Posted on 05/15/2021 11:12:11 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel
So, today my DH got his 2nd Pfizer shot.
He showed me he got a card for it.
I took a close look, and it's not just a card from his employer that administered the shots.
It's a federal-level card issued by Dept. of Health & Human Services (HHS).
Thank you for this post.
Yes- includes the reasons why and the therapeutics approach with their extensive antiviral proprietary agents.
The Polio vaccine was, and is a TRUE vaccine which prevents viral infection (either one the Sabin, or the Salk vaccines). The vaccine against smallpox is another one (using killed virus, btw. Back in the Rev. War days people/doctors incoculated using liquid from under a pox scab on an infected person (living or dead person, also).
These are all true vaccines preventing disease in children who are are vulnerable (ie. truly “at risk”). Not so this “vaccine” which only reduces symptomatic response to infection— to aid people to survive it on their own (and they may or may not).
None of which changes the fact that every vaccine since the 1920s has come with a card to add to your medical records and that the OP is wrong about the card being unusual for a vaccine and somehow a start on a vaccine passport.
Also, the smallpox vaccines pre-WW2-ish weren’t always 100% effective at preventing smallpox for various reasons, but they did reduce the risk of a lethal or disfiguring event per patient to basically zero. Check the history: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smallpox_vaccine
You might also want to look at the Kolmer and Brodie vaccines for polio: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polio_vaccine
Check with your doctor, then. I know as a kid when my family moved states, we had to present the cards given to us by our last doctor to prove immunization in order for me to be enrolled. It was a fairly thick sheaf of paperwork by the time I graduated in the 90s.
Your doctor may have retained the cards, or they may be entered into your electronic medical records. I know that as late as the 2011-2012 period they were still issuing cards if they couldn’t pull up a digital record - somewhere around here are the cards for the immunizations required for travel to some parts of Europe and North Africa; I had to get them for a potential contract involving travel to those areas.
Nope, neither I nor my hubby have ever heard of these things before.
We’ve been around for 50 years and our son for just 13. No one has ever asked for cards, though we’ve never moved since son was born. I’ve been through several MIL contractor classified workplaces and never had to show any such thing, nor received any.
I had a TB shot at college when I couldn’t prove I had one, and they didn’t give me a card.
In 2013 I got a tetanus shot in prep for major surgery at the hospital. No card.
I don’t think this is as mandatory as everyone says.
They’re supposed to issue you a card for your records. You may be the ones that fell through the cracks. Note all the other people talking about it. There are a *few* states where they don’t issue cards by law, but everywhere else it is a thing.
Note this section from the Wikipedia entry on the smallpox vaccine: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smallpox_vaccine
“In the United States vaccination was regulated by individual states, the first to impose compulsory vaccination being Massachusetts in 1809. There then followed sequences of compulsion, opposition and repeal in various states. By 1930 Arizona, Utah, North Dakota and Minnesota prohibited compulsory vaccination, 35 states allowed regulation by local authorities, or had no legislation affecting vaccination, whilst in ten states, including Washington, D.C. and Massachusetts, infant vaccination was compulsory.[74] Compulsory infant vaccination was regulated by only allowing access to school for those who had been vaccinated.[75] Those seeking to enforce compulsory vaccination argued that the public good overrode personal freedom, a view supported by the U.S. Supreme Court in Jacobson v. Massachusetts in 1905, a landmark ruling which set a precedent for cases dealing with personal freedom and the public good.”
Also, FYI:
https://eziz.org/assets/docs/IMM-222School.pdf
“California schools are required to check immunization records for all new student admissions at TK/Kindergarten through 12th grade and all students advancing to 7th grade before entry. Parents must show their child’s Immunization Record as proof of immunization.”
https://www.dshs.texas.gov/immunize/school/school-requirements.aspx
“Documentation
Since many types of personal immunization records are in use, any document will be acceptable provided a physician or public health personnel has validated it. The month, day, and year that the vaccination was received must be recorded on all school immunization records created or updated after September 1, 1991.”
https://health.wyo.gov/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Parent-Guide-to-Imm-Rules.pdf
“What Document(s) Do I Need to Take to My Child’s School or Child Care?Parents must provide schools with a certified immunization record from the Wyoming Immunization Registry (WyIR), a U.S. licensed physician, or a Public Health Authority, or provide another form of evidence of immunity, or an approved waiver.”
Two states I’ve lived in, one I haven’t. There are states that require all paper certificates to be entered into a database - and in fact, no longer issue paper certificates because of their registry - like Tennessee:
“If not using the ICVT, blank or pre-populated forms can be printed from the Registry website (above). The ICVT cannot be used for children who have a medical exemption. Pre-populated Certificates include demographic information and vaccination dates. If the child’s Registry record is incomplete or if none exists, users can update or create a record before printing the Certificate. Fields may be completed by hand.”
I will print my self identification.
Just looked - Maryland has a vaccine registry: https://md.myir.net/rorl?next=/
That’s likely why your son hasn’t gotten cards for prior vaccinations. They issued digital ‘cards’ instead.
The law establishing ImmuNet in MD and requiring its use is Article §18–109 of the Code of Maryland. It dates back to at least 2005.
Know the history— 30 years clinician. The point is— what is a real vaccine by definition? Covid ones as produced, with the exception of the adenovirus model J&J formula—are NOT vaccines- they are ameliorative care for the symptoms of a patient who has been infected.
Therapeutics being far more important than these- “vaccines” that are palliative and ameliorative. Which is why HCQ and Ivermectin, Merck’s antivirals and the known preventative supplementation which defeats the S protein/ACE2 receptor mech. of infection are regimens that should be readily available if not already in hand with the public.
A card for medical files is NOT one that has to be shown to get business service.
This is NOT the 19 teens of primitive idiot medicine- but to listen to Fauci and see people running around with cloth masks which do not filter angstrom size viral microparticles, this is the primitive fear based scaring the populace by Fauci, who should be imprisoned he and his demonrat cronies. Johns Hopkins epidemiology vs. CDC political stooge morons- with the new director a case in point. Politicizing science, in a “modern” age— what monsters these clowns exhibit in their
“professionalism”.
To date, the card issued with any of the COVID vaccines isn’t required to get business service, at least in most states.
-shrug- I took the Johnson and Johnson vaccine.
The card I was issued afterwards still has everything to do with medical records and is not a vaccine passport.
Very important which State one is in. For it is indeed being used by the Michigan nazis, the CA nazis, the New York State and City nazis. And the “woke” corporatists and their liability lawyers. Ironic- requiring a vaccine, and card- for a vaccine that is waivered as to liability.
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