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Covid shot status - Whose business is it anyway?

Posted on 05/21/2021 5:42:30 AM PDT by DrHFrog

Can the learned Freepers explain to me why it becomes anyone's business whether or not an individual has had the Covid vaccine. Certainly, this should be an individual's choice like every healthcare choice. Why is is not a HIPPA violation for anyone, employers, airlines, cruise lines etc to demand to see proof of vaccination (which is in essence a medical record?)


TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: covid; hippa; vaccine
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To: Responsibility2nd

Responsibility2nd wrote: “But those vaccines are APPROVED safe inoculations. There’s no way anyone can argue that Covid vaccines are completely safe. They are not FDA approved.”

Would you take the vaccine if they were fully approved?

Pfizer has submitted for full approval and approval is expected by the end of the year.


21 posted on 05/21/2021 6:19:58 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: Enlightened1
I do not understand why the so called “vaxxed” are so worried about those that choose not to do it? After all they have immunization according to the vaxxed. So they have nothing to worry about.

This was always a primary question in the autism debates.

The "original anti-vaxxers" had concerns that standard childhood vaccines might increase the risk of Autism. Some parents wanted to skip these (approved) vaccines so that their child might be less likely to develop Autism.

Their attitude was "Everyone else is vaccinated. My child is not very likely to get Measles. They don't need a vaccine, because almost everyone else is vaccinated."

The counter-argument was, "Yes, my child is vaccinated. But my child will be put at risk if your unvaccinated child is allowed to attend school. Your child endangers my child and therefore vaccines must be mandated."

Some people pointed out that this didn't seem logical and that people who were concerned about Autism should be allowed to skip vaccines. My memory is that most Conservatives on this board were strongly in favor of the (approved) vaccines being mandated for everyone.

22 posted on 05/21/2021 6:21:59 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy ("I see you did something -- why you so racist?")
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To: DugwayDuke

Would you take the vaccine if they were fully approved?

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I would if I were in a high risk category. Old, obese, diabetic, etc? Yep.

But even if approved, I would not take the vax in the good condition that I’m in.


23 posted on 05/21/2021 6:27:36 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Actual FR Quote: “I ain’t getting no Covid Vaccine. I’d rather get Covid and DIE before I get a jab.)
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To: DugwayDuke
Pfizer has submitted for full approval and approval is expected by the end of the year.

Given the current situation with our government, I think we should really consider worst-case scenarios, beyond the current COVID situation.

Let's say Pfizer has a completely new vaccine. well, maybe vaccine isn't quite the right term. What it does is decrease fertility by 85%. That's the goal. That's the purpose. Pfizer would like it to be mandated so that no one can travel, go to school, work, or buy groceries unless they can show proof of the new vaccination.

The problem, is that it isn't approved by the FDA, so this anti-fertility thing can't be mandated. And then the FDA waves its magic wand and automatically approves it, mandates it, and gives everyone 24 hours notice.

The law has been followed. Everything is great. Population control has been assured. You got nothing to complain about. Right?

My point is that I don't care at all about FDA approval. That could go horribly wrong ((see above). A real Conservative would oppose mandatory vaccines in absolutely any instance.

24 posted on 05/21/2021 6:33:23 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy ("I see you did something -- why you so racist?")
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To: Chauncey Gardiner
I'm with you. I've taken vaccines all my life, and our kids were vaccinated with the usual childhood stuff. In retrospect I have wondered whether some of our older son's issues with ADD and memory are vaccine related. We'll never know.

I haven't gone for the 'rona shots because I've already had the bug and don't want to take an experimental treatment on top of my own acquired immunity. In my immediate family, only our younger son has gone for the shots. He's an adult, and he had the right to make that decision. I pray he'll be OK. His brother is exposed to COVID patients every working day in the ER. He hasn't fallen ill and hasn't sought the vaccine either. Our bodies ourselves.

25 posted on 05/21/2021 6:34:42 AM PDT by Think free or die
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To: Sacajaweau

Was it an n95 mask? If not it’s a joke and doing more harm to yourself with no protection at all.


26 posted on 05/21/2021 6:35:34 AM PDT by for-q-clinton (Cancel Culture IS fascism...Let's start calling it that!)
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To: DrHFrog

Part of the problem with all the anti-vax conspiracies is that they sow fear that somehow all of people’s rights are going to evaporate and that women and children will be hunted down in the street and carted off in cattle cars to be given their covid vaccination or something. Its fear porn.


27 posted on 05/21/2021 6:36:33 AM PDT by BlackAdderess (...and then, what?)
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To: DrHFrog

I don’t mind getting the initial vaccine but then when no one comes back for a booster or follow up shot ? Reality will skin in and the search is on for a more workable, safer alternative.


28 posted on 05/21/2021 6:37:27 AM PDT by erlayman (yw)
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To: Sacajaweau

Don’t trust them how?


29 posted on 05/21/2021 6:38:31 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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People simply won’t want to be around you if you haven’t been vaxxed. The only people who find the anti-vax stance heroic are other anti-vaxxers.


30 posted on 05/21/2021 6:39:14 AM PDT by bhl
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To: Sacajaweau

It was nice going into my Walmart last night w/o that mask!!!!!


31 posted on 05/21/2021 6:40:19 AM PDT by 1217Chic
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To: Sacajaweau

Don’t trust them about what? Stealing your facial identity?


32 posted on 05/21/2021 6:40:51 AM PDT by Jane Long (America, Bless God....blessed be the Nation 🙏🏻🇺🇸)
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To: Renfrew

“they can make getting it a condition of employment.”

And OSHA says you can then sue the beejesus out of your emoyer.

It’s gonna be don’t ask, don’t tell, except for leftist groups you shouldn’t be around anyway.


33 posted on 05/21/2021 6:46:50 AM PDT by Macoozie (Handcuffs and Orange Jumpsuitss)
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To: DrHFrog
Why is is not a HIPPA violation for anyone, employers, airlines, cruise lines etc to demand to see proof of vaccination (which is in essence a medical record?)

Because that's not what HIPAA is for.

34 posted on 05/21/2021 6:49:27 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Enlightened1
Not if it’s an “experimental” vaccine they cannot

Yeah they can.

35 posted on 05/21/2021 6:52:02 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

Nope...

Sorry nice try. Play again


36 posted on 05/21/2021 6:53:24 AM PDT by Enlightened1 ( )
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To: Repealthe17thAmendment

“believe the vaccinations are effective, and they have helped considerably in lowering the number of Covid cases, which has led to recent lessening of restrictions.”

I believe Ava Gardner was the most beautiful woman in the world and is waiting in heaven for me.

Except she really was a hottie!

My statement is as foolish, unfounded and specious as yours.


37 posted on 05/21/2021 6:53:27 AM PDT by Macoozie (Handcuffs and Orange Jumpsuitss)
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To: DoodleDawg

Here watch and learn.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=L1PLs4ijF2w&feature=youtu.be


38 posted on 05/21/2021 7:05:34 AM PDT by Enlightened1 ( )
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To: Enlightened1

“If the mRNA history over the last 20 years is consistent. All you vaxxed will be dead within 2 to 5 years. This is why no mRNA was ever approved by the FDA in the last 20 years.”

That would make Bill really happy. He thinks the world population should only be 20% of the current number.


39 posted on 05/21/2021 7:09:39 AM PDT by Senormechanico
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To: Senormechanico

Exactly!


40 posted on 05/21/2021 7:10:01 AM PDT by Enlightened1 ( )
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