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Tucker's Vaccine Skepticism
American Thinker ^ | 8 May, 2021 | Marion DS Dreyfus

Posted on 05/08/2021 4:50:54 AM PDT by MtnClimber

Following a program devoted to a discussion of the “other side” of vaccination, Tucker Carlson came in for a slew of slams, one of which, by Brian Stelter for CNN Business, was titled “Tucker Carlson’s Fox News colleagues call out his dangerous antivaccine rhetoric.”

Carlson’s actual program on reactions, adverse events, various complications including deaths was based on VAERS, a data reporting service.

Trending on Twitter, 7 May, was this:

VAERS and Yellow Card databases show unverified reports of COVID-19 vaccine-related side effects and deaths that can be submitted by anyone, according to the CDC and fact checkers.

VAERS, a standard for doctors and organizations seeking reliable data on adverse events, including deaths, stands for Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System. Even though it has been jointly used for 30 years to monitor post-licensure safety of drugs by both the CDC and the FDA, is not 100% foolproof, in that some adverse events are not reported, thus not included in their database.

All reports are “passive” to the system, neutrally submitted, and are then evaluated via a variety of methodologies and measures by the CDC and the FDA after whatever drug has hit the market. The public is cautioned on relying on the data’s predictive or retrospective reliability: You still won’t know for sure that a particular set of adverse events were “caused” by a particular market entity.

In terms of some figures that are already established, according to VAERS: There are over 4,100 dead in the U.S. from the shots, over 8,000 dead in Europe from the same vaccines, and more than 3,300 dead in Israel contiguous to the jabs in the arm. Worldwide, the data say, there are somewhere between 30,000-35,000 dead reported from the inoculations, or shortly thereafter.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Society
KEYWORDS: covid
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To: ClearCase_guy

I would like to see the statistics on how many people who died supposedly from COVID-19 , especially early in the pandemic, were already in hospice care.


21 posted on 05/08/2021 5:29:01 AM PDT by Freee-dame
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To: ClearCase_guy

If Covid caused Mr. Alt to die prematurely it is a Covid death, even if Mr. Alt had COPD.

Death Certificate

Name of Deceased: Mr. Alt

Cause of death: Covid

Contributing cause: COPD


22 posted on 05/08/2021 5:32:00 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Spok

When medical procedures (vaccines or anything else) emerge, objectively and methodically, from the scientific process, and absent the heavy hand of Big Government and Big Pharma....

Then, and only then, will I put aside my fears and suspicions.

That has certainly NOT been the case with anything to do with Covid19.

We have every reason to doubt whether or not the powers-to-be know what they are doing or that they even have our best interests at heart.

PS - thanks to all of you who have so generously offered yourselves up as human guinea pigs. I don’t respect your rush to compliancy, or your blind trust in Big Government, but at least these vaccines are finally getting the testing they deserve!


23 posted on 05/08/2021 5:33:03 AM PDT by enumerated
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To: MtnClimber

We have a couple of different problems today interrupting attempts to think critically.

One of them is the hyper-partisanship cited in the article which is illustrated by Harris campaigning against “Trump shots”, which then turned into shots advocated by the Biden administration, because the same pandemic was happening and they had the same shots to combat it with.

Another is the amount of conspiracy theories being disseminated by both foreign adversaries trying to undermine the effectiveness of Western shots, as well as the anti-vax movement led in part by radical environmentalist RFK, Jr.

Neither hyper-partisanship or conspiracy theories are helpful.

Hyper-partisanship is a group-thinky disease, I swear.

Conspiracy theories otoh are an adaptation to an environment where there is a lack of transparency. There are many lacks of transparancy in our world today. Some are well-meaning, others are not. One of the well-meaning ones is quashing information about adverse reactions to the vaccines. Like it or not, we do need to plow on and try to make informed decisions regardless of the BS in the public discourse today.

I got the shots, but you had better believe that I tried to find out everything I could about what a bad reaction would look like. If Tucker was trying to inform and not persuade he was doing a good thing. If he was jumping on the bandwagon he was doing a bad thing. Good article.


24 posted on 05/08/2021 5:34:09 AM PDT by BlackAdderess (The way to deal with bad ideas is to go through via critical thought, not around)
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To: MtnClimber

VAERS is a passive reporting system, meaning it relies on individuals to send in reports of their experiences. Anyone can submit a report to VAERS, including parents and patients.

Healthcare providers are required by law to report to VAERS:

Any adverse event listed in the VAERS Table of Reportable Events Following Vaccination that occurs within the specified time period after vaccinations

An adverse event listed by the vaccine manufacturer as a contraindication to further doses of the vaccine

Healthcare providers are strongly encouraged to report to VAERS:

Any adverse event that occurs after the administration of a vaccine licensed in the United States, whether it is or is not clear that a vaccine caused the adverse event

Vaccine administration errors

Vaccine manufacturers are required to report to VAERS all adverse events that come to their attention.

Online reporting is strongly encouraged. Please report clinically important adverse events that occur after vaccination of adults and children, even if you are not sure whether the vaccine caused the adverse event.

The Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) accepts all reports, including reports of vaccination errors. Guidance on reporting vaccination errors is available if you have additional questions.

Knowingly filing a false VAERS report is a violation of Federal law (18 U.S. Code § 1001) punishable by fine and imprisonment.

https://vaers.hhs.gov/reportevent.html


25 posted on 05/08/2021 5:37:05 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: FreedomVsControl

Absolutely—I am a nurse (not hospital based but 30+ years experience) and this is TERRIFYING— no wonder so many of us are now seeking alternative information on treatment and staying well. A family recently had to get a COURT ORDER for ivermectin to treat their family member and then had hard time finding a doctor to administer it. The patient was already on a ventilator because no one provides any early treatment!! It’s abhorrent, unnecessary, scary and cruel. It’s vax OR NOTHING!!!


26 posted on 05/08/2021 5:46:33 AM PDT by dkGba (God Bless America dkGba)
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To: MtnClimber

https://www.statesman.com/story/news/politics/politifact/2021/05/07/tucker-carlson-misleading-claim-deaths-after-covid-19-vaccine-covid/4989132001/

“When evaluating data from VAERS, it is important to note that for any reported event, no cause-and-effect relationship has been established. Reports of all possible associations between vaccines and adverse events (possible side effects) are filed in VAERS. Therefore, VAERS collects data on any adverse event following vaccination, be it coincidental or truly caused by a vaccine. The report of an adverse event to VAERS is not documentation that a vaccine caused the event.”

https://vaers.hhs.gov/data/dataguide.html


27 posted on 05/08/2021 5:47:19 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: pookie18

28 posted on 05/08/2021 5:47:39 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: PghBaldy

These viruses were being being on worked on for gain of function. One thing “researchers”were interested in was how to target groups based on DNA.

***(I am searching now for those articles and cannot find one but I know they existed in the time of Obama)***

Because everyone in charge is lying through their slick teeth about everything concerning this FauciFlu, people are wondering about everything.

Because there seems to be disparate death numbers from the vaccine I am wondering what the victims of government corruption had in common. Is there a DNA identifier in their cells? people that truly died from being sick with the virus itself - same thing. Is there a common thread?

The government may know but they’ll never tell us. I’l keep looking for the old articles.


29 posted on 05/08/2021 5:54:15 AM PDT by CaptainPhilFan ( )
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To: MtnClimber

Ok so Tucker used raw data from the reporting system while lacking the credentials to be able to accurately read that data. That wasn’t a good thing to do. He has a BA from Trinity College so by definition his degree was not in any of the sciences.


30 posted on 05/08/2021 5:54:38 AM PDT by BlackAdderess (The way to deal with bad ideas is to go through via critical thought, not around)
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To: enumerated

“absent the heavy hand of Big Government and Big Pharma....”

Almost all future treatment level medical advances will be through Big Pharma.

Big Government will fund the basic research.


31 posted on 05/08/2021 5:58:02 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: PghBaldy

Or do the vast vast majority of Americans not know about the reporting website in part because the propaganda press either won’t report on it or ridicules it when it does? Harvard study says that less than one percent of bad reactions are reported. Might even say as much on the website.


32 posted on 05/08/2021 6:03:08 AM PDT by Treeless Branch
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To: MtnClimber
one of which, by Brian Stelter for CNN Business, was titled “Tucker Carlson’s Fox News colleagues call out his dangerous antivaccine rhetoric.”

There is absolutely zero doubt in my mind if Trump were still President, Stelter would be attacking the vaccines.

33 posted on 05/08/2021 6:03:14 AM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Brian Griffin

“...and they die not from the shot but because their body conks out.”

Proof? Or speculation?


34 posted on 05/08/2021 6:03:29 AM PDT by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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To: Brian Griffin

Yes, I know that a VAERS report does not mean that a medication caused the event. Not all events are reported either. I am not sure how it can be determined with certainty that some reaction type of event was caused by a medication. Statistics can show probability with large enough sample sizes and close monitoring, but there is no way to do close monitoring on this scale.


35 posted on 05/08/2021 6:05:38 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: MtnClimber

“Petitions Filed
....
FY 2020 1,192
FY 2021 1,690”

https://www.hrsa.gov/sites/default/files/hrsa/vaccine-compensation/data/data-statistics-report.pdf


36 posted on 05/08/2021 6:06:05 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: BlackAdderess
I got the shots, but you had better believe that I tried to find out everything I could about what a bad reaction would look like.

Absolutely. It is foolish to put something in your body without having done so.

37 posted on 05/08/2021 6:06:11 AM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Brian Griffin

“Knowingly filing a false VAERS report is a violation of Federal law (18 U.S. Code § 1001) punishable by fine and imprisonment.”

Appreciate the info, but under this administration? That is laughable!


38 posted on 05/08/2021 6:09:24 AM PDT by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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To: SgtHooper

FReepmail.


39 posted on 05/08/2021 6:15:00 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: SgtHooper

“Proof? Or speculation?”

I am a blogger.

I lack both patient medical records and patient post-vaccination activity records.

Therefore, I can only speculate.

I can not gain access to death certificates because of state and federal law.


40 posted on 05/08/2021 6:15:57 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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