I understand the CDC will reject this estimate and declare it hyperbole. If the CDC wishes to replace estimates with data, it can update VAERS with all records it has received. Further, the CDC can open communications channels to all those who are having problems filing their Adverse Event Reports with the CDC.
I have often heard it said on the forum that the initial "vaccinations" administered in December and January are likely heavily weighted with reports of deaths due to the frailest, elderly having been prioritized for early vaccination. To them I say, PROVE IT. We need not exclusively accept and consider theories which protect the 'good name' of the experimental gene therapies.
I know the frailest were vaccinated first. The vaccine was supposed to protect them. I've been concerned by anecdotal information steadily relayed by nursing homes reporting significant numbers of residents harmed by these 'vaccinations.'
The following linked thread featuring a moving, first-hand acount provided by a Whistleblower working in nursing care facilities. In it, the CNA begged the public to stop the use of 'vaccines' as his patients were 'dropping like flies.' He described the excuses given for the untimely deaths.
We need proof - not assertions about the circle of life or statements stating, "Well he was old...so...." If the vaccines are not safe for the elderly - then stop administering them.
I've had vax pushers point out to me unusual vaccinations as if they explain away record numbers of deaths (e.g., vaccinations of elderly people in hospice care, the death of a patient 99 years of age who, when vaccinated had not eaten in a week.) A troll breezily asked me for the numeric estimate for the demographic containing 99 year olds who hadn't eaten in a week.
THIS IS NOT A GAME OF STRATEGY. Vaccinating people in hospice or those unable or unwilling to eat should not be policy in the first place. Their likely suffering at the hands of the vaccinators should not be used as fodder to refute concerns regarding 'vaccine' safety!
Someone needs to explain charts like this one, which show that reports of death following Covid-19 vaccinations dwarf those of all other vaccines in the 30 years VAERS has been in use. (Reports of Deaths published to VAERS now exceed 5000).
Over and over I've read reports in VAERS in which the briefest summary I can provide for many of the elderly is, "He was fine until he got the vaccine..." The numbers and discussions often orbit the reports of deaths, but there are also losses to quality of life that bear investigation (strokes, heart attacks, paralysis etc.)
I'm not going to assume whatever explanation best protects Pfizer is the best answer to explain away the 2000 deaths reported following the first 36 million doses of the 'vaccines'.
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Arizona Resident Marty Logan Details How His Mother DIED FROM THE JAB“The medical examiners did not want to do an autopsy, they wanted to write COVID on it. We said ‘No’. When we find the death certificate and it says on here ‘Adult failure to thrive, cardiac failure’. Well, I have an autopsy right here that says there was no cardiac failure. It says there was no heart attack. There was no stroke. There was no aneurysm.
We then sent the brain tissues out to a neuro specialist. Here are the final autopsy results: She had a massive and rapid liver failure. I asked the doctor “what was it like in her final moments when she went out?”.
When she died she had a shortness of breath, which felt like she was being choked and someone had their hand wrapped around their neck.
Here is the VAERS report that the pathologist sent to the FDA last week:
The pathologist STATES that it was an adverse reaction to the vaccine. It was the Moderna vaccine. My mom tested negative for covid on January 31. She received the COVID vaccine on February 16. I had dinner with her that night. we had onion rings, we had a margarita, she was fine. She dropped dead the next day. These are the facts. Knowledge is power. make up your own mind.”
Okay so 2000/36 million= 1 in 18,000 or 0.005%.
Still much lower than 1.6% case fatality rate of the diagnosed covid cases.
So the vaccine still appear to be far safer than getting covid. But the vaccine is not "perfectly safe".
So, that works out to .005% fatality rate IF every VAERS report is indeed “causal”, which we all know they are not.
But even if you go with “yep, every single report of death in VAERS was absolutely, positively CAUSED by the vaccines”, that’s still - worst case - .005%.
Now, Case Fatality Rate is ~1.7% (612.242 [!!] US deaths / 34,205,661 cases).
1.7 / .005 = 340. So, even IF all cases in VAERS are indeed causal, you’re 340X more likely to die from COVID should you get it, vs dying from the vaccine.
Maybe it’s time to take the foot off the “vaccines are bad, bad, BAD” accelerator for a bit, huh? Not saying 2,000 deaths should be ignored..but for those of you who want to ignore *C*FR and get all wrapped around *I*FR which be definition is ASSUMED and pure supposition/guesswork, you can’t have it both ways. ie: you can’t say the VAERS death numbers are gospel and all causal while insisting the *C*FR numbers are somehow manipulated BS.
And to the “but, but, but...there are a lot of deaths not being reported to VAERS!” argument..the same could be said for Case Fatalities also. Again, you can’t have it both ways.
Whoever made this a line graph knows nothing of data analysis.
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Read later.
These are not vaccine, science experiment is more like it, and a bad one at that. Many more people to from vaxxing.
The chart is cool. Except it would be interesting to “normalize” the results. Is there another vaccine given in the past year that comes close the volume of the Covid Vaxes?
Hardly any of the arguments related to the Covid Vaccines are done in a way that represents anything close to an academic assessment. They are as emotional as the arguments made by liberals to wear masks.
Has it dawned on either side they are being “played?”
So around 100 die from flu shot every year compared to 1000’s dieing from these synthetic chemical devices reclassified as vaccines, yet we’re still full steam ahead.
So they lied about the origins of Covid, stands to reason they’re lying about the safety of these synthetic chemical devices
“ I’m not going to assume whatever explanation best protects Pfizer is the best answer to explain away the 2000 deaths reported following the first 36 million doses of the ‘vaccines’. ”
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Sounds like you’re looking for the most dramatic outrages anti-vax explanation and won’t settle for anything else.
Well, here how about this……..the majority of the first people vaccinated were old or very old with one foot in the grave to begin with.
2,000 out of 36 million?
You think that’s high?
Tell me you’re kidding.
The fellow has a lot of good data but he is a horrible presenter.
100% of the people vaccinated will die (eventually).