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This is what I hate... it's NOT constitutional and none of McConnell's business.

I would argue it's not "conservative" either (where is the money coming from?) despite the fact many conservatives may well be generally sympathetic.

What do we think, Freepers? :/

1 posted on 05/25/2021 8:37:21 AM PDT by RandFan
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To: RandFan
I think you're anti-Israel.

None of McConnell's business??? Of course it is. He's part of the system.

And what's not Constitutional. I believe the bill is/has been in the works.

2 posted on 05/25/2021 8:41:09 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: RandFan

At this stage, ‘conservative’ is no longer in the dictionary.

Commenting using my emotions, I say it is kind of like buying .22 ammo with my credit card. It’s here now and so am I.

Meanwhile, I’ll watch for the reactions to McConnell.


3 posted on 05/25/2021 8:42:20 AM PDT by Scrambler Bob (My /s is more true than your /science (or you might mean /seance))
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To: RandFan

this is where libertarians show their true colors; yellow.


5 posted on 05/25/2021 8:43:59 AM PDT by JohnBrowdie
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To: RandFan

https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/rabbis-support-house-bill-to-make-us-aid-to-israel-more-transparent-665846


10 posted on 05/25/2021 8:47:11 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: RandFan

Back to what the Deep State does best — funding wars


12 posted on 05/25/2021 8:47:31 AM PDT by Chauncey Gardiner
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To: RandFan

Conservatives usually try to assure that our military (and those of our allies) is strong, in order to deter, prevent wars (or terrorist attacks like from Gaza, PLO-Abbas, 911, and other Muslim murder gangs).

Leftists usually try to weaken our defenses (and use the money for domestic communism and additional restrictions, limitations on our individual liberties at home). Most wars break out under (or are created by) Democratic regimes, due in major part to their patent weakness — or simply because they deliberately build wars (Viet Nam comes to mind).

Of course those are generalizations and there are exceptions but anyway since 1900 or so I believe they are reasonably accurate summaries of what’s happened.

Israel needs to be visibly and actually very strong to deter any more serious attacks against her. I am all for military cooperation and aid for Jerusalem. But I would add that money could also be used to great benefit by moving the Fakestinian Arabs back to Arab countries instead of allowing or facilitating or enabling their continued Occupation of Israeli territories and adjacent attack staging areas. This would clearly prevent almost all Arab terrorist attacks on Israel (whether by PLO/Abbas, Hamas, Hezballah or any other evil Fakestinian murder gangs).

(Two additional benefits will be to deal with the ringleaders who make these attacks (Egypt and Arabia know how to deal with their own much much better than Israel does!), and to return those peaceable people (essentially captives now) to their own Muslim societies where they can be free of the PLO, Hamas type gangs and their threats — and where they can make proper lives for themselves.)


22 posted on 05/25/2021 9:14:02 AM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicians are not created, they're excreted." Cicero 2000 years ago)
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To: RandFan

These guys like giving Israel money because that money gets spent in Red districts and states.

As an owner of Raytheon stock, I enjoy the price action. As an American, I wish we could wean ourselves of the MIC.


29 posted on 05/25/2021 9:26:40 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: RandFan

Hard to say considering no one is afraid of McConnell.
Most people don’t know that Nixon saved Israel after the ‘73 war by issuing the equivalent of the “Berlin Airlift” to re-supply their military.

Israel used nearly everything they had to fight back Syria and Egypt.


34 posted on 05/25/2021 9:49:43 AM PDT by Zathras
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There will never be a reason for Israel to negotiate a peace deal if the US keeps replenishing its war supplies.

Iran/Hezbolllah will never stop replenishing Gaza’s war supplies as long as the US keeps replenishing Israel’s.

I think the time has come for the US to close our wallet and get out of the Middle East. We do no lasting good and please no one.

And this is not our fight.

If this thought upsets anyone ... think of it as tough love.


36 posted on 05/25/2021 9:56:00 AM PDT by Right_in_Virginia ( )
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There should be a calls for zero funding for the Palestinian Authority.

As for Iron Dome funding, I am going to put my neck out for a minute, so take your shots or voice your thoughtful opinion.

I had this thought a week or so ago during the height of Hamas sending hundreds of missiles indiscriminately towards Israeli citizens. Note: this only pertains to Iron Dome, and hence Iron Dome funding in this context. My thought involved a little what-if game. What if Israel didn't have the Iron Dome system? The obvious conclusion would be many of those missiles would hit the ground. (Can't really say target.) There would be massively more bloodshed and property damage to Israelis - both Jews and Arabs. Just as Israel did not stand idly by with Iron Dome, you would suspect Israel would actively seek out and destroy targets in Gaza if they didn't have Iron Dome.

If Israel didn't have Iron Dome, would they have been more vigorous in destroying Hamas and the PA? Would they end this conflict once and forever?

While I don't want to see innocent life lost without Iron Dome, there is a side of me that thinks this has become a slow war of attrition, that has already spanned previous decades and it has no end in sight. The losses add up over time. Perhaps without Iron Dome, there is a one-time increase in loss of life in Israel, but it ends the on going conflict for good. That loss of life would be no greater than over the long term. If Israel flattened Gaza, drove the Palestinians into the Sinai, and end this for once and forever, then Israelis could get on with their lives, in peace, and without terror.

In essence, I am wondering if lack of Iron Dome would force Israel to end because their loss of life and destruction of property would be much higher. Would their hands be forced?

A tangential thought is Iron Dome is deep state defense contractor crack. They make money from Israel's Iron Dome addiction. The deep state cares only about one thing - never ending spending. They don't give a damn about Israel, the Palestinians, or peace. They want ongoing war and conflict to make money.

There once was a time in the world, some 70 or so years ago, that wars were won and ended. Add to that, relatively quickly. That doesn't happen anymore. I believe Eisenhower gave us far warning about this, but no one listened.

42 posted on 05/25/2021 10:20:43 AM PDT by ConservativeInPA (“When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty.” ― Thomas Jefferson)
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To: RandFan

I am tired of funding Israel. I am tired of the US funding regime change globally, and trying to leverage other countries to our will. Did it in Ecuador (with IMF help) to further persecute Julian Assange. We’re doing it in Belarus.

The lie that to be Anti-Zionist is the same as being Anti-Semitic will never stop because it gets such mileage.

Look how much mileage the “if you don’t support BLM (Black Lives Matter)1, you are a White Supremacist” has gotten traction in the US and beyond.

Tired of it all.


44 posted on 05/25/2021 11:24:37 AM PDT by sockmonkey (Conservative. Not a Neocon.)
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Dey gotta make dat money.

The Dems and the Pubs are really happy to have that ME conflict flare up again.


45 posted on 05/25/2021 11:28:42 AM PDT by BusterDog
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To: RandFan

Ahhhhhh the socialist nationalist populist and the anti Semites lock arms in berating the Jewish nation of Israel.


46 posted on 05/25/2021 12:01:50 PM PDT by StoneWall Brigade (FReeper Trumpers : our socialism better than their communism wigga wigga trust da plan)
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To: SJackson

Ping


47 posted on 05/25/2021 12:19:45 PM PDT by StoneWall Brigade (FReeper Trumpers : our socialism better than their communism wigga wigga trust da plan)
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To: RandFan

Stop giving Israel military assistance. As an Israeli citizen I oppose it. You want to work on weapons development? Great. That’s mutually beneficial. But you want to keep giving us hand-outs? No thanks. Keep it. You’ll need it for all the stupid projects the leftards are trying to fund.


52 posted on 05/25/2021 1:10:12 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 ("The impossible happens all the time. You just have to believe." Will Robinson)
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To: RandFan

I think we should refill Israel’s rocket stockpile if they pay for it.

I am also in favor of cutting off all foreign welfare. We can’t even pay for our own welfare programs.


69 posted on 05/25/2021 4:35:15 PM PDT by SharpRightTurn (Election Fraud Deniers--Won't follow the science, won't follow the law.)
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To: RandFan

I opposed all aid to the region, not just to Israel.
That changed the Obama Biden treasonous deal to protect Iran’s nuclear weapons program, ICBM program, and give Iran over 100 Billion. We prevented an Israeli strike on Iran. We undermined Israel’s survival.


76 posted on 05/25/2021 10:36:43 PM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers." )
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