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Caught in a 'pickle,' tens of millions of Americans might not have had an adequate response to the Covid-19 vaccine
CNN ^ | June 4, 2021 | Elizabeth Cohen

Posted on 06/04/2021 2:03:18 PM PDT by BenLurkin

Vaccines never tested in people with immune deficiencies

While there's no clear number of how many Americans are taking medications that might prove to be a challenge for the Covid-19 vaccine, a new study can help give an estimate. In a paper published last month, Dr. Beth Wallace, a rheumatologist and her team at the University of Michigan, looked at a database of more than 3 million Americans to see how many took immunosuppressants. Based on that data, Wallace estimates that about 60 million Americans are taking immunosuppressants that could interfere with the vaccine.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: bethwallace; chinavirusvaccine; ditgs; elizabethcohen; gasbag; immunosuppressants; medications; xinn; xisnewspuppets
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To: gas_dr

She is the director do the group and has authority over the board. You can research the fact she has been discredited by numerous boards and group and groups. She was arrested this year under questionable circumstances. She promotes widely discredited theories from a scientific standpoint but she is getting her 15 of fame.

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As I said, she was wonderful until she questioned. She had the audacity to color outside the lines...To question the group-think. I don’t care if a hundred boards discredit her. And the more biden, governors, and the pop stars and influencers push/nudge, offer extravagant deals (on taxpayer dime), the more questions I have.

15 minutes of fame?...She is getting the Trump media treatment...and that is no “treat.” I believe she is standing on her convictions/what she believes to be best care, you know things doctors are supposed to do in a free society...

Eh at least she has excellent credentials as I have posted to you at least twice before....Still waiting for you to share your expertise...

Don’t know much except that you seem to really have some serious dog in the hunt to discredit her and perhaps anyone else who is not following biden/fauci directives.

Me? I think I have provided my credentials. I am not promoting myself as an expert...I find articles and post links...I am not in healthcare, and I want to learn. I think the clinical trials should be much longer and should have covered pregnant women, etc. That said, I do have family members who are...I own no pharma stock at the moment...I just want to be able to read all sides of the issues...in a free society on FREE Republic website...

I specifically asked you to provide a name of said doctor you continue to associate with Dr. Gold as IT IS NOT HER, and specify what position this person holds on the board. I have asked at least twice before...yet you don’t provide it...But you continue to repeat the misinformation. There is a word for this...*

And you now go to something else to discredit her. What would that be? Ah, Gold was arrested this year under “questionable circumstances?!?!”*

What would this “questionable circumstance” be? Why it would be the January 6 Capitol incident where she along with many TRUMP SUPPORTERS went inside the capitol~unaware they were not allowed...So the “questionable” issue is really fact that she even was arrested IMHO... And, as I told you, video shows the capitol police motioned for many to come and Gateway Pundit interviewed someone saying the magnetic door locks were opened from the inside...

But you know this as I already addressed this to you in detail in a previous post. And here you go again trying to discredit her...As I said then, I would be surprised if there weren’t Freepers there on January 6. The damage was done by Antifa insurgents, not Trump supporters.

Seriously, what is your deal with this woman? She turn you down on a date in college?

I leave you with this word...Think about it.

*Definition of Libel:
In short, libel is publication of false information about a person that causes injury to that person’s reputation.


41 posted on 06/04/2021 6:11:47 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 (If I wanted to live in China, I would move there!)
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To: Freedom56v2

First, truth is an absolute defense to libel. Perhaps it is that you have a crush on her, I dont know. Believe her, follow her, whatever you want its your choice. I finder a disservice to the profession. I am a critical care physician. She jumped the shark with numerous of the statements she and her group has made.

She is the head of a group that is clearly on the fringe, and yet calls herself and organization frontline physicians, when they are arthropods, non practicing physicians, and even non-clinicians.

Dig a little, she a an excellent self promoter with a title. But as for reputable in medicine — she is not.

Again, please feel free to believe her and follow her thoughts, but she is not well respected in the field.


42 posted on 06/04/2021 6:20:45 PM PDT by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Will. )
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To: BenLurkin

I have an immune disorder, my neurologist is in research at UCLA med center he told me not to take this vaccine under any circumstances there is no data on people with immune disorders!! He is also fearful that this vaccine will creat immune disorders in vaccinated people in the future!! He has ALL of his patients on D3, C, Quercetin, NAC, and Zinc to this day he has not had ONE single patient infected with the virus!!


43 posted on 06/04/2021 6:29:27 PM PDT by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: Seruzawa; All
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Always some new CCP Virus scare going on..."


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44 posted on 06/04/2021 6:33:57 PM PDT by musicman (The future is just a collection of successive nows.)
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To: gas_dr; All
"All in all, a message from a quack not worth hearing, but spoken with great sound and fury...."

Reads EXACTLY like anything and everything you've ever posted on FR in your entire life "Eddie"!!!
45 posted on 06/04/2021 6:38:36 PM PDT by musicman (The future is just a collection of successive nows.)
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To: gas_dr

The arrest was a different Beth Wallace.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/sep/18/bethann-marie-wallace-arrested-charged-threatening/


46 posted on 06/04/2021 6:39:45 PM PDT by David Chase
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To: musicman

You so like to respond to things not said to you, take them out of context and reply to all. What kind of stalker narcissist are you? You are fake news, taking comment out of context and attacking. Please, go away and stop posting to me. I never post to you as it is a waste of my time...but I enjoy living rent free in your head that you have to stalk every comment I make to reply to it.

What a loser.


47 posted on 06/04/2021 6:40:19 PM PDT by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Will. )
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To: David Chase

https://www.medpagetoday.com/washington-watch/washington-watch/90778


48 posted on 06/04/2021 6:41:49 PM PDT by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Will. )
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To: David Chase

https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/defendants/gold-simone-melissa

Here is the DOJ statement


49 posted on 06/04/2021 6:43:52 PM PDT by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Will. )
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To: gas_dr

Uh sure? A crush? She is not my type—I am a married grandMOTHER with 4 grandkids.

“Truth is an absolute defense to libel.” That is what I would really like to see around here. But you have not posted truth about her...

And you moved on to something else...”She jumped the shark with numerous statements she and her group has made.”

OK, so how about you share those statements, etc.—you know debate the actual medical issues you have with her or her group instead of impugning her reputation on unsubstantiated or untrue associations/charges. If you have expertise, then please share it.

Enjoy the rest of your night.


50 posted on 06/04/2021 6:46:27 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 (If I wanted to live in China, I would move there!)
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To: gas_dr

Oh. Wow. No kidding.
I didn’t hear about that.

While in jail, instead of dreaming about demons, she can dream about Bubba giving her GYN problems.........

#CellMatesForever


51 posted on 06/04/2021 6:47:07 PM PDT by David Chase
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To: gas_dr
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52 posted on 06/04/2021 6:47:48 PM PDT by musicman (The future is just a collection of successive nows.)
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To: Freedom56v2

Well, you know its the year 2021, you could have a crush (I was just responding to the attack about her rejecting me for a date — but fair enough).

Her group has made numerous fringe statements — see AFLD website and compare with other literature, it is a large task to fully document all of her fringe theories and statements.

With all due and sincere respect, you are asking me to redevelop all the pro and contra arguments of the use of HCQ, which is been debated ad nauseam on this forum. Please feel free to look at my posting history — I try (despite certain stalkers) to remain objective in the medical analysis. As for my credentials, I am a critical care anesthesiologist in a large hospital system but being threatened to be doxxed and generally attacked by two particular stalkers one of whom hypocritically sites her faith with viscerally attacking me, I am not incline to say much more for my security.

I stand on what I have said and shared over the course of caring for those critically ill with CoVID over the last 18 months or so.

I wish you all the best as well


53 posted on 06/04/2021 6:51:55 PM PDT by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Will. )
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To: musicman

You really need to get some. new material.

Loser


54 posted on 06/04/2021 6:52:18 PM PDT by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Will. )
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To: gas_dr
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55 posted on 06/04/2021 6:55:50 PM PDT by musicman (The future is just a collection of successive nows.)
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To: musicman

Cut and past king!

Loser


56 posted on 06/04/2021 6:59:01 PM PDT by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Will. )
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To: BenLurkin

More of the CA pushback.
CA RATS are scared they are loosing the battle.


57 posted on 06/04/2021 6:59:54 PM PDT by Zathras
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58 posted on 06/04/2021 7:03:28 PM PDT by musicman (The future is just a collection of successive nows.)
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To: BenLurkin

Well if you are taking immuno *suppressants” that could affect more than just a response to a vaccine.


59 posted on 06/04/2021 7:19:38 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: gas_dr; Freedom56v2; Jane Long
I don't know, Gassie. But from my view from the cheap seats, Freedom56v2 is kicking your ass and you seem a little high strung.

Fauci's e-mails got you down? 😁


60 posted on 06/04/2021 8:34:36 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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