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To: ransomnote
Bottom line VAERS has now published 2000+ deaths January or older generated from the first 36 million doses only!

Okay so 2000/36 million= 1 in 18,000 or 0.005%.
Still much lower than 1.6% case fatality rate of the diagnosed covid cases.

So the vaccine still appear to be far safer than getting covid. But the vaccine is not "perfectly safe".

6 posted on 06/06/2021 12:42:53 PM PDT by DannyTN (,)
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To: DannyTN

We do not know the true denominator in covid cases. We do know the true denominator in vaccines.

You cannot compare percentages like that. But I know, the math….. it’s hard……..


11 posted on 06/06/2021 12:46:42 PM PDT by walkingdead (We are sacrificing American youth's future on the altar of our own fear. And it is a travesty.)
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To: DannyTN

What are the long term effects of the jab?


16 posted on 06/06/2021 12:52:32 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (I'm changing my name to 'Spike Protein'!)
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To: DannyTN

Bottom line VAERS has now published 2000+ deaths January or older generated from the first 36 million doses only!

Okay so 2000/36 million= 1 in 18,000 or 0.005%.
Still much lower than 1.6% case fatality rate of the diagnosed covid cases.

So the vaccine still appear to be far safer than getting covid. But the vaccine is not “perfectly safe”.

I can play with words and statistics too.

first you pull a 1.6% number from somewhere, then clarify that it is only diagnosed cases which dramatically increases the mortality rate, what if there is 1 diagnosed case per 10,000 undiagnosed asymptomatic cases ?

what percent of people had the flu, but were presumed covid ?

what percent of people who had reactions to injections were never at any risk from covid?

how many people will have adverse effects in a few years ?

please try again.


20 posted on 06/06/2021 12:55:27 PM PDT by algore
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To: DannyTN
Still much lower than 1.6% case fatality rate of the diagnosed covid cases.

If you buy that number.

24 posted on 06/06/2021 12:58:42 PM PDT by MileHi ((Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: DannyTN
Bottom line VAERS has now published 2000+ deaths January or older generated from the first 36 million doses only!

Okay so 2000/36 million= 1 in 18,000 or 0.005%.
Still much lower than 1.6% case fatality rate of the diagnosed covid cases.

So the vaccine still appear to be far safer than getting covid. But the vaccine is not "perfectly safe".

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SO it looks like you are willfully distorting the data. Count me 'not surprised.'

1 in 18,000 is .055555 % or one hundred time larger than your calculation.

According to rounding rules, that's .06%

There are numerous ways the CDC is suppressing 'certain records' and in the instance of Covid-19, they are doing everything they can to keep reports out of VAERS so 'normal' estimates of vast underreporting go out the door.

For example, many VAERS records for Covid-19 are ER visits in which the patient is stabilized from heart attack, stroke etc. They are then transferred out and no update is ever conducted to report whether they lived or not.  There are long-term effects which are common to mRNA technology (ADE, autoimmune illnesses). The actual death rate is much, much higher and can involve a medical decline of days, weeks, months.

When you compare the case fatality rate, you are not conducting an apples to apples comparison. If someone gets Covid-19, they usually get over it. Some of the vulnerable do not. After contending with Covid-19, if they did not get the 'vaccine', the person has immunity from repeat infections from Covid-19.

The 'vaccine' death rate is worse because VAERS is a snapshot of what will be many years of ongoing medical problems and complications as the body continues to create billions of spike proteins which may or may not trigger allergic reactions, autoimmunity, heart damage, brain damage, strokes etc. We are only 6 months into a lasting problem. 

Then, supposedly to 'maintain' fake immunity (vaccinated still get Covid and are likely to get it more severely per the history of mRNA technology) a person is expected to keep getting more vaccinations, increasing the damage, inccuring the same or increasing death rates with each injection.

There is no comparrison. The 'vaccines' are a horror show intentionally inflicted on the public. Safe, effective FDA approved medications in use for decades have been available but denied to those ill with Covid. If the public had been permitted treatment when they were ill, the fake death statistics would be a fraction of what they are today.

The CDC released reports MAY 5, one of which indicated that only 5% of the 500K+ deaths attributed from Covid-19 were from 'Covid-19 alone'. The other 95% of the deaths were from people who had an average of 4 other co-morbidities (Hint: many didn't die from Covid).

The PCR test does not detect the Covid-19 virus nor the Covid illness. So those who died and are attributed as "Covid-19 only" did so from a mixture of respiratory illnesses.

Because all medications were withheld from anyone testing postive from a PCR 'test' (which had a 97% false positive rate), people with respiratory diseases for which even the CDC would allow treatment were misdiagnosed with Covid and denied all treatment.

So the CDC, Fauci and others are responsible for the deaths of those from whom they withheld treatment by falsely maligning HCQ/Ivermectin, and they are responsible for the needless deaths of those having the 'vaccine'.

Deaths are not the only problem with Covid 'vaccines'. Active people stricken with life changing, shortening, limiting conditions requiring support services and continuing treatment are suffering too. People who get over illnesses attributed to "Covid-19" fare so much better.

36 posted on 06/06/2021 1:24:44 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: DannyTN

I goofed my math.
Your .005% is correct for 2000/36 million.

Everything else you said to diminish the actual damage caused by ‘vaccines’ is not correct. I describe some of the ways your comparisons of death rate to potential harm caused by ‘vaccines’ (VAERS) is not true in my prior post.

An example I didn’t list, and the reason why my calculation was wrong, is that 1% or less of real world deaths after vaccination are reported to VAERS.

So 100 X .005% then gets the .5% I posted. (correcting for reports to CDC and adding adverse events not reported).

‘Case rate’ is invalid due to exaggerating statistics but why not compare it to risk of dying (tiny) versus risk of harm from any single ‘vaccination’ dose’? That would be more accurate.

For the vulnerable people at risk of dying from Covid-19, medication protocols are available which cut the risk of death by 85%

Use real numbers.


40 posted on 06/06/2021 1:36:30 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: DannyTN

I think each person needs to make their own decision. My doctor has advised I do not take it due to several underlying health issues.

Plus the fact that there are no long-term studies, especially on the protein spikes, which do not act like scientists exptected in many cases.


46 posted on 06/06/2021 1:44:41 PM PDT by LeoTDB69
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To: DannyTN

Why do vaxxers always ignore the FACT they counted all deaths as covid if they “tested” positive? Nowhere near the people they claimed died of covid actually died from it.


62 posted on 06/06/2021 2:32:15 PM PDT by roving
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To: DannyTN

You’re making an error of logic in that the two cannot be compared.

The difference is that people are being killed by something designed to HEAL them.

(By contrast, we already know the virus kills. It’s performing its function.)

All-caps summary:
PULL THE VAXXES OFF THE MARKET


81 posted on 06/06/2021 3:36:08 PM PDT by ReaganGeneration2
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To: DannyTN

Still much lower than 1.6% case fatality rate of the diagnosed covid cases.
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I would love to see your “ sources”, my source, CDC and EU states the Covid is officially 99.8 percent survivable, ( very latest is 99.9 percent), which makes the death rate .1 percent and the largest majority is those over 70. Covid is/ was/ will forever be the biggest scam ever played on humanity no matter how you stretch, torture of mis represent the numbers.


96 posted on 06/06/2021 6:26:28 PM PDT by delta7
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