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Court Upholds City's $30,000 Fine for Florida Man's Overgrown Lawn
AP ^ | 4/30/2021 | Staff

Posted on 05/03/2021 3:54:01 PM PDT by simpson96

A federal court has upheld a Florida city's decision to issue nearly $30,000 in code violation fines to a homeowner whose grass was overgrown.

Following a two-year legal battle, a judge from the Middle District of Florida ruled this week that Jim Ficken, 71, will have to pay the fines to the city of Dunedin, the Tampa Bay Times reported.

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1 posted on 05/03/2021 3:54:01 PM PDT by simpson96
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Cruel and unusual.
2 posted on 05/03/2021 3:57:16 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Trump: "They're After You. I'm Just In The Way")
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To: simpson96

Someone must want the property cheap.


3 posted on 05/03/2021 3:58:42 PM PDT by PAR35
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Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.”


4 posted on 05/03/2021 3:59:46 PM PDT by rdl6989 ( )
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To: simpson96

When people say they want more government so they can control their neighbor’s property, this is what more government looks like

The 5th Amendment is dead in Florida, as well as most other states.


5 posted on 05/03/2021 4:01:17 PM PDT by Trump.Deplorable
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To: rdl6989

This is not a constitutional issue. You sign your life away when you join an HOA, and part of the $30K is going to be attorney and late fees. He should have coughed up $50 a week for a gardener.


6 posted on 05/03/2021 4:02:45 PM PDT by ready2brd
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OK, though this is absurd, I don’t see how the guy let it go this far. Get out the edger and trim the damn lawn!


7 posted on 05/03/2021 4:02:53 PM PDT by Michael.SF. (Never do anything illegal, when you are doing something illegal.)
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He was ordered to attend an August 2019 Code Enforcement Board hearing, but he missed it because he was in South Carolina to manage another issue with his mother’s estate, he said. The board voted on Sept. 4, 2019, that the fines would stand.

The martinets on the CEB should be publicly shamed.


8 posted on 05/03/2021 4:04:05 PM PDT by Flick Lives (“Today we celebrate the first glorious anniversary of the Information Purification Directives.”)
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He could use a better lawyer and some landscaping volunteers. Not much is stated about his background or circumstance. This dispute has been going on since 2015, so the stubborness of the accused may figure into it.
What we have here is a classic power struggle.


9 posted on 05/03/2021 4:04:50 PM PDT by lee martell
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did the city mow it for him when he was out of town or unable. 71 is not as young as he used to be... He should have hired someone to mow and keep it mowed. Wonder what his property is worth now? City or someone “important” may want it... cheap.


10 posted on 05/03/2021 4:04:56 PM PDT by DOC44
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Oooooh. The grass got over 10 inches. Oooooh.

I hope one day everyone who thinks this guy deserves a $30,000 fine is treated in like fashion.


11 posted on 05/03/2021 4:07:10 PM PDT by Seruzawa (The political Left is the Garden of Eden of Incompetence - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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OMG I remember when we DID NOT have to wear seat belts, could smoke AT WORK, little by little they have encroached on EVERY DAMN freedom and responsibility of governing ones self!! The only damn thing they care about is killing babies THEN it is your body your choice!!! Young people today have no idea what it is without government telling you how to live!!!


12 posted on 05/03/2021 4:09:00 PM PDT by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: DOC44

He may be on a very fixed income WHY IN THE HELL didn’t a neighbor step up and help him GEEZE!!!


13 posted on 05/03/2021 4:10:28 PM PDT by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: simpson96

While this man’s plight is entirely plausible based on what we are seeing here, I’m going to tell you from first-hand experience that this isn’t necessarily the way it played out.
Until you have had the neighbor from hell who is never at fault for anything, you don’t really get it.


14 posted on 05/03/2021 4:10:32 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there..)
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To: ready2brd

I don’t think he is in HOA.


15 posted on 05/03/2021 4:10:47 PM PDT by Dalberg-Acton
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To: Michael.SF.

OK, though this is absurd, I don’t see how the guy let it go this far. Get out the edger and trim the damn lawn!

City wants his property!!!! overgrown lawn is bad but 30,000 dollar bad??


16 posted on 05/03/2021 4:12:42 PM PDT by tallyhoe
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“The 5th Amendment is dead in Florida, as well as most other states.”

The COUNTY judge ruled against the city. The case was moved to the FEDERAL court.


17 posted on 05/03/2021 4:13:45 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: simpson96
This was posted a few days ago and I actually looked up the case. This is fake news at its worst.

This guy was not living in his house but did not arrange for lawn mowing. He was cited and told if he violated again he would be considered a repeat offender and subject to higher fines.

There is a long trail of dog ate my homework excuses, but the guy violated again. Florida law gives him the right to a hearing, which he did not attend. Florida law gives him a right to appeal, which he did not excercise.

So, he waited two years and filed a federal lawsuit claiming due process clause and excessive fines clause violations. Federal courts do not hear zoning code appeals.

He lost the due process claim because he was obviously given notice and a hearing and a right to appeal.

He lost the excessive fines claim because he did not meet the criteria set out by the Eleventh Circuit precedent.

One would think the city might have cut the fine back to something more affordable. But, reading between the lines it seems he really cheesed off the city code people by repeatedly ignoring them and failing to appear at more than one hearing.

18 posted on 05/03/2021 4:14:05 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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he dindunuffin to Dunedin


19 posted on 05/03/2021 4:14:54 PM PDT by A strike ( Barr to Gitmo, Fauxi to Florence supermax, Roberts to Terre Haute)
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To: Trump Girl Kit Cat

“I remember when we DID NOT have to wear seat belts, could smoke AT WORK” And; didn’t need to wear helmets when we rode our bikes, and we could ride in the back of the pickup. AND, as kids we could go to the park without our parents. Sheesh, what have we given up?


20 posted on 05/03/2021 4:16:20 PM PDT by mistfree (Fear Destroys Freedom)
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