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Addressing The "Concern" Posted On Free Republic That Deaths Following Covid-19 "Vaccination" And Published To VAERS Are COINCIDENTAL And Not Useful Indicators of Safety
5/24/2021 | vanity

Posted on 05/24/2021 2:18:06 PM PDT by ransomnote

I began writing a reply to a post in the forum and decided to make it a standalone thread given both the level of effort expended and the frequency I encounter the issue at hand.

FReeper assertion seen in the forum: There are convincing analyses showing that VAERS is only reporting 1/4 of events (including deaths). That’s still almost 4,000 deaths that should be in VAERS, essentially matching what we see in VAERS. If those assumptions are true, it is entirely coincidental deaths. If you take issue with an assumption please specific.

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51% of events published to VAERS [5/21 data] were reported during December and January.  36 million doses of the Covid 'vaccines' were administered during those 51 days. 

Data analyst Albert Benevenidos (sp) used the ratios of adverse event categories (hospitalizations, deaths, office vists etc.) from those records to estimate number of adverse events reported, but not published, by the CDC during the administration of an additional 230 million doses from February to May.

Using that method, Benvidos estimates there have actually been 12,200 deaths and over 1 million adverse events  reported to the CDC, most of which have not been published. That's close to your 14K.

However, based on a Harvard study which found only about 1% of actual events are ever reported to the CDC, he adjusted that figure. Instead of multiplying by 100 to estimate total numbers of  actual post vaccine deaths, he cut that factor to be extremely conservative, as if half of all Covid deaths are reported to VAERS, an impossibly low ratio.

Assuming 1/2 of all post 'vaccine' deaths were being reported to the CDC , the total adjusted estimate for adverse events following Covid 'vaccination' is 610,000 deaths and 50 million adverse events, according to Benevenidos' analysis.

The CDC is not making much of an effort to monitor safety during the purported Covid 'pandemic' or else it would be vigilant in updating and maintaining VAERS promptly. To clear the air, the CDC can easily refute these numbers by uploading the reports it has received but not published.

Also, there are numerous reports of doctors and patients not able to file reports to the CDC. 

How To Report An Adverse Event To VAERS (CDC Database) ONLINE  Following Covid-19 Vaccination 

On the CDC's  'how to' page for reporting to VAERS, the linked table of 'reportable events' which lists the names of vaccines, does not include Covid. That makes sense, at first, because the Covid 'vaccines' are not actually vaccines. However, it certainly must discourage some from reporting their struggles.

So the numbers of reports the CDC is throttled back by challenges the patients face just to file, as are the CDC's decision to publish only a fraction of the reports it receives to VAERS.

And of course, the Harvard research which found only about 1% of actual vaccine adverse events were ever reported to the CDC was conducted was prior to Covid lockdowns which reduced medical and nursing home staff available to file such reports.

Certainly, there are concerns about reports that at nursing homes are under reporting cause of death a level never seen before.

I've heard that we 'must understand' that the most vulerable were vaccinated first and therefore early reports contained a higher proportion of deaths. I don't know if that's true, because based on the conduct of the CDC since the start of the Plandemic, I'm not willing to assume that the CDC is randomly selecting which records it will upload. They could be selectively withholding death reports based on age or other combinations of demographics and instead publishing less severe adverse events.

Remember that reports from December and January are not updated after the patient leaves the ER or hospital, so if those who were surviving during  their ER visit, hospital stay or other event reported to VAERS, but continued a downward spiral and died afterwards, their deaths are not counted.]

Note that the table below does not include records in which a check mark was missing from a specific field in VAERS, but 'death' or 'autopsy request' was typed in the 'event descripton' for the patient.

Also, of the 80 deaths published to VAERS during this time period but classified as vaccine type 'unknown' about half of the 20 I reviewed had text in the description field which indicated they were Covid 'vaccines'. Therefore, some numbers are still under reported in the table below. 



Note that 270 deaths following Covid vaccines published to VAERS are 'unknown age' and are not shown in the table.

There are many complications with poorly maintained data in VAERS which impedes understanding of the impact vaccines may be having on the public. Again, if the CDC would like to clarify these concerns during what they claim is a national emergency updating and correcting data in VAERS, they have the tax payer funds to do so.

The CDC tracks every vaccination carefully, something they would do even if they weren't preparing to roll out vaccine passport mandates.

I believe the NIH/CDC/FDA have the IT and access/infrastructure to match data from other federal or state databases, like US death certificates, with with vaccine records by Social Security Number, if they wanted to. Hospital software tracks annual deaths by type (accidental death versus illness) so surely there are medical databases which could be matched to vaccination databases  - likely both types of data are sitting in the same system(s) right now. 

Do you think 610,000 deaths following Covid 'vaccinations' is an over estimate? Okay, cut it in half. So the estimate becomes 'only' 305,000 deaths following Covid 'vaccination'. Is everything alright now? 

If you think the CDC is concerned, you'd be wrong. Their only concern is concealing this information from the public.


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To: grey_whiskers

“When you announce that you’re a fool... you limit your options.”

As you do over and over.

But where are the liars who claim they’ll support you>?

Gone.


261 posted on 05/24/2021 10:48:25 PM PDT by mrsmith (US MEDIA: " Every 'White' cop is a criminal! And all the 'non-white' criminals saints!")
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

I didn’t say “rent an actress playing a nurse”, troll.

Secondly, if you read the links you posted, and falsely announced that they required getting hit by a bus two weeks later to be reported, ...

That “reporting” only takes place, assuming that the CVS puts the data into an electronic form that emergency room personnel can access transparently within a couple days.

Maybe at some doctors’ offices; and maybe (as someone suggested to me) if the emergency room people treating you after the bus have the time or inclination to pull up your vaccination records to see if you got the jab within the past two weeks.

This would tend to cut down on the number of extraneous injuries you were swearing was contaminating the results in VAERS, if there were any left after people reporting they were turned into the Incredible Hulk.


262 posted on 05/24/2021 10:51:12 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: mrsmith

What planet did you beam down from?

You’re now changing the subject, your last couple of lines weren’t even a respectable non-sequitur.


263 posted on 05/24/2021 10:52:03 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers

When you announce that you’re a fool... you limit your options.


264 posted on 05/24/2021 10:58:58 PM PDT by mrsmith (US MEDIA: " Every 'White' cop is a criminal! And all the 'non-white' criminals saints!")
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

BTW, the European system is searchable for coof jabs.
Maybe while you’re bloviating, you can surf over there and look up the number of reported fatalities which came from being hit by a taxi. (They have over 10,000 fatalities; maybe they include people being stabbed by jihadists being attributed to the jabs.)

Show your work.

And then do the same in VAERS.

You made the claim, and you claim to be on the side of science, and you implicitly lay claim to superior knowledge of these things.

I won’t wait up.


265 posted on 05/24/2021 11:06:35 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: mrsmith
Yes, I suspect you don’t account for idiocy...but still I wonder if the idiots are even paying their way here.

And a slightly less common two-bagger.


266 posted on 05/24/2021 11:12:44 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: mrsmith; grey_whiskers
Cite a comment you consider “bizzaro pro-jabber”.

Ooo, ooo. Let meeeeeee.

Here goes:

Cite a comment you consider “bizzaro pro-jabber”.

Ha. That was easy.


267 posted on 05/24/2021 11:14:28 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: gas_dr
In these cases, there is no doubt that morality was cause by the accident.

That peculiar.

Normally it's immorality which gives rise to "accidents" 9 months later.

268 posted on 05/24/2021 11:20:50 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers; mrsmith
GW, yer not doin' it right. You got to get Mrs. Mith so goldurn pissed off that he won't even direct a cross word your way.

That's how she thinks to avoid the wrath of Bagster the Terrible, Bain of Vax Nation. You must teach her FEAR.

As you can see, it doesn't prevent her from being target practice.

The poor dear thinks she can get away with being the retardo at the party and nobody's gonna say anything.

Amirite, Mith?


269 posted on 05/24/2021 11:23:06 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: grey_whiskers

When you announce that you’re a fool... you limit your options.

Idiots are lining up to defend you.
That should you tell you all you need to know.
But it won’t LOL!


270 posted on 05/24/2021 11:27:23 PM PDT by mrsmith (US MEDIA: " Every 'White' cop is a criminal! And all the 'non-white' criminals saints!")
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To: bagster

I figure I’m doing ok when I have it repeating its posts over and over, since nothing else is sticking.

But I will consider your advice as I sleep.


271 posted on 05/24/2021 11:30:02 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: mrsmith

What’s your IQ, troll? Seriously.


272 posted on 05/24/2021 11:30:32 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers

When you announce that you’re a fool... you limit your options.

Idiots are lining up to defend you.
That should you tell you all you need to know.
But it won’t LOL!


273 posted on 05/24/2021 11:35:36 PM PDT by mrsmith (US MEDIA: " Every 'White' cop is a criminal! And all the 'non-white' criminals saints!")
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To: grey_whiskers

Here’s a longer bit for you:

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/downloads/vaccines/10-things-healthcare-providers-need-to-know-about-VAERS.pdf

It specifically states required multiple times.

The US Code link that I posted was incorrect. It was supposed to be 42 U.S. Code § 300aa–25 - Recording and reporting of information
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/42/300aa-25

That section gives the Secretary of Health and Human Services broad authority to require additional reporting. The reporting requirements are further defined in the EUA for each of the vaccines.


274 posted on 05/24/2021 11:36:31 PM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: grey_whiskers; bagster

It’s got Milli Vanilli syndrome, or the record has a scratch. It keeps skipping.


275 posted on 05/24/2021 11:36:42 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest
ROFL! So you can't even get your "so THERE!" riposte correct.

How exactly like a Troll.

I'll look at the link over the next couple of days.

276 posted on 05/24/2021 11:37:47 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: ransomnote
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2021/05/joseph-mercola/if-youve-had-covid-please-dont-get-vaccinated/

(...)However, May 14, 2021, the CDC announced it will no longer report breakthrough cases unless they involve hospitalization or death,24 which will obscure the actual number of breakthrough cases occurring, artificially driving down rates and making the vaccines appear to be more effective.

The CDC also changed recommendations on PCR tests for the fully vaccinated, which will further drive down the appearance of breakthrough cases by making them less likely to “test positive.”

PCR tests recommended by the WHO used to be set to 45 cycle thresholds (CTs),25 yet the scientific consensus has long been that anything over 35 CTs renders the test useless,26 as the accuracy will be extremely low, with false positives artificially driving up case numbers.

In April 2021, the CDC recommended the CT be lowered to 28, but only for people who are fully vaccinated.27 Under this guidance, someone with a CT of 30 would not be considered to have COVID-19 if they were fully vaccinated, but if they were not, then their test would be “positive.”

This is beyond obvious that they are rigging the system to create data that fit their fake narrative, which is pushing the entire population to get a vaccine they don’t need, will harm or kill them and which will generate tens of billions of dollars in annual recurring revenue for the drug companies.(...)



277 posted on 05/24/2021 11:40:50 PM PDT by SecAmndmt (Aim small, miss small)
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To: grey_whiskers

LOL!

You plead for a FR acknowledged idiot to defend you.

LOL! Plead on!


278 posted on 05/24/2021 11:41:55 PM PDT by mrsmith (US MEDIA: " Every 'White' cop is a criminal! And all the 'non-white' criminals saints!")
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To: grey_whiskers

Why don’t you just skip the first two lines and move on to the third? It’s the one with substance. I’ve been decent with you; be decent in return.


279 posted on 05/24/2021 11:43:27 PM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: All

Paranoia levels not nearly high enough yet! There should be at least 3,500 “died after being vaccinated” reports in VAERS every single DAY!! Step up your VAERS post-vaccine death reporting vaccine concern trolls!!! You are lagging big time!!

-—Just over 7,000 people per day die in the USA on average. 49.4% of the US population (US population ~301,003,000) has been vaccinated for COVID-19 (heavily weighted towards the older age demographic, the most likely to pass away at any given moment). “Excess deaths” now under the average for this time of year....it could be argued that the COVID vaccinations are a “health tonic”!! ;-) -—


280 posted on 05/24/2021 11:44:58 PM PDT by Drago
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