations.'
The following linked thread featuring a moving, first-hand acount provided by a Whistleblower working in nursing care facilities. In it, the CNA begged the public to stop the use of 'vaccines' as his patients were 'dropping like flies.' He described the excuses given for the untimely deaths.
We need proof - not assertions about the circle of life or statements stating, "Well he was old...so...." If the vaccines are not safe for the elderly - then stop administering them.
I've had vax pushers point out to me unusual vaccinations as if they explain away record numbers of deaths (e.g., vaccinations of elderly people in hospice care, the death of a patient 99 years of age who, when vaccinated had not eaten in a week.) A troll breezily asked me for the numeric estimate for the demographic containing 99 year olds who hadn't eaten in a week.
THIS IS NOT A GAME OF STRATEGY. Vaccinating people in hospice or those unable or unwilling to eat should not be policy in the first place. Their likely suffering at the hands of the vaccinators should not be used as fodder to refute concerns regarding 'vaccine' safety!
Someone needs to explain charts like this one, which show that reports of death following Covid-19 vaccinations dwarf those of all other vaccines in the 30 years VAERS has been in use. (Reports of Deaths published to VAERS now exceed 5000).
Over and over I've read reports in VAERS in which the briefest summary I can provide for many of the elderly is, "He was fine until he got the vaccine..." The numbers and discussions often orbit the reports of deaths, but there are also losses to quality of life that bear investigation (strokes, heart attacks, paralysis etc.)
I'm not going to assume whatever explanation best protects Pfizer is the best answer to explain away the 2000 deaths reported following the first 36 million doses of the 'vaccines'.
PING
Thanks for posting.
In before the FFRoctorQuackters.
Arizona Resident Marty Logan Details How His Mother DIED FROM THE JAB“The medical examiners did not want to do an autopsy, they wanted to write COVID on it. We said ‘No’. When we find the death certificate and it says on here ‘Adult failure to thrive, cardiac failure’. Well, I have an autopsy right here that says there was no cardiac failure. It says there was no heart attack. There was no stroke. There was no aneurysm.
We then sent the brain tissues out to a neuro specialist. Here are the final autopsy results: She had a massive and rapid liver failure. I asked the doctor “what was it like in her final moments when she went out?”.
When she died she had a shortness of breath, which felt like she was being choked and someone had their hand wrapped around their neck.
Here is the VAERS report that the pathologist sent to the FDA last week:
The pathologist STATES that it was an adverse reaction to the vaccine. It was the Moderna vaccine. My mom tested negative for covid on January 31. She received the COVID vaccine on February 16. I had dinner with her that night. we had onion rings, we had a margarita, she was fine. She dropped dead the next day. These are the facts. Knowledge is power. make up your own mind.”
Okay so 2000/36 million= 1 in 18,000 or 0.005%.
Still much lower than 1.6% case fatality rate of the diagnosed covid cases.
So the vaccine still appear to be far safer than getting covid. But the vaccine is not "perfectly safe".
All those science mistakes were a long time ago,
It is different this time.
“. . . [R]eports of death following Covid-19 vaccinations dwarf those of all other vaccines in the 30 years VAERS has been in use.” That’s the shocking tidbit I heard also, that there’ve been something like five or ten times as many deaths in the past two months as in the entire 30-year history of VAERS recordkeeping. And that’s not taking into account the notorious fudging of its stats.
So, that works out to .005% fatality rate IF every VAERS report is indeed “causal”, which we all know they are not.
But even if you go with “yep, every single report of death in VAERS was absolutely, positively CAUSED by the vaccines”, that’s still - worst case - .005%.
Now, Case Fatality Rate is ~1.7% (612.242 [!!] US deaths / 34,205,661 cases).
1.7 / .005 = 340. So, even IF all cases in VAERS are indeed causal, you’re 340X more likely to die from COVID should you get it, vs dying from the vaccine.
Maybe it’s time to take the foot off the “vaccines are bad, bad, BAD” accelerator for a bit, huh? Not saying 2,000 deaths should be ignored..but for those of you who want to ignore *C*FR and get all wrapped around *I*FR which be definition is ASSUMED and pure supposition/guesswork, you can’t have it both ways. ie: you can’t say the VAERS death numbers are gospel and all causal while insisting the *C*FR numbers are somehow manipulated BS.
And to the “but, but, but...there are a lot of deaths not being reported to VAERS!” argument..the same could be said for Case Fatalities also. Again, you can’t have it both ways.
We do not know the true denominator in covid cases. We do know the true denominator in vaccines.
You cannot compare percentages like that. But I know, the math….. it’s hard……..
Yea, you kinda are.
psssst.....Its over 5k now, and counting.
Whoever made this a line graph knows nothing of data analysis.
I like that better than "yep, every single report of death in VAERS was absolutely, positively NOT caused by the vaccines".
My mama said, "Err on the side of caution".
Of course I can.
The numbers may not be perfect. But they are the best we have.
Even if all 320 million people in the nation had gotten covid instead of just the 34 million diagnosed. The infection fatality rate would be 612,000/320 million or 0.19%.
So my conclusion wouldn’t change at all. The vaccine in the short run is far safer than getting the virus. But the vaccine is not perfectly safe.
What are the long term effects of the jab?
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There's such a thing as being too much of a nerd for your own good.
Read later.
Bottom line VAERS has now published 2000+ deaths January or older generated from the first 36 million doses only!
Okay so 2000/36 million= 1 in 18,000 or 0.005%.
Still much lower than 1.6% case fatality rate of the diagnosed covid cases.
So the vaccine still appear to be far safer than getting covid. But the vaccine is not “perfectly safe”.
I can play with words and statistics too.
first you pull a 1.6% number from somewhere, then clarify that it is only diagnosed cases which dramatically increases the mortality rate, what if there is 1 diagnosed case per 10,000 undiagnosed asymptomatic cases ?
what percent of people had the flu, but were presumed covid ?
what percent of people who had reactions to injections were never at any risk from covid?
how many people will have adverse effects in a few years ?
please try again.
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