Posted on 05/19/2021 6:20:22 PM PDT by ransomnote
Quote from the video; "The Red Cross says anyone who has received their vaccine cannot donate convalescent plasma to help other Covid-19 patients in hospitals. That plasma is made up of antibodies from people who have recovered from the virus, but the vaccine wipes out those antibodies, making the convalescent plasma ineffective in treating other Covid-19 patients."
"A randomized double-blind controlled trial of convalescent plasma for adults hospitalized with severe COVID-19 found that mortality at 28 days in the treatment arm was half the rate seen in the control arm (12.6 percent vs. 24.6 percent), "
I had read about that early on. Losing antibodies I have spent a lifetime building up was one of the main reasons I would not take the jab. I follow Dr. Zelenko, so might have come from his studies.
From “the horse’s mouth”:
https://www.redcrossblood.org/donate-blood/dlp/coronavirus—covid-19—and-blood-donation.html
"Froctor" is an insult???
Who knew?
I guess we'll have to stop using "FRiends" as well.
I think they all over reacted simultaneously because they don't want people to know natural infection and the Covid-19 'vaccines' trigger different antibody responses. They desperately want people to think they are the same. They don't want people asking questions about why they are not the same because too much of the reasoning for the fake 'vaccine' unravels with that line of thinking.
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That's it - the reason for the frantic attacks on this itty bitty video clip thread.
Note the vax pushers are claiming that natural antibodies are inferior to 'vaccine' triggered antibodies. This is patently false. Verified, highly experienced experts who are independent from the Deep State CDC/Fauci machinery are specifically saying that we shouldn't replace our natural antibodies, which some describe as 'robust', with the one(s) triggered by the vaccine and that we have no control over the latter.
The truth is, our 'natural antibodies' hold up quite well in the real world, and have done so for thousands of years, long-term, with no side-effects. Sometimes we get sick, and then we add medications and treatments, not experimental 'operating systems' (Moderna's promotional material calls their 'vaccine' that) or 'superior immunity in a needle." The push for the vax is a demand we act as if our immune function must be replaced with fake vaccines for life.
Why would anyone assume that a flock of vaccine companies could adequately replace human immune function with a superior, experimental 'shot' on a deadline? They've never come close to that since vaccines were invented.
When awkward questions arise about the vaccines, Fauci et. al. talk down to us, saying, "You have to understand, very little is known about T-cell immunity...." Okay so very little is known but they are sure they've come up with a superior solution to something they don't understand?
The Covid 'vaccine' technology in play has failed to produce a single successful vaccine, or protected a single patient from other CoronaViruses, Hep C, HIV etc. in 16 years of trying prior to THE GREAT EXPERIMENT that is the Covid vax! So they bring a failed product to market, that never made it past animal trials before, and announce it's superior to the natural antibodies sufficiently protecting 99.5% (avg) of the population!
I didn't think anything of it when I saw that the Red Cross didn't want vaccinated convalescent blood, but now I suspect that the FEDS were closing a loophole by cutting funding for that blood. Someone at the Red Cross was 'too candid' and said vaccinated antigens were inferior to natural ones, and then we fell into the spin zone with multiple people making excessively defensive statements as if I actually had said they were superior! Good to know!
Unfortunately, the vaccinated can still give other types of blood which could mean spike proteins could be present. They might consider that a means of addressing those of us who don't want the Covid 'vaccine.'
Vaccine specialist Geert Vanden Bossche said the vaccine would 'wipe out' the robust variety of antibodies and tell the body cells to just produce one kind - the one in the vaccine.
Prior antigens would then be produced in insufficient numbers - he was generalizing when he said the vaccine antigens would replace native ones. They would do so, in his opinion, to the point where a person had a narrower range of antigens from which to draw, reducing their immunity to other illneses.
Vanden Bossche said the vaccine antibodies would 'out compete' the natural antibodies, and that would be true for an unknown length of time. All those who counter the Fauci/CDC narrative say it could be permanent.
I've read statments by pro vax people,"They last 3 days!" or things like that. But that's speculation - it's never been tested or proven. They could last for years, training the body to respond to diverse pathogens with a narrower set of antigen(s). That's partly why Vanden Bossche was horrified that they wanted to vaccinate not only the population, but specifically the children, threatening their immunity from a young age.
Here's a link to Vanden Bossche's video:
A COMING COVID CATASTROPHE [PDF and 1-hour video interview with Geert Vanden Bossche]
While some disagree with Vanden Bossche's theories (e.g., immune escape, which I have seen supported elsewhere recently), sources I have come to respect due to their transparency, and independence from Fauci/CDC are unanimously against the idea of the use of a manufactured spike protein in place of natural immunity.
And lately, I've been seeing more reports that the vaccine spike proteins are toxic in and of themselves, and not in a small way. This makes sense, because according to the Pfizer and Moderna promotional materials, those companies worked with Fauci's NIH to select the spike protein their 'vaccine would produce.
Yes, the screamers say that's a 'filthy lie' and that the spike protein in the vaccine is 'safer', but they've been wrong about everything else so....
My point continues to be that since the 'vaccines' are not based on the live covid-19 virus, but on a genome China created using inappropriate technology, the spike protein in Covid infection is not the same as the spike protein in the 'vaccine.' Them's my 2 cents.
Valleyvet.com is a supplier of ivermectin for horses.
I am tempted to ask them what is the appropriate dosage for a 2-legged “stallion” approximately 17 hands high at the shoulder weighing 175 lb. (One of the reviewers on their product page claims that it tastes pretty good - but I’m SURE he was just speaking for the horses! 😉😉😉)
Sleep, Uncle. Go to sleep. We’ll wake you when we make popcorn. That will be nice, won’t it. Sleeeeep...
You guys may have seen this already, but I found it fascinating.
https://racetoacure.stanford.edu/
Curated Tracker of Treatment & Vaccine Development for COVID-19
Lists all the treatments and vaccines, development status, approval status.
Note that the mRNA is listed under “vaccines” (see the RNA category).
>>>They can’t see post 20. It was pulled by the moderator. It did indeed accuse people of being accessories to murder. Apparently even the mod felt it was out of line<<<
And I saw this post (44), which is still up......
***you are the accessory to murder scaring people that are at high risk away from the vaccine that could save their lives. Fortunately most older folks in this country have been vaccinated and i am seeing a younger unvaccinated crowd in the hospital and ICU now. They thought they were bulletproof and rolled the dice. They found out otherwise
44 posted on 5/19/2021, 10:40:03 PM by Mom MD ( )”***
"At this time individuals who have received a COVID-19 vaccine are not able to donate convalescent plasma with the Red Cross. The Red Cross is working as quickly as possible to evaluate this change – as it may involve complex system updates. Please know, the Red Cross is committed to building a readily available inventory of convalescent plasma to ensure patients battling COVID-19 have all treatment options available to them."
that was in reply to the post calling me and others an attempted murderer
LOL!
It's no secret that the EUA for the injection is dependent on there not being any other treatment available.
That being the case, NOTHING else at all will ever be shown to have any effect on COVID 19 by those pushing the vaccine the most. The CDC is in on it with big pharma and studies by those with a vested financial interest in the so-called *vaccine* are rightly suspect because of the conflict of interest.
There's too much financial incentive involved for big pharma by pushing the injections as treatment to trust their *studies* of other less invasive treatments.
And it's not like pharma's history on drug development and testing, and their history with other vaccines is unsullied.
We're from the government and we're here to help. Just trust us.....
Plasma Only: “Upon vaccination, you should receive a card or printout indicating what COVID-19 vaccine was received, and we encourage you to bring that card with you to your next donation. In most cases, there is no deferral time for individuals who received a COVID-19 vaccine as long as they are symptom free and feeling well at the time of donation. The following eligibility guidelines apply to each COVID-19 vaccine received, including boosters:
There is no deferral time for eligible blood donors who are vaccinated with an inactivated or RNA based COVID-19 vaccine manufactured by AstraZeneca, Janssen/J&J, Moderna, Novavax, or Pfizer.
Eligible blood donors who received a live attenuated COVID-19 vaccine or do not know what type of COVID-19 vaccine they received must wait two weeks before giving blood.”
“Individuals who have received a COVID-19 vaccine are not able to donate convalescent plasma with the Red Cross.
However, these individuals may be eligible to donate other blood products with the Red Cross including whole blood and platelets if they meet other donation eligibility criteria.
The Red Cross acknowledges that the U.S. Food and Drug Administration did update its guidance regarding convalescent plasma donor eligibility related to those who receive a COVID-19 vaccine. We are evaluating the feasibility and timeline to implement this complex update, alongside the evolving hospital needs for COVID-19 patients. Please know, the Red Cross is committed to building a readily available inventory of convalescent plasma to ensure patients battling COVID-19 have all treatment options available to them.
If you have further eligibility questions, please call 1-800-RED CROSS (1-800-733-2767).”
The “headline statement” “The Red Cross Doesn’t want Blood From the Vaccinated” is incorrect/intentionally misleading.
“I am not all about convalescent plasma.”
Nor about cowardice..
What a coward you are.
Last time I looked, you can find the dosage in the Amazon replies or questions section for Ivermectin. One notch(there are 28) on the plunger setting is for 50 lbs. Someone other than yourself may be interested in that.
And therein lies the problem with alternative treatments to the so-called vaccine.
I have seen time and again people refer to how something doesn't help *critically ill* patients.
The point is to keep them from getting critically ill, and the alternative treatments, from everything I have read, need to be used EARLY in the illness to be effective.
Nobody ever claimed that Ivermectin, Vitamin D, or HCQ and zinc would bring someone back who has one foot in the grave from organ damage.
They are never marketed to reverse that kind of damage. They are supposed to keep you from getting that damage in the first place.
It's no different than letting an infection getting to the point of sepsis and then complaining that antibiotics don't work to control the infection. Well, sometimes you get to the point where NOTHING works, and the idea is to not get that far along in the first place.
So claiming that alternative treatments don't work for critically ill patients is really a no brainer and it addressing a point that NOBODY ever made.
Nor does it prove or disprove the effectiveness of the treatment for mild cases when used starting with the intial diagnosis.
I'd certainly rather have the option of starting some kind of HCQ/Zinc or Ivermectin protocol early on in the disease. At the very worst, if they indeed don't work, nothing has been lost. Maybe I'd still get just as sick as if I did nothing but I'd rather have tried than not. Because if it doesn't work, it doesn't work and I am no further behind.
And if it does work, a life has maybe been saved and the long term complications and organ damage likely averted.
But we won't know because they have been prohibited from being used so the EUA could be given to the experimental injections called vaccines.
Sooo...between you and Eddie...which one is the “pitcher” and which one is the “catcher”???
If he changed the title, would you bitch that he changed the title? Because that is the title of the video at Bitchute.
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