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NYC schools chancellor calls for end to elite school test as Asians dominate
NY Post ^ | 29 April 2021 | Selim Algar

Posted on 04/29/2021 6:05:48 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT

...fuming about new admissions data that showed Asians dominating the controversial test once again

Asians comprised 53.7 percent of those admitted, whites 27.9, Hispanics 5.4, and African-Americans 3.6.

Others also note that many of the immigrant Asian groups that predominate at the eight schools come from low-income backgrounds rather than privilege.

Only 8 of 749 offers — or one percent — went to Black students,

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


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To: Safetgiver
Eradicated. Fixed it for you.

You are so right. Thank you!

41 posted on 04/29/2021 10:20:52 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: buwaya

If we compare schools individually, yes. But, the greater the number of school buildings, the greater the overall cost has to be.

Those who do well at the “elite” schools now would do well in their neighborhood schools, too.


42 posted on 04/29/2021 10:59:16 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: Tired of Taxes

But school systems are scaled to capacity. If a city has an “elite” school for 2000-3000 kids (a Lowell(SF) or a Boston Latin or a Stuyvesant(NY)), that is one less high school the district needs to maintain.

It is important to separate out the kids who can do more, and better, because one can much more easily give them more And giving them more is no-cost; the teachers may be specialized a bit, but are not more expensive. Teachers compete to teach in these schools, because they are not combat zones and because it is much more pleasant to teach bright children. Accelerated math, more foreign languages, etc.

Putting these kids in schools where the teachers see themselves more as prison guards and spend most of their time dealing with the worst means the best are largely left to teach themselves. And moreover the lack of compatible peers means there is no incentive and no competition among the best. They can drift along, easily doing the minimum, or worse, get influenced into foolishness and bad attitudes by the destructive zietgeist. Kids and teens are very vulnerable to their peer groups. A genius among a herd of animals is very likely to copy the animals.


43 posted on 04/30/2021 2:10:13 AM PDT by buwaya
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To: DUMBGRUNT

How about the immigration of able and driven Asians?


44 posted on 04/30/2021 3:25:48 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: simpson96

Now that you bring it up, isn’t it a bit surprising that we don’t know, at least, of trans players in the WNBA?


45 posted on 04/30/2021 3:27:21 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: simpson96

Could Asians be passing the tests because they are really space aliens? Yes they could be!


46 posted on 04/30/2021 3:45:13 AM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: DUMBGRUNT

When test after test tells us the same thing, it’s time to take the tests seriously.

Giving America’s #1 victim group extra points on tests and subtracting points from Whites’ and Asians’ test scores is a deliberate denial of reality. Plus it’s illegal and unconstitutional.


47 posted on 04/30/2021 4:05:41 AM PDT by I want the USA back (American media: complicit in the destruction of this country. )
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To: Pikachu_Dad

Re:
It’s not the schools, it is the parents…
It is not the parents, it is the broken family…
It is not the broken family, it is the oppressive divorce/marriage rules that the democrats set up.

Yes, but it is much broader than that.
ITS THE CULTURE.

What happened to to teaching kids to aspire to always be, for instance:

Trustworthy, Loyal, Helpful, Friendly, Courteous, Kind, Obedient, Cheerful, Thrifty, Brave, Clean, and Reverent?

That is just one summary of what out Judeo Christian culture taught us.

“YOU SHALL LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, AND WITH ALL YOUR SOUL, AND WITH ALL YOUR STRENGTH, AND WITH ALL YOUR MIND; AND YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.”

We the people have unwittingly allowed the rot of
Me first,
If it feels good do it,
The ends justify the means,
and so on, become pervasive.

I do not know the solutions. I can only pray for guidance and try to guide my kids, and kid-lings, to the best of my abilities.

[rant - OFF]


48 posted on 04/30/2021 4:16:59 AM PDT by John Galt's cousin (We pray: "Lord, please help us save our democratic Constitutional REPUBLIC...Amen")
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To: John Galt's cousin

cite: https://biblehub.com/luke/10-27.htm


49 posted on 04/30/2021 4:24:12 AM PDT by John Galt's cousin (We pray: "Lord, please help us save our democratic Constitutional REPUBLIC...Amen")
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To: buwaya

—”Those that need remedial and special ed are expensive.”

Are they ever!

And it gets worse.

Not far from me is the school that set the precedent in the courts, requiring mainstreaming disabled children.

One child can easily require two or more aids...
And totally disrupt a typical classroom.


50 posted on 04/30/2021 5:46:50 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message.)
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To: 9YearLurker

—”we don’t know, at least, of trans players in the WNBA?”

IMO, A fake female would be the end of WNBA.

And given time will also kill most women’s sports.


51 posted on 04/30/2021 6:14:44 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT
Can't have more gooks than schvatzas! The tests must be racist.

ML/NJ

52 posted on 04/30/2021 6:41:34 AM PDT by ml/nj (DITCH MITCH !t)
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To: ml/nj

Not sure I would state it quite like that???

If your idea of a test involves a ball, you may have wasted the time needed to prepare for this test.


53 posted on 04/30/2021 6:58:48 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message.)
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To: buwaya

NYC’s 9 “elite” high schools have about 15,000 students total (as of five years ago). NYC has about 500 other public high schools. So, if those “elite” schools didn’t exist, each of the other high schools might have 30 additional students (a relatively small number), but NYC would have 9 fewer school buildings to maintain.

Sure, placing the top students into programs that challenge them is a good idea, but why is that “our” responsibility as a society? Parents who want a better school can send their kids to private school. If they can’t afford private school, then homeschool. A motivated kid will do well anywhere. These kids really don’t need all the extras.

But, as long as NYC keeps selecting some kids for the top schools and leaving other kids in the “bad” schools, this issue will be a contentious one.


54 posted on 04/30/2021 6:41:02 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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