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Check Your Understanding Of The "Efficacy" Claims For 'Vaccines': The Claim "95% Effective" Means A Fraction Of 1% Of The Vaccinated Are "Protected" For 2 Months
5/7/2021 | vanity

Posted on 05/07/2021 3:18:12 PM PDT by ransomnote

Many FALSELY believe that having a Covid-19 vaccine with a 95% efficacy rate means they have 95% chance of staying healthy, and a 5% chance of getting sick. That would only be true if the often quoted efficacy rate referred to Relative Risk Reduction (RRR).

The Pharma companies, NIH, CDC, Fauci, Biden Administration appear to be satisfied that the public is not aware of what 'vaccine' claims like ‘95% effective’ actually mean.

Absolute Risk Reduction (ARR) would have to be calculated to know the percent reduction of risk of illness following vaccination. I haven't seen any commentary in all the advertising which uses ARR statistics.

To calculate ARR, the % of persons expected to become ill following vaccination is subtracted from the % of persons who would have become ill if they hadn't had the vaccine. 

Using Pfizer's data, without a vaccine people have a .93% chance of becoming ill with Covid-19 in the next 2 months (duration of Pfizer’s study). 

According to Pfizer, if they have the vaccine, their risk of illness over the next 2 months drops from .93 of one percent, to .05 of one percent (rounded). We don't know how many would have become ill if the study continued beyond 2 months so that theoretical 'protection' has a time frame.

A nice walk through of the math involved is provided by a former math professor who doesn’t have a dog in this fight, he just wants people to understand math because…well…you can take a math professor out of the math lab but you can’t take the math out of the professor.  

Prof. Richard Zucker illustrates his point first by walking through calculations for Measles, and then through the same calculations for Covid-19.

Measures of Vaccine Effectiveness - YouTube (17 minute video)

He compares this value with prior Measles vaccinations, in which you would have to vaccinate 1.3 children to protect 1 child from the disease. He shows through his calculations, using Pfizer’s data, 113 people have to be vaccinated to protect 1 person from becoming ill with Covid-19.

(IMAGE BELOW from Professor Zucker's video)

I think the the number of persons vaccinated required to "protect" one person from Covid-19 must be continually increasing, because many have already had Covid-19 and the risk of becoming ill from it is decreasing, and presummably the vaccinated are a little less vulnerable to illness as well. I've not seen any calculations about the percentages of people harmed by the 'vaccines'.

Those pushing for ‘herd immunity,’ and reasoning as if only vaccines can provide immunity, often state that the non-vaccinated are ‘holding us back’. In reality, because the risk of getting Covid-19 to those who have not yet had it is under 1%, the public health benefit of any vaccine of any efficacy rate is also going to be under 1% to those who haven't already had Covid-19.

Those who have had Covid-19 already have antibodies and do not benefit from vaccination, according to physicians like Dr. McCullough, who has worked with a team of physicians who developed a treatment protocol that reduces deaths from Covid-19 among the vulnerable by 85%. You may read about (print out) their medication protocol or watch the first 7 minutes of the video at the link below:

COVID Vaccine Killing Huge Numbers, Warns Leading Doctor – Liberty Sentinel [32 minute video] (freerepublic.com)

Now the public is being wooed with prizes and treats if they get vaccinated. 100$ savings bonds (WV, for ages 19 to 35), beer, nightclubs, museum passes, and other perks await the vaccine submission.

What's Behind Vaccine Hysteria? - American Thinker

The Yankees and Mets announced the stadiums will once again be open, but the vaccinated will ‘get’ to sit next to each other and the unvaccinated will have to socially distance. Yet we’re talking about a less than 1% chance of illness in the vaccinated section compared with a less than 1% chance of illness in the vaccinated section seated outdoors, all wearing masks.

Continued employment is a perk looming on the horizon. Commerce and travel, all of it tied to less than 1% difference with or without the vax.

Bills GM to cut players who refuse The Vaccine… [Buffalo]

The young and the healthy are likely the dominant demographic in a baseball stadium, so the risk of illness at a football stadium is actually smaller than Pfizer’s 2 month trial data .93% risk. So the benefits of vaccination would be smaller still.

The unvaccinated could get Covid-19  in the next 2 months, and if so, they are likely to recover and if particularly vulnerable (elderly, immune suppressed etc.), can use available treatments which are 85% effective. If those physicians and researchers who claim immunity is lasting are correct, why should those who've already had Covid-19 undergo the compounded risks of vaccination as they receive repeated ‘booster’ vaccination?

Why is there no real risk-benefit analysis in the push to vaccinate everyone with experimental products? The CDC’s documentation indicates boosters will not have to undergo the testing that the initial vaccines underwent. 

The vaccines have risks, some of which are unknown and may result in ADE or other autoimmune illnesses. The vaccine trials were too short to tell us if they are safe, for whom, or for how long.

There’s evidence that the ‘vaccines’ promote the production of spike proteins that are themselves toxic to human health, and those vaccinated will not have a way to halt the production of those spike proteins in their bodies. I’ve heard (been shouted at) that the spike proteins won’t endure past a few days, weeks or months, but that assertion is insufficiently tested to promote as fact.

Some trolls gleefully post that the vaccines will likely be reclassified as ‘FDA approved’ within months to reduce the public’s ‘vaccine hesitancy’; not that the ‘vaccines’ will undergo the needed 10+  years of extensive testing for standard ‘FDA Approval’, but that they will simply be ‘reclassified’ for marketing purposes.

Pfizer asks FDA for full approval of coronavirus vaccine (msn.com)

Those trolls brag that once FDA approved, the fake vaccines can then be made mandatory. Imagine the quality of your life if the thought of other Americans receiving experimental vaccines against their will, in violation of their human and Constitutional Rights, made you felt superior and proud.

The Biden Administration will discover that the American public has, can and will say “NO!” to the destruction of freedom in our nation.  Every day, more are waking up and seeing through the propaganda.

Vaccine specialists like Geert Vanden Bossche are warning that mass vaccinating a population in the middle of an outbreak, as we are told we are living through for a year now, is expected to lead to the development of stronger strains that we would face had we waited for natural herd immunity and treated the ill instead of withholding FDA approved medications. I hope he and the others saying this are wrong.

Given the hard salesmanship, the stripping of our rights, censorship, the violations of the Nuremburg Code of 1948 regarding informed consent, and threats/plans to institute shunning and steady advancement of vaccine passports, I believe the warnings are true.

I don’t believe the stated reason for the vaccinations, presumably Covid-19, explains the dictatorial grasping manner the Biden Administration is trying to treat us like livestock and ‘have us’ mass vaccinated. These bizarre tactics are not medically driven.

Want more proof?

New study from the UK government predicts 60-70% of future Covid deaths will be of those who had the 2nd shot of vaccines....

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/spi-m-o-summary-of-further-modelling-of-easing-restrictions-roadmap-step-2-31-march-2021

Of course we're hearing about 'variants' and the experts don't agree on whether or not our natural immunity to Covid-19 or 'vaccines' will protect us.

There are reasons why vaccination may not provide the benefits to public health claimed by manufacturers, the CDC, Fauci, and the co-owners of Moderna's patent in the NIH.

Italian Researchers: Vaccines Will Not Work Because SARS-CoV-2 Is Also Entering Bacteria (freerepublic.com)

The push for vaccination, 'vaccine apartheid', vaccination passports and vaccination risk censorship is not based on science.


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To: phoneman08
Q math is much too complicated to understand.

Which is why God invented Qtards.

You're welcome.


21 posted on 05/07/2021 3:57:08 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: Reaganez
Second what the 95% actually means is that vaccinated people had a 95% lower risk of getting COVID-19 compared with the control group participants, who weren’t vaccinated.

"Welcome to Free Republic, where people have been replying without reading the article, for over 20 years."

To calculate ARR, the % of persons expected to become ill following vaccination is subtracted from the % of persons who would have become ill if they hadn't had the vaccine. Using Pfizer's data, without a vaccine people have a .93% chance of becoming ill with Covid-19 in the next 2 months (duration of Pfizer’s study). According to Pfizer, if they have the vaccine, their risk of illness over the next 2 months drops from .93 of one percent, to .05 of one percent (rounded).

22 posted on 05/07/2021 3:58:27 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: gas_dr

all one has to do is look at israel not opening its border to mexico, inviting, and continuing to distribute thousands of “disease carrying invaders” across its country during a “global pandemic” to spot the hypocrisy in your posts...


23 posted on 05/07/2021 3:59:50 PM PDT by heavy metal (smiling improves your face value as well as making people wonder what the hell you're up to... 😁)
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To: Reaganez
Complete and total bovine feces.

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24 posted on 05/07/2021 4:02:24 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: grey_whiskers; tatown

I think you mean Chairman XiDen’s *administration*.

FRocters and Med *experts* as legit as the election was.


25 posted on 05/07/2021 4:05:38 PM PDT by Jane Long (America, Bless God....blessed be the Nation 🙏🏻🇺🇸)
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To: bagster

Dude - I’m trying to figure your point of being on FR - all the fruitcake posts you do is not helping - back off for a while and look at the divide you’re preaching on this forum....

Is that your mission....??


26 posted on 05/07/2021 4:06:01 PM PDT by dakine
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To: grey_whiskers; Reaganez
"Welcome to Free Republic, where people have been replying without reading the article, for over 20 years."

Easy.

Reaganez probly took calculus in High School. You have no idea who you're messin' with.


27 posted on 05/07/2021 4:06:24 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: Reaganez
Second what the 95% actually means is that vaccinated people had a 95% lower risk of getting COVID-19 compared with the control group participants, who weren’t vaccinated.

I'll find the document I saw earlier which indicated that the cycle limit for PCR had been lowered from 40 to some lower number (maybe 25 or 30?) since the cv19vx gene therapy had entered into fairly widespread usage.

Q: Which mega-vaccine stops all viral infection and viral transmission? A: Proper vitamin D blood levels and adequate zinc/ionophore daily intake.
28 posted on 05/07/2021 4:09:49 PM PDT by SecAmndmt (Aim small, miss small)
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To: Jane Long
FRocters and Med *experts* as legit as the election was.

And now the FR Mathletes are climbing outta the woodwork.


29 posted on 05/07/2021 4:10:16 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: ransomnote

Thanks for posting this.

Troll response is telling.

Sheeple are (finally) waking up to this whole PlanDEMic scene.


30 posted on 05/07/2021 4:10:24 PM PDT by Jane Long (America, Bless God....blessed be the Nation 🙏🏻🇺🇸)
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To: SecAmndmt

Stop with all of the common sense ;-)


31 posted on 05/07/2021 4:12:42 PM PDT by Jane Long (America, Bless God....blessed be the Nation 🙏🏻🇺🇸)
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To: bagster

Yes I can do simple math and understand inferential statistics. It’s part of that whole doctorate thing.


32 posted on 05/07/2021 4:14:42 PM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: dakine; bagster
Dude - I’m trying to figure your point of being on FR - all the fruitcake posts you do is not helping - back off for a while and look at the divide you’re preaching on this forum....

Calling another FReeper "dude" is even worse than complaining about signal/noise ratio.
33 posted on 05/07/2021 4:16:57 PM PDT by SecAmndmt (Aim small, miss small)
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To: dakine
Dude - I’m trying to figure your point of being on FR.

The Bagster is well beyond the ken of the slow witted.

You should wait for the movie to come out.

Do you also have a hard time understanding the purpose of the rabid vax pusher bots? Or are you a one way not understander?

Is that your mission....??

My mission is to take you from crayons to perfume.

Those school girl days of telling tales and biting nails are gone,
But in my mind I know they will still live on and on,
But how do you thank someone who has taken you from crayons to perfume.
It isn't easy but I'll try,
If you wanted the sky I'd write across the sky in letters that would soar a thousand feet high,
To Bagster, With Love.

You're welcome.


34 posted on 05/07/2021 4:18:54 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: Jane Long
Stop with all of the common sense ;-)

Common sense only works when the other side is not promoting the scamdemic and vaccine$ for a living
35 posted on 05/07/2021 4:19:03 PM PDT by SecAmndmt (Aim small, miss small)
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To: Truthoverpower

“Vaccine industry is a giant fraud They don’t work and harm a lot of people seriously harm a lot of people”
***************************************************
Yep, the pharmaceutical companies tell you that ibuprofen reduces inflammation. Don’t believe them… they just want your money. If you have painful and dangerous inflammation, treat it with dried, ground bear livers.


36 posted on 05/07/2021 4:22:17 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: gas_dr
Yes I can do simple math and understand inferential statistics. It’s part of that whole doctorate thing.

Of course it is.

Doctors are the ultimate in human development.

#ApexLifeForm


37 posted on 05/07/2021 4:22:46 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: SecAmndmt

?????


38 posted on 05/07/2021 4:24:11 PM PDT by dakine
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To: SecAmndmt
Calling another FReeper "dude" is even worse than complaining about signal/noise ratio.

Hey, wait a minute.

I call people 'dude', and 'bro', and, 'bruh', and 'brah' all the time. And sometimes 'homes'.

Don't throw the baby out with the bath water.


39 posted on 05/07/2021 4:25:08 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: gas_dr

why do you continue to insist on vaccines for our citizens while refusing to answer questions about our government opening the border, inviting, and continuing to distribute thousands of “disease carrying invaders” across our country during a “global pandemic”???...


40 posted on 05/07/2021 4:25:21 PM PDT by heavy metal (smiling improves your face value as well as making people wonder what the hell you're up to... 😁)
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