Posted on 05/07/2021 3:18:12 PM PDT by ransomnote
Many FALSELY believe that having a Covid-19 vaccine with a 95% efficacy rate means they have 95% chance of staying healthy, and a 5% chance of getting sick. That would only be true if the often quoted efficacy rate referred to Relative Risk Reduction (RRR).
The Pharma companies, NIH, CDC, Fauci, Biden Administration appear to be satisfied that the public is not aware of what 'vaccine' claims like ‘95% effective’ actually mean.
Absolute Risk Reduction (ARR) would have to be calculated to know the percent reduction of risk of illness following vaccination. I haven't seen any commentary in all the advertising which uses ARR statistics.
To calculate ARR, the % of persons expected to become ill following vaccination is subtracted from the % of persons who would have become ill if they hadn't had the vaccine.
Using Pfizer's data, without a vaccine people have a .93% chance of becoming ill with Covid-19 in the next 2 months (duration of Pfizer’s study).
According to Pfizer, if they have the vaccine, their risk of illness over the next 2 months drops from .93 of one percent, to .05 of one percent (rounded). We don't know how many would have become ill if the study continued beyond 2 months so that theoretical 'protection' has a time frame.
A nice walk through of the math involved is provided by a former math professor who doesn’t have a dog in this fight, he just wants people to understand math because…well…you can take a math professor out of the math lab but you can’t take the math out of the professor.
Prof. Richard Zucker illustrates his point first by walking through calculations for Measles, and then through the same calculations for Covid-19.
Measures of Vaccine Effectiveness - YouTube (17 minute video)
He compares this value with prior Measles vaccinations, in which you would have to vaccinate 1.3 children to protect 1 child from the disease. He shows through his calculations, using Pfizer’s data, 113 people have to be vaccinated to protect 1 person from becoming ill with Covid-19.
(IMAGE BELOW from Professor Zucker's video)
I think the the number of persons vaccinated required to "protect" one person from Covid-19 must be continually increasing, because many have already had Covid-19 and the risk of becoming ill from it is decreasing, and presummably the vaccinated are a little less vulnerable to illness as well. I've not seen any calculations about the percentages of people harmed by the 'vaccines'.
Those pushing for ‘herd immunity,’ and reasoning as if only vaccines can provide immunity, often state that the non-vaccinated are ‘holding us back’. In reality, because the risk of getting Covid-19 to those who have not yet had it is under 1%, the public health benefit of any vaccine of any efficacy rate is also going to be under 1% to those who haven't already had Covid-19.
Those who have had Covid-19 already have antibodies and do not benefit from vaccination, according to physicians like Dr. McCullough, who has worked with a team of physicians who developed a treatment protocol that reduces deaths from Covid-19 among the vulnerable by 85%. You may read about (print out) their medication protocol or watch the first 7 minutes of the video at the link below:
Now the public is being wooed with prizes and treats if they get vaccinated. 100$ savings bonds (WV, for ages 19 to 35), beer, nightclubs, museum passes, and other perks await the vaccine submission.
What's Behind Vaccine Hysteria? - American Thinker
The Yankees and Mets announced the stadiums will once again be open, but the vaccinated will ‘get’ to sit next to each other and the unvaccinated will have to socially distance. Yet we’re talking about a less than 1% chance of illness in the vaccinated section compared with a less than 1% chance of illness in the vaccinated section seated outdoors, all wearing masks.
Continued employment is a perk looming on the horizon. Commerce and travel, all of it tied to less than 1% difference with or without the vax.
Bills GM to cut players who refuse The Vaccine… [Buffalo]
The young and the healthy are likely the dominant demographic in a baseball stadium, so the risk of illness at a football stadium is actually smaller than Pfizer’s 2 month trial data .93% risk. So the benefits of vaccination would be smaller still.
The unvaccinated could get Covid-19 in the next 2 months, and if so, they are likely to recover and if particularly vulnerable (elderly, immune suppressed etc.), can use available treatments which are 85% effective. If those physicians and researchers who claim immunity is lasting are correct, why should those who've already had Covid-19 undergo the compounded risks of vaccination as they receive repeated ‘booster’ vaccination?
Why is there no real risk-benefit analysis in the push to vaccinate everyone with experimental products? The CDC’s documentation indicates boosters will not have to undergo the testing that the initial vaccines underwent.
The vaccines have risks, some of which are unknown and may result in ADE or other autoimmune illnesses. The vaccine trials were too short to tell us if they are safe, for whom, or for how long.
There’s evidence that the ‘vaccines’ promote the production of spike proteins that are themselves toxic to human health, and those vaccinated will not have a way to halt the production of those spike proteins in their bodies. I’ve heard (been shouted at) that the spike proteins won’t endure past a few days, weeks or months, but that assertion is insufficiently tested to promote as fact.
Some trolls gleefully post that the vaccines will likely be reclassified as ‘FDA approved’ within months to reduce the public’s ‘vaccine hesitancy’; not that the ‘vaccines’ will undergo the needed 10+ years of extensive testing for standard ‘FDA Approval’, but that they will simply be ‘reclassified’ for marketing purposes.
Pfizer asks FDA for full approval of coronavirus vaccine (msn.com)
Those trolls brag that once FDA approved, the fake vaccines can then be made mandatory. Imagine the quality of your life if the thought of other Americans receiving experimental vaccines against their will, in violation of their human and Constitutional Rights, made you felt superior and proud.
The Biden Administration will discover that the American public has, can and will say “NO!” to the destruction of freedom in our nation. Every day, more are waking up and seeing through the propaganda.
Vaccine specialists like Geert Vanden Bossche are warning that mass vaccinating a population in the middle of an outbreak, as we are told we are living through for a year now, is expected to lead to the development of stronger strains that we would face had we waited for natural herd immunity and treated the ill instead of withholding FDA approved medications. I hope he and the others saying this are wrong.
Given the hard salesmanship, the stripping of our rights, censorship, the violations of the Nuremburg Code of 1948 regarding informed consent, and threats/plans to institute shunning and steady advancement of vaccine passports, I believe the warnings are true.
I don’t believe the stated reason for the vaccinations, presumably Covid-19, explains the dictatorial grasping manner the Biden Administration is trying to treat us like livestock and ‘have us’ mass vaccinated. These bizarre tactics are not medically driven.
Want more proof?
New study from the UK government predicts 60-70% of future Covid deaths will be of those who had the 2nd shot of vaccines....
Of course we're hearing about 'variants' and the experts don't agree on whether or not our natural immunity to Covid-19 or 'vaccines' will protect us.
There are reasons why vaccination may not provide the benefits to public health claimed by manufacturers, the CDC, Fauci, and the co-owners of Moderna's patent in the NIH.
Italian Researchers: Vaccines Will Not Work Because SARS-CoV-2 Is Also Entering Bacteria (freerepublic.com)
The push for vaccination, 'vaccine apartheid', vaccination passports and vaccination risk censorship is not based on science.
But I am a doctor of farts. I know what I’m tooting about.
Sorry to hear about your sister. I hope she recovers.
Pure evil occurred and the “cure” is nearly as bad. They’ll do it again. They can’t stop now.
“ Best not tell them Gardasil (vaccine for uterus cancer) uses mRNA.
Shhhhhhhh we better keep that a secret or heads will explode.”
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Another vaccine that doesn’t work and injures/kills people.
I don’t know whether her problems have anything to do with the vaccine or not.....just relating what’s been going on.... especially with the different test results over the course of one week.
You are correct. I was indeed wrong.
I’m only human! LOL Still even after the vaccine.
I misunderstood the function of capsid proteins with RNA.
Your links and rereading other stuff helped lot.
Thank you. I did kind of put that out there to see what others thought.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capsid
I wonder though, if the Gardasil vaccine was the pre-mRNA vaccine we now have. Seems like they’re by-passing the capsid proteins and going directly to the RNA for Covid.
I’m not a chemist, lab rat, or bioengineer. LOL
Have a great day! Thanks again.
My point was two fold.
Trump, not Biden gave us the speedy vaccine.
Also, I’m not seeing anyone badger or coax people into getting the vaccine,
As for myself.......Getting any vaccine or medical procedure is a choice.
I will lose my mind if anyone thinks forcing vaccines is ok. That’s madness and will open a door to some very horrible things. Forced medical procedures for example.
I’m also against any I.D. Or type of “passport” to indicate anyone’s vaccine status. Again, it’s a personal choice.
We will reach herd immunity with the people that already got infected and recovered and with the people getting vaccinated. I have no worries about that.
I will keep a lookout for people being cruel or demeaning to others for not being vaccinated.
What I see mostly is people arguing over information and the interpretation of it.
Have a great day.
There you go again. There is no place for for math in the Scientism faith. /s
I challenge anyone to find a post I made saying people need to get vaccinated or damning anyone for not getting vaccinated.
My activity regarding the Covid vaccines is a search/desire for accuracy and honesty.
The ONLY people I highly recommend should get vaccinated are 70 years of age plus, with Lung, Cardiac or Diabetic issues. That’s it.
You have said 60 plus year olds. Basically the same thing as I said, are you a troll now?
I’m against forced vaccinations and vaccine I.D.s or passports.
If I’m wrong, I admit I’m wrong about something.
I must have flunked Troll school, because my comments and attitude regarding this matter is not remotely Trollish.
If you have painful and dangerous inflammation, treat it with dried, ground bear livers.
I prescribe Vioxx.
Glad to help. I will say your statement surprised me from all I’d heard about mRNA vaccines and my years-old knowledge of Gardasil. I enjoy learning and relearning and you helped me do that.
I understand that! But how do we trust ANYTHING when EVERYTHING has become political, for the benefit of power and control by Democrats?
You always show up on the same threads providing weak covering fire for 2trollprotectstherest,DugwayD_ck,mrs mith, and the rest.
That's all.
Thank you. I wish you a great day.
I enjoy your posts. Keep them going:)
Best not tell them Gardasil (vaccine for uterus cancer) uses mRNA. Shhhhhhhh we better keep that a secret or heads will explode.
Now:
I did kind of put that out there to see what others thought.
I’m not a chemist, lab rat, or bioengineer. LOL
Haven't I been telling you this for weeks, Fokker? Self-awareness is a beautiful thing.
Welcome to reality.
Then you're not paying attention.
I will lose my mind if anyone thinks forcing vaccines is ok. That’s madness and will open a door to some very horrible things. Forced medical procedures for example.
Again, not paying attention. There are many types of 'force'.
I’m also against any I.D. Or type of “passport” to indicate anyone’s vaccine status. Again, it’s a personal choice.
I'm starting to wonder if all your senses work. How are you unaware of the world around you so very often?
I mean, you can read about this stuff right here on FR. You don't even have to leave your mom's basement.
Your mockery and ridicule of 'anti-vaxxer', 'flat earthers' will suffice as you saying they 'need' to get vax'd and 'damning' them.
But you know this.
I shall endeavor to persevere.
And please share how they came to the 95 percent conclusion.. Did the vaccinated and unvaccinated control group live in a big house together during the study? Did one or both groups where masks? Did one group go to work and another worked remotely? Were they intentionally exposed to the virus? Do tell!
And how often were they tested for Covid during the study and which PCR Test settings were used?
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