Posted on 05/07/2021 3:18:12 PM PDT by ransomnote
Many FALSELY believe that having a Covid-19 vaccine with a 95% efficacy rate means they have 95% chance of staying healthy, and a 5% chance of getting sick. That would only be true if the often quoted efficacy rate referred to Relative Risk Reduction (RRR).
The Pharma companies, NIH, CDC, Fauci, Biden Administration appear to be satisfied that the public is not aware of what 'vaccine' claims like ‘95% effective’ actually mean.
Absolute Risk Reduction (ARR) would have to be calculated to know the percent reduction of risk of illness following vaccination. I haven't seen any commentary in all the advertising which uses ARR statistics.
To calculate ARR, the % of persons expected to become ill following vaccination is subtracted from the % of persons who would have become ill if they hadn't had the vaccine.
Using Pfizer's data, without a vaccine people have a .93% chance of becoming ill with Covid-19 in the next 2 months (duration of Pfizer’s study).
According to Pfizer, if they have the vaccine, their risk of illness over the next 2 months drops from .93 of one percent, to .05 of one percent (rounded). We don't know how many would have become ill if the study continued beyond 2 months so that theoretical 'protection' has a time frame.
A nice walk through of the math involved is provided by a former math professor who doesn’t have a dog in this fight, he just wants people to understand math because…well…you can take a math professor out of the math lab but you can’t take the math out of the professor.
Prof. Richard Zucker illustrates his point first by walking through calculations for Measles, and then through the same calculations for Covid-19.
Measures of Vaccine Effectiveness - YouTube (17 minute video)
He compares this value with prior Measles vaccinations, in which you would have to vaccinate 1.3 children to protect 1 child from the disease. He shows through his calculations, using Pfizer’s data, 113 people have to be vaccinated to protect 1 person from becoming ill with Covid-19.
(IMAGE BELOW from Professor Zucker's video)
I think the the number of persons vaccinated required to "protect" one person from Covid-19 must be continually increasing, because many have already had Covid-19 and the risk of becoming ill from it is decreasing, and presummably the vaccinated are a little less vulnerable to illness as well. I've not seen any calculations about the percentages of people harmed by the 'vaccines'.
Those pushing for ‘herd immunity,’ and reasoning as if only vaccines can provide immunity, often state that the non-vaccinated are ‘holding us back’. In reality, because the risk of getting Covid-19 to those who have not yet had it is under 1%, the public health benefit of any vaccine of any efficacy rate is also going to be under 1% to those who haven't already had Covid-19.
Those who have had Covid-19 already have antibodies and do not benefit from vaccination, according to physicians like Dr. McCullough, who has worked with a team of physicians who developed a treatment protocol that reduces deaths from Covid-19 among the vulnerable by 85%. You may read about (print out) their medication protocol or watch the first 7 minutes of the video at the link below:
Now the public is being wooed with prizes and treats if they get vaccinated. 100$ savings bonds (WV, for ages 19 to 35), beer, nightclubs, museum passes, and other perks await the vaccine submission.
What's Behind Vaccine Hysteria? - American Thinker
The Yankees and Mets announced the stadiums will once again be open, but the vaccinated will ‘get’ to sit next to each other and the unvaccinated will have to socially distance. Yet we’re talking about a less than 1% chance of illness in the vaccinated section compared with a less than 1% chance of illness in the vaccinated section seated outdoors, all wearing masks.
Continued employment is a perk looming on the horizon. Commerce and travel, all of it tied to less than 1% difference with or without the vax.
Bills GM to cut players who refuse The Vaccine… [Buffalo]
The young and the healthy are likely the dominant demographic in a baseball stadium, so the risk of illness at a football stadium is actually smaller than Pfizer’s 2 month trial data .93% risk. So the benefits of vaccination would be smaller still.
The unvaccinated could get Covid-19 in the next 2 months, and if so, they are likely to recover and if particularly vulnerable (elderly, immune suppressed etc.), can use available treatments which are 85% effective. If those physicians and researchers who claim immunity is lasting are correct, why should those who've already had Covid-19 undergo the compounded risks of vaccination as they receive repeated ‘booster’ vaccination?
Why is there no real risk-benefit analysis in the push to vaccinate everyone with experimental products? The CDC’s documentation indicates boosters will not have to undergo the testing that the initial vaccines underwent.
The vaccines have risks, some of which are unknown and may result in ADE or other autoimmune illnesses. The vaccine trials were too short to tell us if they are safe, for whom, or for how long.
There’s evidence that the ‘vaccines’ promote the production of spike proteins that are themselves toxic to human health, and those vaccinated will not have a way to halt the production of those spike proteins in their bodies. I’ve heard (been shouted at) that the spike proteins won’t endure past a few days, weeks or months, but that assertion is insufficiently tested to promote as fact.
Some trolls gleefully post that the vaccines will likely be reclassified as ‘FDA approved’ within months to reduce the public’s ‘vaccine hesitancy’; not that the ‘vaccines’ will undergo the needed 10+ years of extensive testing for standard ‘FDA Approval’, but that they will simply be ‘reclassified’ for marketing purposes.
Pfizer asks FDA for full approval of coronavirus vaccine (msn.com)
Those trolls brag that once FDA approved, the fake vaccines can then be made mandatory. Imagine the quality of your life if the thought of other Americans receiving experimental vaccines against their will, in violation of their human and Constitutional Rights, made you felt superior and proud.
The Biden Administration will discover that the American public has, can and will say “NO!” to the destruction of freedom in our nation. Every day, more are waking up and seeing through the propaganda.
Vaccine specialists like Geert Vanden Bossche are warning that mass vaccinating a population in the middle of an outbreak, as we are told we are living through for a year now, is expected to lead to the development of stronger strains that we would face had we waited for natural herd immunity and treated the ill instead of withholding FDA approved medications. I hope he and the others saying this are wrong.
Given the hard salesmanship, the stripping of our rights, censorship, the violations of the Nuremburg Code of 1948 regarding informed consent, and threats/plans to institute shunning and steady advancement of vaccine passports, I believe the warnings are true.
I don’t believe the stated reason for the vaccinations, presumably Covid-19, explains the dictatorial grasping manner the Biden Administration is trying to treat us like livestock and ‘have us’ mass vaccinated. These bizarre tactics are not medically driven.
Want more proof?
New study from the UK government predicts 60-70% of future Covid deaths will be of those who had the 2nd shot of vaccines....
Of course we're hearing about 'variants' and the experts don't agree on whether or not our natural immunity to Covid-19 or 'vaccines' will protect us.
There are reasons why vaccination may not provide the benefits to public health claimed by manufacturers, the CDC, Fauci, and the co-owners of Moderna's patent in the NIH.
Italian Researchers: Vaccines Will Not Work Because SARS-CoV-2 Is Also Entering Bacteria (freerepublic.com)
The push for vaccination, 'vaccine apartheid', vaccination passports and vaccination risk censorship is not based on science.
But then wouldn't you gremlins just scream about 'conspiracy theories' and 'without evidence'?
Sometimes its good to lay out the case for WHY you don't trust the government. Dontcha' think?
#FactsMatter
Excellent summary.
Now, what would the odds be that this once in a century virus event would occur 9 months (enough time for full devastation of the economy and fear psyops to keep Americans in their homes) before the certain re-election of Donald Trump?
2 months of protection for your remaining life time of manipulation of your DNA with UNKNOWN side affects. A number of serious side affects are being reported already, not to mention the 4,000+ Americans who have already died from the vaccine. Joe Biden wants to socialize the patent on the COVID vaccines. IMOH: socializing the patent will allow China to make $ trillions on producing them for the rest of the world and for a virus they, China, loosed on the world. China loves Joe Biden and Joe loves China Xi. I surmise that ole Joel will get his cut.
You accused me of being a Biden shill. Don’t drop accusations like that and expect someone not to respond.
Who’s ramming anything? Such drama.......
It was President Trump’s Operation Warp Speed that got us the vaccines and the FDA to grant an emergency use order.
Before Biden was President, Trump’s vaccines were being administered.
Who isn’t respecting your choice?
Best not tell them Gardasil (vaccine for uterus cancer) uses mRNA.
Shhhhhhhh we better keep that a secret or heads will explode.
Thank you for the reply. I don’t agree with you on the vaccine, but I understand where you’re coming from. And I share your general distrust of Washington and concern over the deep state.
You ARE a youngster, aren’t you?
You’re a smarmy fop.
Cute smiley.
Yep. Trump is largely responsible for the good shape we are in today in terms of vaccine availability. It’s a shame some of his supporters aren’t taking advantage of it.
There are plenty of news outlets that clearly prove your grossly wrong:
“The world's first mRNA vaccine has begun its rollout after being produced at unprecedented speed as part of the global effort to end the COVID-19 pandemic. A second one is hot on its heels. The two—one made by Pfizer/BioNTech and the other by Moderna—mark the first time this vaccine technology has been approved for use.”
https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-12-mrna-vaccine-safety.html
“mRNA vaccines: What they are and how they work”
“The technology has yielded encouraging results, but a successful mRNA vaccine has never been created before, which presents new risks.”
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/mrna-vaccines-what-they-are-and-how-they-work/ar-BB14uSTc
Gardasil uses capsid proteins—not mRNA:
Cute smiley.
Cute like ME!
Best not tell them Gardasil (vaccine for uterus cancer) uses mRNA. Shhhhhhhh we better keep that a secret or heads will explode.
He said:
Gardasil uses capsid proteins—not mRNA.
I said:
Ooops!
Winston said:
Now we know why you didn't go to Med school, Fokker.
My post was aimed at some of the obvious shills on this site.
I stated that individuals can make their own decisions about the vaccines. Sadly, there are several posters who take great pleasure in degrading and attempting to badger the non-vaccinated into taking the jabs.
I see nothing wrong with my post.
A couple cherry-pickings from the article.
Let them sink in.
One campaign implies that it could turn people into monkeys.
This builds on a longer, well-documented history of Russia-sponsored disinformation, presumably to destabilize the United States and other democratic countries. The administration of US President Joe Biden has warned Russian media groups to halt their anti-vaccine aggression
Many far-right extremist groups that spread false information about last year’s US presidential election are doing the same about vaccines.
This is the call for a totalitarian purge, using the full force of the US government, based on baldface lies.
"RUSSIA, RUSSIA, RUSSIA." "FAR RIGHT EXTREMIST GROUPS THAT SPREAD FALSE INFORMATION."
They ALWAYS go back to the same playbook.
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1."Nearly one billion COVID-19 vaccine doses have been delivered in less than six months, but anti-vaccine disinformation and targeted attacks on scientists are undermining progress. These threats must be confronted directly, and the authority and expertise of the health community alone aren’t enough to do this."
2."Even before the pandemic, I had a front-row seat to all of this. I have co-led efforts to develop vaccines in programmes, including a COVID-19 vaccine currently being tested in India."
3."Teams of experts, including me, began meeting regularly online to discuss how best to amplify evidence-based messages, deliver public-service announcements and address concerns around COVID-19 immunization."
4."...when I ask for a more direct way to counter anti-vaccine aggression, I’m told, “that’s not our approach; confrontation gives them a platform and oxygen.” In my opinion, this attitude reflects a time when we had dial-up modems. Today, the anti-vaccine empire has hundreds of websites and perhaps 58 million followers on social media. The bad guys are winning, in part because health agencies either underestimate or deny the reach of anti-science forces, and are ill-equipped to counter it."
5. the US State Department and the UK Foreign Office have described how Russian intelligence organizations seek to discredit Western COVID-19 vaccines. One campaign implies that it could turn people into monkeys. This builds on a longer, well-documented history of Russia-sponsored disinformation, presumably to destabilize the United States and other democratic countries. The administration of US President Joe Biden has warned Russian media groups to halt their anti-vaccine aggression, and announced sanctions tied to disinformation and other behaviour, but we need much more."
6."According to the London-based Center for Countering Digital Hate, these are influential groups, not a spontaneous grass-roots movement. Many far-right extremist groups that spread false information about last year’s US presidential election are doing the same about vaccines."
Troll.
There was nothing wrong with your post.
You may disregard anything David Chase says. He is a Faucist troll.
Bus Driver Fights Back pic.twitter.com/t4oAs0yo0p— Steve Inman (@SteveInmanUIC) May 7, 2021
Closed-circuit camera recording of that post in real time.
I love that guy for the last punch.
One to grow on, just in case you didn't understand me.
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