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welp there goes the new deck..
1 posted on 04/29/2021 5:11:29 AM PDT by mylife
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So the author's point is that the lumber industry collapsed after the 2008 real estate market collapsed, and has never restored the production capacity it had before then ... and Obama should have pursued a larger "stimulus package" to flood the market with even more money to keep the industry afloat.

Sorry, folks -- I'm no fan of Obama but I'm not blaming this on him. The U.S. housing market had been overbuilt for a long time before 2008, and subsidizing builders and lumber producers with cheaper loans and more money is only going to end in disaster.

2 posted on 04/29/2021 5:16:21 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("And once in a night I dreamed you were there; I canceled my flight from going nowhere.")
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I started building a new chicken house and sorry I did. Can’t quit 1/2 way through. Roof tin was delayed 2 weeks and by that time the siding will be even higher.


3 posted on 04/29/2021 5:16:23 AM PDT by oldasrocks
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Bkmk


4 posted on 04/29/2021 5:16:38 AM PDT by sauropod (Chance favors the prepared mind.)
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A lot of our lumber supply is stuck in Canada - the idiot PM has the borders jammed up and shipments not moving in or out.


5 posted on 04/29/2021 5:18:30 AM PDT by EC Washington
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“The only way to deal with this problem sensibly is to keep running the economy hot so that new supply can come online to catch up with demand.”

All booms are followed by busts.

The bigger the boom (1920’s), the bigger the bust (1930’s).


6 posted on 04/29/2021 5:18:54 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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I live in timber country in North Idaho. The lumber mills around here are running at maximum capacity and have huge piles of dimensional lumber and sheet goods waiting to be packaged and shipped. There is a steady stream of loaded log trucks on the road. I suspect it is the accursed middle men who are jacking the prices up. I’ve been buying boards from “mini-mills” for various projects. When you buy a 2x6 from them it is truly 2” x 6” and is much stouter than the stuff you get at Home Deport for 3X the price.


8 posted on 04/29/2021 5:22:06 AM PDT by 43north (Its hard to stop a man when he knows he's right and he keeps on comin'.)
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prices went crazy during gulf war II


9 posted on 04/29/2021 5:22:17 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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Metal wall studs?

Composite decking?

I’ll go out on a limb and guess that most all building materials are historically expensive.


11 posted on 04/29/2021 5:23:21 AM PDT by CodeJockey (Dum Spiro, Pugno)
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Here in my area of the Mon-Valley,SW Pennsylvania,there are a lot of 19-29 thousand dollar fixer upper houses. In the last few years they were being snapped up and flipped. Now they are just sitting. When your building materials prices have almost tripled,(even if you can find lumber)that sure puts a bite in your profit.


12 posted on 04/29/2021 5:23:24 AM PDT by 4yearlurker ("My brain has a mind of it's own!"-what my 8 year old granddaughter told me.)
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And my wife is pushing hard to build a new house because she’s sold some land, but it’s not gonna be enough. Yikes!


14 posted on 04/29/2021 5:27:57 AM PDT by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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Had to rebuild some of our box gardens last week - six 8' 2"x8"s cost 100 bucks.

Damn - no wonder housing prices are way up, who can afford to build a new one?

16 posted on 04/29/2021 5:29:44 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("You'll never hear surf music again" - J. Hendrix)
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Lumber is expensive right now, this is true, but blaming Obama in 2021 is just a nonstarter.

Blaming Obama for high lumber prices by saying it was his fault for not throwing massive heaps of our tax dollars at the lumber and housing industries in 2008... which led to Obama losing that ironclad control of all three branches of government in 2010... which then led to an unremarkable economic recovery... which of course led to Trump, who was of course just the worst thing ever... just may be the worst of all possible takes.

The subtle lede in this article is that if you’re mad that lumber is expensive, you’d better get all the way on board with unlimited government spending (and control, the author is eager for the government to not just subsidize the lumber industry, he’s quite happy with the government telling people what to build as well) because accepting the realities of an economic system and possibly waiting a year to put that new deck in is going to lead to republicans getting elected.


17 posted on 04/29/2021 5:30:55 AM PDT by jz638
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I just checked our local Lowes. Top Choice 2-in x 4-in x 8-ft Douglas Fir Lumber (just a std. 2x4) is $6.12 and... out of stock.

Holy crap!


21 posted on 04/29/2021 5:35:10 AM PDT by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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welp there goes the new deck

I built a 8X16 platform for 2 8x8 sheds I have last fall. A friend pointed out this article yesterday and I still have my material list with last fall's pricing. The original price was $1,032,tax included; the reprice for same material from same supplier is now $1,487.
24 posted on 04/29/2021 5:37:22 AM PDT by ratzoe
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I built a project last month that should have been maybe $200 in wood. It was $700.


32 posted on 04/29/2021 5:49:43 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm up! They Have!)
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Nobody is working anywhere, the government stipend exceeds many of these jobs.


33 posted on 04/29/2021 5:49:54 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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Niece and nephew paid for lumber for a new house, but then prices went crazy and now lumber company refuses to deliver at the price they locked in.
They seem to have no recourse and are at a stalemate.

Crazy times.

35 posted on 04/29/2021 5:54:48 AM PDT by Manic_Episode ( “Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue.”)
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The Feds have closed the forests for the last 50 years leading to short supply and monster forest fires.


37 posted on 04/29/2021 6:36:05 AM PDT by bray (Hating Whites is racist)
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This is supply and demand in action.

Scarcity of a commodity will always increase the price of that commodity (if it is in demand).

This represents an opportunity for an entrepreneur to find a way to produce lumber more cheaply and gain market share by providing this commodity at a lower price point.

41 posted on 04/29/2021 6:48:18 AM PDT by SamAdams76 (By stealing Trump's second term, the Left gets Trump for 8 more years instead of just four.)
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There has been a war waged against logging and lumber since the 80’s. What did we expect would happen?

Why is lumber so expensive? Why are there so many forest fires? Twits


46 posted on 04/29/2021 7:13:37 AM PDT by walkingdead (We are sacrificing American youth's future on the altar of our own fear. And it is a travesty.)
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