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1 posted on 05/15/2021 6:14:48 AM PDT by rickmichaels
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I left Lowes with 10 2x12’s the other day and a guy walked by and said, “I hope you’re packing. Yer gonna need it.” ;)

Oddly, their price that day for 10 and 12 footers was the same. I only needed 10 and 8 footers, but I also need some four foot lengths. The 12’s actually cost less per foot than the 8’s. Probably should have bought a lot more.


2 posted on 05/15/2021 6:24:31 AM PDT by cuban leaf (We killed our economy and damaged our culture. In 2021 we will pine for the salad days of 2020.)
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The article is a lie. It’s being withheld in a few places to artificially drive up prices, this I’ve seen.

Canfor has closed 6 mills though, which may not open again due to regulations and environmentalists and a few smaller details.

There is an orchestrated attack on everything, not just lumber either. Vehicles, real estate, and other commodities are also prey to this agenda.

I think we’ll see a global government rollout of some kind in the very near future. At the very least there will be a strong attempt. All in the name of global safety and for the economic benefit of all. First they need to put a real hurt on people that haven’t been hurt enough yet by the scaredemic.


3 posted on 05/15/2021 6:25:22 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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I recently sold timber for an amazing price. Lumber mills are craving timber.


4 posted on 05/15/2021 6:25:26 AM PDT by bk1000 (Banned from Breitbart)
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“The combination of the beetles and wildfires have translated into a sharp drop in the amount of timber available annually for harvest, said Susan Yurkovich, CEO of the BC Council of Forest Industries.”


This is not about a wood shortage. They have all the wood they need. It’s stacked up and backed up, waiting for mills to catch up. The bottleneck is the mills, working at partial capacity because of the virus.

i.e. you directly blame the political response to the virus for this. Another of many costs of the lockdowns.

I was going to sell off the lumber on my property, this is how I found out about this.


5 posted on 05/15/2021 6:28:53 AM PDT by cuban leaf (We killed our economy and damaged our culture. In 2021 we will pine for the salad days of 2020.)
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Beetles and wildfires are to blame, uh? From someone named David Rifle who posted this YouTube comment last week:

I’ve seen a lot of people freaking out over the cost of lumber. As a 12 year saw mill worker let me tell you what’s really going on. The mills are not getting the logs to produce at a rate necessary. Not because of trucking of lack of loggers wanting to work. It’s not because of a economic reason as I have heard many economists saying. It’s all due to a fact that environmental groups have held the industry hostage through court litigation. As soon as we get loggers in to harvest a cut, environmental groups run and slap a stop work order. Within a week the loggers are forced to pull out equipment by the courts. Our mill was forced to close down last June because we couldn’t keep enough wood coming in to run. We had 7 million board feet bought that was held up in litigation. Two million already cut and stacked, but unable to be touched. The way the laws are written for environmental suits it’s a guaranteed win for them. We also watched six of these cuts go up in flames about two weeks after the law suits were filed. This is a created situation as it is now affecting the market to this degree. Just a year ago lumber was running about $400 a thousand board feet. Today the price is at $1086 a thousand board feet. It’s a socialist strategy introduced by men to break the industry, don’t let them try telling you otherwise.


10 posted on 05/15/2021 6:40:54 AM PDT by neefer (Because you can't starve us out and you can't make us run.)
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1. I do not believe there is a shortage at all. How can there be a shortage when there is lumber to buy, lumber stacked in retail yards, lumber on trucks moving to market and lumber on trains going the same place?

2. Why is anyone buying lumber or any other building materials now at these prices? Is it that vital that anyone build anything at these prices?

3. This is price gouging. Plain and simple and I won’t play. I blame the consumer for participating in this madness as much as I do the suppliers.

4. Lack of timber? Did it all suddenly get sick of covid and die or something? I don’t believe in coincidence, never have. This is opportunism.

5. I hope I live to see some people choke on their inventory and their over priced houses too. this is insane.


11 posted on 05/15/2021 6:42:10 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Politicians are only marginally good at one thing, being politicians. Otherwise they are fools.)
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We’d rather watch our forests burn than farm them. And what chems are released during burning?


14 posted on 05/15/2021 6:54:56 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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On vacation. Drove across parts of western Oregon. It is not possible to describe the miles and miles of burned timber. At least an hour in the car driving through burned forest. After the fires of last summer there is a lot being recovered, that is as much as possible, but most of it is lost. True to form the Dems blame global warming. They hate people and anything that brings comfort.


17 posted on 05/15/2021 7:18:06 AM PDT by Dennis M.
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Lumber men are probably waiting till Biden’s inflation takes hold. Why sell lumber for last year’s prices when you can get a lot more for it in the next few months!

Even though the dollars will be worth less than last year they will still pay off lots of last year’s bills with cheaper dollars.

A Confederate dollar is now worth far more than a US dollar bill.


18 posted on 05/15/2021 7:19:12 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar ((Democrats have declared us to be THE OBSOLETE MAN in the Twilight Zone.))
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But a shortage of logs to process means that B.C. producers haven’t been able to lead the way to restore stability in the market.


Trudeau? wacko environmentalists? unions?


20 posted on 05/15/2021 7:25:02 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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OSB is up almost 500% since covid.


25 posted on 05/15/2021 8:18:16 AM PDT by Revel
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Canada was hit with the Lumber Perfect Storm. Supply and production is going to move back to the US as Trump had wanted all along.

https://www.sbcmag.info/news/2019/nov/why-lumber-supply-shifting-canada-us-south


27 posted on 05/15/2021 9:05:15 AM PDT by Boiler Plate ("Why be difficult, when with just a little more work, you can be impossible" Mom)
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Weyerhaeuser corporation (WY) owns outright over 10 million acres of US timberland. They have 99yr leases on another 14+ million acres in Canada.

All they do is grow logs, then covert them to lumber in their own saw mills.

I can’t imagine a better stock purchase.


31 posted on 05/15/2021 10:42:40 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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Rumor has it that the gold in Fort Knox is gone and replaced by lumber cause lumber is more valuable.


33 posted on 05/15/2021 12:27:01 PM PDT by Uncle Lonny
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