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The United States Began To Fail Abroad 70 Years Ago In The Korean War: Korea is a thought-provoking conflict that should be studied in intimate detail. Let’s learn from our failures.
The Federalist ^ | 05/31/2021 | Ellis Domenech

Posted on 05/31/2021 9:46:10 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Seventy years ago, conflict on the Korean Peninsula raged. “The Forgotten War,” as it has come to be known, claimed upwards of 4 million lives by some estimates.

Why is the Korean War so rarely discussed in military science or foreign policy circles? We tend to study our successes more often than our failures. This conflict offers both for study, especially the latter.

The Korean War came less than five years after the end of World War II, when America had the most powerful military on earth. Nevertheless, we were embarrassed multiple times on the battlefield.

In Clay Blair’s massive tome on the war, he states, “The first year of the Korean War was a ghastly ordeal for the United States Army. For various reasons, it was not prepared mentally, physically, or otherwise for war. On the whole, its leadership at the army, corps, division, regiment, and battalion levels was overaged, inexperienced, often incompetent, and not physically capable of coping with the rigorous climate of Korea.”

The Weather and Terrain Played a Part

Terrain and weather have immense effects on military operations. Friendly and enemy forces suffer alike, and little can be done to improve one’s situation. Korea has hot, wet summers and brutal winters. The terrain in the central part of the country is some of the toughest U.S. soldiers ever fought in, of high peaks with few roads.

The fighting started in the summer. June 1950 was hot, and troops suffered dehydration. As summer turned to winter, U.S. troops were not adequately supplied with winter clothing. They fought up the Korean Peninsula to the Yalu River and the Chinese border in the same clothes they arrived in. Temperatures there dropped to 20 below zero.

After World War II, the American public and soldiers abroad demanded rapid demobilization. Congressmen were hounded to “bring the boys home.” This brought America’s armed forces from an all-time high of 12 million in uniform down to 1.5 million, below even our current all-volunteer force.

The troops left were therefore barely enough to respond to any Soviet aggression while also occupying Germany and Japan. The military was gutted. In Korea, we committed into combat most likely the least trained and least-equipped army in our history.

When the Korean hostilities began, the average regimental commander, a full-bird colonel position, was close to ten years older than the recommended age. George C Marshall stressed in WWII that the average age be no more than 45 years old. This is not ageism. Marshall knew that ground warfare is no walk in the park. If you physically cannot keep up, you will fail.

When the North Korean People’s Army (NKPA) launched their offensive on 25 June, the South Korean Army was caught unprepared and subsequently went into full rout. Despite several Pentagon studies showing it was disadvantageous to fight on the Korean Peninsula and that doing so would commit forces to a strategically irrelevant region, President Truman felt it was imperative to fight Communists there.

Gen. Douglas MacArthur, Far East Command’s commander in chief, believed the real fight was with Red China. MacArthur was both brilliant and irrational in his last war at 70 years old. His insubordination resulted in his firing by President Truman.

Understaffed and Underprepared

To stem the NKPA tide, the undertrained and underequipped U.S. Army 24th Infantry Division was committed to battle. Its piecemeal defense resulted in the division essentially becoming a speed bump for the NKPA. Despite his bravery in personal combat as his unit collapsed, even the division commander, William F. Dean, became a prisoner of war for the next three years.

Our first units on the ground were armed with obsolete bazookas firing 2.36-inch rockets, thanks to Truman administration budget cuts. These rockets failed to stop North Korean T-34 tanks. Numerous units were overrun by armored forces until the updated 3.5-inch bazooka could be rushed into the theater from the United States.

As the U.S.-trained Republic of Korea (ROK) military continued to collapse, the American Eighth Army, now consisting of the 25th Infantry Division and First Cavalry Division with the shattered 24th Infantry Division, shrank into a perimeter in the southeastern corner of the peninsula around the port of Pusan.

Reinforced by tank battalions that had to use M26 Pershing tanks pulled down from display pedestals at Fort Knox, the ROK and U.S. forces held the line. The NKPA, lacking sufficient air or naval power, had vastly extended supply lines while our forces had increasingly shorter ones.

The Joint Chiefs continued to believe Korea was merely a Soviet feint to suck American resources in while they planned an invasion of Japan or Europe, so they hesitated to commit more forces to Korea. Despite misgivings from most of the U.S. leadership, they provided more forces. The Second Infantry Division, Fifth Regimental Combat Team, and United Nations forces began to arrive in Pusan.

In September 1950, MacArthur went forward with his ambitious plan to outflank the NKPA by conducting an amphibious landing at Inchon using the X Corps, consisting of the Seventh Infantry Division along with the First Marine Division and ROK forces. There was tremendous disagreement between leadership over the pros and cons, but MacArthur’s dominating presence prevailed and the landing was conducted with incredible success.

Seoul was recaptured a few days later. After several tough battles, Eighth Army was able to break out from the Pusan perimeter and most of South Korea was retaken from fleeing NKPA units. But the goal of trapping all NKPA forces was not achieved.

The Truman administration then decided to cross the 38th parallel and pursue the NKPA deep into North Korean territory. As U.S. and ROK forces rapidly moved north, supply lines stretched and the front became wider and rapidly more mountainous. Poorly trained units were not in close contact and were increasingly stuck to the few existing roads.

Intelligence Failures Were Common

Intelligence failures were common in the Korean War. Far East Command regularly disregarded lower-level intelligence reports. There was a prevailing idea throughout the national security establishment that Red China would not commit forces to the Korean conflict. There was a continual racist denigration of their fighting prowess and abilities. MacArthur was confident that strategic bombers would smash any Chinese Communist Forces (CCF).

Chinese troops began to show up as POWs and readily divulged their unit designations and movement plans. U.S. frontline units became increasingly uneasy. Intelligence reports believed maybe 34,000 CCF were in North Korea. In reality, 300,000 had crossed the Yalu River on foot, under cover of darkness, and were preparing for an all-out assault on UN positions.

Over the next few months, several massive CCF offensives pushed UN forces back down the peninsula past Seoul once more. The CCF relied on enormous human-wave night attacks that would simply overwhelm poorly dug-in ROK and UN units.

The U.S. Army was primarily road-bound in Korea, which allowed units to be bypassed and surrounded by CCF forces on foot. When they attempted to break back to friendly lines, they had to run a gauntlet of roadblocks. Unbelievable numbers of American vehicles, heavy equipment, and artillery pieces were abandoned on roadways as units attempted to flee ambushes. The thought of American troops fleeing battle and throwing down their arms seems impossible, but happened numerous times and was dubbed “bug-out fever.”

Under the leadership of Mathew Ridgeway, Eighth Army refocused on proper defensive tactics, which allowed massively outnumbered units to hold off much larger CCF concentrations. At Chipyong-ni, the 23rd Infantry Regiment, along with a French battalion, held off Chinese forces at least five times their strength while surrounded. Artillery units shot unbelievable amounts of ammunition. Even then, the infantrymen on the ground were often in hand-to-hand night fighting.

The Communist Chinese leadership was more than happy to throw wave upon wave of their countrymen into the attack to ultimately be shattered by concentrated artillery fire, air attack, and overlapping fields of machinegun fire. From April to July 1951, 7.6 million rounds of artillery ammunition were used by UN forces to halt the Chinese offensives.

Americans Were Sick of Foreign Wars

Our own troops, however, did not have the stomach to keep killing peasants for no reason, in what they dubbed the “yo-yo war.” The American public had a 30 percent approval rating of the war, and Truman’s chances at another term were quickly evaporating as his approval rating sank to 22 percent.

Diplomatic feelers were sent out through the Soviets, and armistice talks began in Kaesong. The talks dragged on for two more years due to both sides’ unwillingness to compromise and diplomatic blundering. Meanwhile, the armies still had several major clashes along the 38th parallel.

Our current foreign policy puts us at odds with North Korea and China. We fought them to a standstill in the Korean War nearly 70 years ago, and are still in a stalemate on the 38th parallel. An armistice was signed in 1953, but there is no true peace treaty. The closest we’ve come was in 2018 when North and South Korean leaders Kim Jong-un and Moon Jae-in signed the Panmunjom Declaration during the Inter-Korean Summit.

This was later reaffirmed during a historic summit meeting between President Donald Trump and Kim Jong-un. This groundbreaking progress regressed as the Trump White House focused on domestic issues in 2020.

Korea is a thought-provoking conflict that should be studied in intimate detail by the U.S. military and foreign policy experts. Let’s learn from our failures. Past actions cannot necessarily predict the future, but why not gain as much knowledge as we can regarding the Chinese and Korean mindset and the nature of the battlefield on the Korean Peninsula?

This Memorial Day, let’s remember the Korean War and the 33,739 Americans who died fighting communism. Their sacrifice on the altar of freedom must not be forgotten.


Ellis Domenech is a former psychological operations officer in the U.S. Army with multiple combat deployments to Afghanistan and Africa.


TOPICS: History; Military/Veterans; Society
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To: bert
To defend McArthur in the light of recent truthful scholarship is stupidity

Woke versions of history are always best. Got it.

61 posted on 05/31/2021 3:50:39 PM PDT by itsahoot (Many Republicans a secretly Democrats, no Democrats are secretly Republicans. Bongino says.)
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To: Signalman

“...until Truman stopped MacArthur from invading China.”

MacArthur did not want to invade China, but he wanted to destroy the NORKS and drive them into China. The only action MacArthur ever contemplated vis-à-vis China was to bomb strategic sites, and at that it was a musing rather than a serious idea.

MacArthur first got into trouble with Truman when in the fall of 1950 he told Truman that it was highly unlikely the Red Chinese would intervene, contrary to what intelligence reports suggested, and which MacArthur ignored.

X Corps, under the command of the insufferable General Edward Almond, a MacArthur toady, was largely responsible for the debacle at Chosin Reservoir, in which the grossly outmanned US Marines performed valiantly, thanks to the leadership of Marine general Oliver P. Smith. The breakout from Chosin should be studied by any serious student of history.


62 posted on 05/31/2021 4:21:22 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: bert
To defend McArthur in the light of recent truthful scholarship is stupidity

You have been badly deceived.

63 posted on 05/31/2021 4:21:41 PM PDT by fso301
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To: ought-six
MacArthur first got into trouble with Truman when in the fall of 1950 he told Truman that it was highly unlikely the Red Chinese would intervene, contrary to what intelligence reports suggested, and which MacArthur ignored.

That is a false account. MacArthur was well aware of the Red buildup but didn't believe a Chinese commander would risk their utter annihilation in Korea due to the certainty of such forces being completely cutoff from resupply.

What MacArthur didn't comprehend was that Truman would shackle US forces in a way unprecedented in American military history.

64 posted on 05/31/2021 4:26:55 PM PDT by fso301
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To: Tallguy

“I had read an anecdote (take it for what it’s worth) that many of the PLA units committed to the Korean theater were former Nationalist Chinese Units that had defected late in the recent Communist revolution. The implication being that Mao was prepared to take heavy casualties and was cynically sacrificing his least reliable troops, politically-speaking.”

Well, it is certainly true that there were quite a few former Nationalist troops fighting with the CCF; they were also the most likely to surrender. The CCF relied on geography and manpower to drive back the UN forces, and they sustained terrible losses in doing so. But, as you mentioned, Mao didn’t give a hoot about losses.

I’ve read several works on the Chosin fight in particular. That was an unbelievable fight.


65 posted on 05/31/2021 4:30:24 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: Honorary Serb
It’s the nukes!!!!

So Eisenhower was also crazy for threatening the use of nukes in order to bring about a ceasefire??

66 posted on 05/31/2021 4:32:39 PM PDT by fso301
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To: Honorary Serb

Agree completely.


67 posted on 05/31/2021 4:37:36 PM PDT by JonPreston (Q: Never have so many, been so wrong, so often)
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To: dfwgator

“Consider the fact, also, had we not dropped the A-Bomb on Japan, the most likely result would have been Japan being divided just like Korea, and most likely a war instigated by the Communists to take all of Japan.”

Yes, that was certainly a possibility, especially given what transpired with Korea at the end of WWII. Remember, Korea had been a Japanese protectorate since 1910, when Korea was annexed by Japan. So, a part of Japan actually WAS divided and the communists (the Soviets) got North Korea.


68 posted on 05/31/2021 4:40:22 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: itsahoot

“According to Harry he only had a couple Nukes in stock and they really didn’t want to build more.”

Not true. In 1950 we had a lot more nukes than “a couple in stock.” in 1950 we had just under 300; five years later we had almost 2,500.


69 posted on 05/31/2021 4:45:33 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: PGR88
They were considered poor, insignificant countries not worth fighting over. ...

The only ones that come out one the war were the arms merchants and the FED bank system got its reset. Korea and Viet Nam were both UN operations also.

70 posted on 05/31/2021 4:46:05 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: fso301

“Three days before the full scale Chinese attack, MacArthur flew in an unarmed aircraft at 5,000 feet directly above the safe haven created by Truman, He flew from the mouth of the Yalu along the entire length of the front to the Siberian border.”

Yes, he did. And he said he saw no evidence at all of any Chinese buildup. The problem is, thousands had already crossed the Yalu into North Korea. Also, the CCF was heavy in manpower but very light on mechanized assets, so at 5,000 feet it’s pretty easy to miss troops who blended in quite nicely with the terrain, whereas rolling stock and mechanized assets would be easier to see.


71 posted on 05/31/2021 4:53:53 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: fso301

“That is a false account.”

Read some history. Truman asked MacArthur of China’s intentions, and MacArthur told him not to worry about it, that the Chinese would not intervene. Truman gave the approval to drive north of the 38th Parallel, but he was quite uneasy about going as far as the Yalu. Truman also told MacArthur that if China DID intervene, MacArthur was to withdraw all UN forces back across the 38th Parallel.


72 posted on 05/31/2021 5:02:10 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: ought-six
Read some history.

I have. That's why I try to set the record straight.

Truman asked MacArthur of China’s intentions, and MacArthur told him not to worry about it, that the Chinese would not intervene.

I believe you are referencing the Wake Island Conference in Oct 1950. At that conference, MacArrthur cited both the State Department and CIA's intelligence indicating that the Chinese would not attack whereas MacArthur's own intelligence was reporting heavy massing of Chinese forces but if they crossed the Yalu in force, unchecked US airpower would cut them off from resupply and they would be annihilated.

Truman gave the approval to drive north of the 38th Parallel, but he was quite uneasy about going as far as the Yalu. Truman also told MacArthur that if China DID intervene, MacArthur was to withdraw all UN forces back across the 38th Parallel.

In Sept 1950, the Joint Chiefs gave MacArthur the green light to advance north of the 38th parallel.

73 posted on 05/31/2021 5:26:35 PM PDT by fso301
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To: ought-six
And he said he saw no evidence at all of any Chinese buildup

Because tracks left by such movements would be quickly covered by snowstorms.

74 posted on 05/31/2021 5:44:50 PM PDT by fso301
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To: fso301

“I believe you are referencing the Wake Island Conference in Oct 1950. At that conference, MacArrthur cited both the State Department and CIA’s intelligence indicating that the Chinese would not attack whereas MacArthur’s own intelligence was reporting heavy massing of Chinese forces but if they crossed the Yalu in force, unchecked US airpower would cut them off from resupply and they would be annihilated.”

At the Wake Island conference (October 15, 1950) Truman asked about China’s intentions. Well, I’ll just quote historian Hampton Sides from his very good book “On Desperate Ground” (I could cite other sources, but this one was near at hand):

“The president cut to the subject that was foremost on his mind: What were the chances the Chinese might intervene in Korea? ... MacArthur played down Truman’s concern. His own intelligence indicated that the Chinese wouldn’t dare enter the conflict — and if they did, he was sure his forces would destroy them. He did not think much of Mao’s troops. They were nothing but a band of serfs — subsisting on rice balls and yams, relying on little burp guns and fizzly explosives that usually failed to detonate, an army held together with hemp string and bamboo.”

Truman asked again about Chinese intervention.

“Driving to the Yalu might provoke Mao; it might even spark a world war. ... MacArthur brushed away Truman’s question. ‘We are no longer fearful of their intervention,’ he replied. ‘The Chinese have 300,000 men in Manchuria. Only fifty to sixty thousand could be gotten across the Yalu River.”

MacArthur went on to tell Truman that organized resistance would be over by Thanksgiving, and that troops would be home by Christmas.

Two weeks after the Wake Island conference, on November 1, 1950, Truman was advised by CIA that Red Chinese troops had indeed crossed the Yalu, and that CCF “under Soviet direction,” are likely “committing themselves to full-scale intervention in Korea.”

On November 24, 1950, MacArthur flew along the length of the Yalu, and detected no trace of the Chinese. But they were there, and in force.


75 posted on 05/31/2021 6:27:58 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: laweeks

War should only be fought in an unlimited way. Meaning the troops involved should know we are there for total and complete victory. Otherwise we need to stay away. Total warfare sucks but half ass sucks more.


76 posted on 05/31/2021 6:40:36 PM PDT by wgmalabama (Tag line for rent)
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To: fso301
Perhaps, but China had the backing of the nuclear armed Soviet Union. A wider war against China would have required a US military effort that would have put Europe at risk. On the whole, Europe was the far greater strategic prize and a unified Korea as a free country was not worth the potential loss of Europe.

Nor was any American president eager to put the country into an expanded war with China that would have almost certainly incurred casualties far in excess of World War II. Notably, the Chinese leadership at the time regarded their country as uniquely able to absorb nuclear strikes due to its immense size and massive population.

77 posted on 05/31/2021 6:44:06 PM PDT by Rockingham
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To: ought-six
His own intelligence indicated that the Chinese wouldn’t dare enter the conflict — and if they did, he was sure his forces would destroy them.

What sane person wouldn't agree with such assessment? An attacking force must be resupplied but unchecked American air power would quickly destroy all bases and lines of supply. What MacArthur didn't comprehend was that Truman wouldn't allow unchecked American air power to be used against his red friends.

MacArthur went on to tell Truman that organized resistance would be over by Thanksgiving, and that troops would be home by Christmas.

Can you provide a primary source for that?

The troops home by Christmas was a request by Bradley which MacArthur to his regret repeated to some reporters.

78 posted on 05/31/2021 6:45:29 PM PDT by fso301
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To: fso301

That is arrogant stupidity


79 posted on 06/01/2021 5:11:05 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) History: Pelosi was pitiful vindictive California crone)
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To: ought-six
Not true. In 1950 we had a lot more nukes than “a couple in stock.” in 1950 we had just under 300; five years later we had almost 2,500.

Harry did a twelve part TV interview back in, I think 67, where he stated just that. It was on a local Missouri TV station when I was working in Missouri. He also tried to explain why he fired MacArthur.

80 posted on 06/01/2021 8:59:58 AM PDT by itsahoot (Many Republicans a secretly Democrats, no Democrats are secretly Republicans. Bongino says.)
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