Posted on 05/14/2021 1:39:07 PM PDT by RoosterRedux
It would seem logical it was the government, except for the fact these things have been seen for so long. I remember a Renaissance painting which featured a flying saucer painted as clear as day in the sky in the background, and a little guy in the corner looking up at it. Then you have foo fighters in WWII, the first war with aviation. Would they have seen Foo Fighters in WWI, or the Civil War, if they had aviation regiments?
I’m not saying it is aliens, or even that that is what is going on here, or that this is not some sort of elite/Cabal/government psyop setting the public up to be manipulated somehow. If it is on 60 Minutes it probably is.
But there may be something interesting out there which looks like this, whatever it is.
This, exactly. The fantastical stories about diplomatic relations with multiple ‘alien species,’ and the stories about reverse engineering ‘alien tech’ at Area 51 is all unadulterated BS. But, that doesn’t mean these things aren’t real. The government knows they’re real and likely has known they’re real for a very long time.
....but they have no idea what they are.
The aeronautical capabilities these ‘things’ possess far exceed not only our own aeronautical capabilities, but exceed the laws of physics as we currently understand them.
If there’s a country out there that has developed this tech, it would be EXACTLY analogous to a country, in secret, having functional space program at the time two French guys took their first hot-air balloon flight in the late 18th century. That’s the kind of technology delta between what whatever these things are and what we’re currently capable of.
Does that sound plausible to you?
I don’t have time to explain when you do not even know the basic fact that the CIA is EVIL!!
I don’t often think about the motives of the CIA per incident, etc.
I KNOW two of their motives always are in EVERYTHING they do is:
1. Appear to be good/”saviors”/etc. in the sight and hearing of the U.S. military and the public. (The CIA is REALLY EVIL INCARNATE/ETC. out of the sight and hearing of the U.S. military and the public.)
2. Appear to be “all knowing”/”all powerful”/etc., which the CIA purports by many ways, including what they have named themselves. For one, naming themselves the “Central Intelligence Agency” automatically implies that they are “all knowing”/”all powerful”/etc. so they are not checked out, etc. by the U.S. military, etc. when the CIA is not in the sight and hearing of the U.S. military. If the U.S. military ever has thought to find out what the CIA REALLY is, the CIA has created a “savior diversion”, etc.
You assume that these things are aircraft. I assume that they are projections of some sort, rather than aircraft. Regardless, it’s guaranteed to be the work of Uncle Sam.
Projections that show up in FLIR, 4thGen NVGs and an assortment of the most sophisticated targeting radar known to man?
Your explanation relies on the willful suspension of the laws of physics.
No, my explanation does not. Radar artifacts are a real phenomenon. In any event, these UFOs are filmed in MOAs and publicized by the U.S. Government—they are obviously created and controlled by us. You can take that to the bank!
These objects are physical. We know they're physical and not electronic apparitions because while they're being visually observed, we have multiple sensor returns that confirm what is being visually observed. Several of these sensors are dependent on physical mass of the object that is being tracked. Last month, the former DNI during the Trump administration admitted (for the first time), that not only do we we have tracking data from ground and air assets, but we also have data obtained from satellite imagery.
"they are obviously created and controlled by us.
I'm getting the sense you don't have much experience in the engineering field. Am I correct?
First, Occam’s Razor is a philosophical maxim, not a law of science...something you learn in engineering school. In fact, it is OFTEN the enemy of the scientific method. This is a topic that has been written about exhaustively particularly in the field of celestial mechanics. Flat-earthers would often resort to Occam’s Razor when dismissing the notion that the earth circled the sun. Physics frequently doesn’t lend itself to the simplest theory.
In any event, you assert that “I would like to believe’ something, but in actuality, I’m not partial to any explanation of these phenomena. However, I don’t dismiss them as man-made simply because I find the alternative objectionable. I don’t know what they are, but based on my understanding of radar and night vision technology (I have an under-grad degree in mechanical engineering and am graduate of the Naval War College), I know what they aren’t: They’re not electronic apparitions. Additionally, based on my understanding of the engineering of flight and our understood laws of physics, I realize these objects don’t represent a generational improvement in current aeronautics, but instead a MULTI-generational improvement in flying machines.
IOW, the technology delta between these craft and our most advanced aircraft is enormous, exponentially larger than any previous leap forward in aeronautics that has ever been made. It’s like the Wright Brothers flying at Kitty Hawk one day, then the next day launching a space shuttle. That’s the kind of improvement that has been captured in some of these videos and radar tracking data.
If these were advanced craft of unknown origin, there is no way the government would publicize them, or allow them to operate in MOAs. This is quite obviously a disinformation campaign by the U.S. Government.
If they wanted to harm us it already would have happened...
Lolz. For the last two-decades, these objects have been visually observed by scores of pilots, hundreds if not thousands of service men and women and have been electronically tracked by dozens of ships, some of which are the most sophisticated on the water. And you think - apparently - that the government possesses the power to keep this all secret...indefinitely?
The government is talking about it because too many credible, career officers have taken the largely unprecedented step of speaking about their experiences publicly. Simultaneous to this, some of the gun-camera and cockpit photography/videography (often taken with the pilot’s personal recording equipment) has been delivered to media outlets.
Nonsense. Please cite source for your claim that “thousands of service men and women” have observed these. We have seen a handful of poor quality FLIR videos released by the Navy, and a few claims, without supporting logs, that odd things appeared on radar.
This is a psyops campaign. Don’t forget that the U.S. Government did the same exact thing in the 1970s WRT the Stealth program...
As I said, these incidents have been ongoing for almost two-decades (at least). In the last 15-years, there have been weeks-long naval exercises off both of our seaboards where these objects were observed every single day and over the course of several years.
Here Are The Navy Pilot Reports From Encounters With Mysterious Aircraft Off The East Coast
Recent UFO Encounters With Navy Pilots Occurred Constantly Across Multiple Squadrons
It's not just one or two pilots telling these stories. Congress has interviewed DOZENS of them, under oath. In addition to the flight crews, who do you think is operating the radar systems on these ships? Do you think it's only one person working the radar in the CIC? Of course not. Each navy ship can have a dozen or more radar operators in the CIC alone. On a carrier, you have flight ops and CIC radar operators. Over the period of time in question, the number of people present during these exercises would EASILY number into the thousands.
Once again: if these sightings were of advanced aircraft of unknown origin, there is NO WAY IN HELL that the U.S. Government would publish videos of them, or allow anyone to speak about them. However, the government is doing the opposite; therefore, publicizing these advances its goals.
It’s not alien spacecraft, it’s a psyops campaign.
I don’t have time to explain
I see, while playing on the Internet you simply don't have the time! Roger that!
I don’t often think about the motives of the CIA per incident
You should because knowing the motive is paramount.
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