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mRNA 'vaccines' a terrible experimental history in which they never made it past animal trials until Covid-19. In prior mRNA research 2005 and 2012, all cats injected with a platform mRNA 'vaccine' developed antibodies. When exposed to the virus, all cats died. The ability to trigger anti-body production is not sufficient to calls something a 'vaccine' since pathogens also trigger that response.

mRNA never succeeded as HIV, Hep C or other Corona virus vaccines. That's why the mRNA technology has never been FDA approved; it failed.

There have been mRNA mouse studies - they exposed the mice to SARS-1 and then sacrificed (killed) the mice to examine their lungs. Despite 'vaccination', the mice had infected lungs.

SO these 'monkey' trials are cited as proof that the experimental Covid-19 'vaccine'   is finally proving mRNA technology is safe for humans and works to protect against Covid-19. There's just so much wrong with this assertion, where to begin....

8 Rhesus macaques were given a high dose of the 'vaccine' and 8 were given a low dose of the 'vaccine'. The vaccine developers chose one of the dose levels to move forward with, meaning 8 macaques are standing in for the safety of the entire world's popuation if they used the same dose on humans, but why would they? So the macqaque study is irrelevant and all involved knew it.

8 subjects of any speciies is statistically inadquate sampling. Even if that had been tried on 8 unfortunate humans at each dose, and then used that dose on people, humans have too many variations in their response to drugs/'vaccines' etc. to make any claim that '8 is enough.'  

Further, Covid-19 is not available as an isolated sample  (also here and here) which would be required to test exposure to it, right? They used a slurry they 'think' has Covid-19 in it but they don't know as theirs contains a mixture which is likely one or more straings of  influenza and a variety of other materials.

Moreover, the 'test' for Covid-19 does not detect the presence of what researchers claim is the Covid-19 virus (see same 3 links in above paragraph). So it's unknown whether or not the animals had or did not have what the researchers claim is Covid-19 because they weren't testing for it. They could observe symptoms of influenza or other, but wouldn't know what it was. They could have tested for the flu, but given theirs is not mere incompetence, but is instead the weaponization of science against the public, I don't believe they would.

So the macaques were exposed to some version or other of Corona virus or maybe none at all. It turns out rhesus macacques never really become severely ill from SARS-1; their symptoms are mild and they recover completely. That's why they chose this type of primate. If SARS-1 was present in their slurry, it may be that 2 days is not long enough for the animals to display symptoms.

So you have researchers using a fake PCR 'test' and an unidentified slurry they claim, but can't prove, conatains at least 'some' Covid-19 - do you see the problem here. They are lying. The vaccines are China's biowarfare so I'm not surprised they claim their tiny little sample of macaques did well for TWO WHOLE DAYS following infection! That's right! When known adverse effects usually settle in at the 3 to 6 month mark, the Moderna team tested the macaques 2 days after exposure to the sludge sample and declared it a success.

For more about the inadequate trials for the mRNA's now being Phase III tested on the world, click the link:

ADVERSE EFFECTS OF MESSENGER RNA VACCINES An Evidence Review from the Penn Medicine Center for Evidence-based Practice


1 posted on 04/24/2021 3:33:34 PM PDT by ransomnote
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To: ransomnote; admin

Dear Admin, I accidentally posted a date instead of the title for this article, which is:

Monkey Data Support Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine
— Prevents disease, perhaps transmission too in preclinical tests

If possible, could you update the title? I apologize for the error.


2 posted on 04/24/2021 3:35:11 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: ransomnote

So they use animals to test it? Why is there no uproar from PETA?


3 posted on 04/24/2021 3:38:50 PM PDT by Mercat
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“ransomnote: I’m frequently told that the Moderna Vaccines proved safe and effective in animal trials...”

1). There are no trials in animals. There are only trials with humans.

2) there is no safety determined in animals. Safety is only determined in clinical trials.

Animal studies are pre-clinical research or studies. Safety is not determined but toxicity is assessed which provides information for designing the human safety trials.


4 posted on 04/24/2021 3:42:23 PM PDT by ifinnegan ( Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: ransomnote

Well, so much for the canard that the mRNA vaccines were never tested in animals.


5 posted on 04/24/2021 3:46:13 PM PDT by House Atreides (mil)
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Many many prototype vaccines fail in animal testing and never make it to human testing. This really is no big deal. This particular study assessed vaccine efficacy in monkeys. Before that, no doubt, countless rodents were given the vaccine and their immune responses assessed. No one ever takes prototypes synthesized in the lab and proceeds directly to testing in monkeys, since monkeys are expensive and the animal welfare laws for handling of monkeys are very strict. They test in cell culture, then in small animals. By the time they are ready to test in non-human primates, they already have volumes of data on the prototype's effects and can anticipate the results in monkeys.

And in every case, the Covid-19 vaccines were tested in humans during clinical trials.

What is your interest in trying to scare people about vaccines, anyway? Do you share the belief that fighting infectious disease caused human overpopulation? Do you share the anti-vaxxers goals to scare enough people away from vaccines that infectious disease will once again kill half or more of all people, thereby "solving" the problem of overpopulation?

7 posted on 04/24/2021 3:59:42 PM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org)
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To: ransomnote

https://www.thehealthyamerican.org/religious-exemption-card

18 posted on 04/24/2021 4:52:40 PM PDT by Pollard
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To: ransomnote

Whenever I see a post that claims the virus causing COVID-19 hasn’t been isolated I significantly reduce my confidence on any claimed or referenced research results or medical recommendations.

To each their own.


21 posted on 04/24/2021 5:51:13 PM PDT by !1776!
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You need to be banned from here due to your controversial and adversarial position on THE “vaccines”! ;-)


31 posted on 04/25/2021 3:27:47 PM PDT by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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