The CDC Says No Isolated Samples of the Covid-19 Virus Are Available. The Development of Covid-19 Vaccines Based

3/25/2021 | Vanity

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According to the CDC, no isolated samples of the Covid-19 virus exist. The image below cites a July 2020 document but researchers continue to say their requests for isolated samples are denied because they are "unavailable". This limitation probably harms the race to develop drug treatments, leaving the field open to vaccine makers.

I've been wondering how the vaccine developers are creating their mRNA for Covid-19 if they don't have isolated samples. Perhaps the quote from the article below answers my question.

The tiny tweak behind COVID-19 vaccines
cen.acs.org ^ | SEPTEMBER 29, 2020 | Ryan Cross

"On Jan. 10, Chinese scientists uploaded the genetic sequence of a novel coronavirus, later named SARS-CoV-2, to an open-access website, GenBank.

SNIP

A few hours later, Barney Graham woke up and saw the sequence. Though it was a Saturday, he got right to work.

Days before, his lab at the US National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) had partnered with the biotech company Moderna to design an experimental vaccine for the virus, which causes the disease COVID-19. All they’d needed to start was that sequence."

I wonder if China uploaded the  genome to the biowarfare agent (Covid-19 virus) they released in order to help us develop a vaccine to protect ourselves from it. 

Personally I believe that China's biowarfare agent is likely the combination of  both the Covid-19 virus and the vaccines being created based on the genetic sequence they gave us.

Both the SARS-CoV-2 and vaccine mRNA have access to the reverse transcriptase enzyme, both of them can ‘upload’ their genetic sequence to the DNA (Modify the DNA to include their own images.

COVID-19 News: Harvard And MIT Study Alarmingly Shows That SARS-CoV-2 RNA Integrates Into Human Genome With Varying Implications

I think China may have outsourced biowarfare. I have wondered about some of the mRNA trials in the US leading up to the planned-demic.

[thecodont]

The 2005 patented mRNA technology was originally targeting vaccines for HIV and Hep C and another Corona Virus. Since 2005, they’ve never succeeded in making an mRNA vaccine that worked, that’s why there’s no Hep C or HIV vaccine. And yet, they claim to have done so for Covid in 6 months.

Pharm/bio companies like to repurpose their products, don't want to let their research investment go to waste. Sometimes the product can be effectively and safely repurposed, but not always.

[bagster]

Removing someone because you don’t agree with them or you don’t like what they say is indeed censorship.

That's not what he's suggesting, deceit boy, and you know this.

He recommends you be wished into the cornfield because of the cyber crime of (classical) trolling, of which you have been found guilty in the posts above.

Plenty of people say things somebody 'doesn't like and don't agree with'. Happens all the time. That is human discourse.

You, on the other hand, are a cyber criminal and need to be voted off the island, only to be rebirthed in another form, like Gandalf the Black.

[bagster]

When I pen my biography...

"My Life as a Derp State Internet Shill"
(forward by his mama)
Author: David Chase
Random Derp Publishing
Order now.

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Pharm/bio companies like to repurpose their products, don’t want to let their research investment go to waste. Sometimes the product can be effectively and safely repurposed, but not always.
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I’m saying they appear to be claiming to have overcome in 6 months challenges to mRNA technology they still haven’t overcome for HIV and Hep C after 16 years of trying.

[bagster]

Pen whose biography? A biography of oneself, would be called an autobiography (q.v.)

Not as smart as he thinks he is, is he?

#SemiRetarded

[grey_whiskers]

Trust Vapid Cheat.

[bagster]

According to my FitBit.......this convo is cutting into my much needed nap.

The old fit-bit/nap surrender trick.

Seen it a million times.

More likely the masters are pulling this train-wreck of a shill. Speaking of, did you see Bitt's video of the fake president's fake news conference with commentary dubbed in?

This is that.

The masters are not pleased with Chase's performance.

[thecodont]

Yes, that does strain credibility.

[grey_whiskers]

MP: HOW MANY DEAD WITHIN 3 WEEKS OF VACCINE?

HANCOCK: I THINK we know and IF I have numbers let’s CORRESPOND PRIVATELY.

WATCH HIM SQUIRM AND STUTTER.

WAKE UP. #vaccination #COVID19 #vaccine #VaccineDeath pic.twitter.com/kDQye9PIuk— NoRisk_NoReward (@noreward_norisk) March 26, 2021

[bagster]

I guess you must've then, because Qtard was merely the logical continuation of a previous gem, "Birftard".

The practice of attaching 'tard' to any word as a form of derision was first recorded in ancient Egypt when scrolls were unearthed in which Pharoah had used the word 'Jewtard' in describing Moses.

You can google it.

I knew Pharoah. Pharoah was a friend of mine. You, sir, are no Pharoah.

[humblegunner]

Pharoah had used the word 'Jewtard' in describing Moses.

Thieving eye-make-up wearing Egyptard ripped it offa my Scots ancestors.

[Just mythoughts]

I have no financial stake in any pharmaceutical company, nor do I work for any government. But thanks for the baseless accusation. My interest is in truthful information being available to people and combating fearmongering lies so we can get the Trump vaccines rolled out and get back to normal. I want life to be back to normal. I'm tired of masks and I'm tired of lockdowns.

If you 'believe' the vaccine is the route to 'freedom' of movement, you have not been paying attention.... Fauci is a never ending drama of the 'scientists' providing cover to the politicians, controlling economies as if they were overnight high priests of a global religion. I might give an ounce of credibility IF you would post exactly what your profession literally is ... YOU sure do seem to show up on every pro vaccine thread posted.

[Magic Bullet]

The CDC only made a cell culture of ONE PATIENT, its a mix of many biological materials, not purified, ie never did a density gradient, its not a biologic isolation. BEI Resources sells many Sars Cov 2 so-called isolates, but they are unpurified cell cultures (I asked them, did you?). Neither Metagenomic study nor EM photos tells you what is really in a mix of soup.

The first case was ONE PATIENT from Wuhan, whose lung wash had a metagenome analysis. This is based on a few primers referencing a data base filling in most of the rest of the genome from a computer generated database RNA sequence, easily fudged, and sent to a gene bank that day with a lengthy complex paper by Zhang et al sent for publication in 2 days (really?) to Nature. Metagenomics are only supposed to be done only on well-characterized organisms, and the NOVEL corona virus is not one of these.

This gene accession number was then used as the template for the PCR (see FDA pcr manual that stated no isolates were available), and the Pfizer etc vaccines (see on line FOIA requests stating the vax was not based on the RNA of an isolated virus from a living patient). See, the head of the China CDC also said the problem is the virus has never been isolated.

So the test finds the same genome its based on, because thats how its programmed. Now, lets just vax 8 bil people based on this baseless data with mRNA made to a spike protein the computer made up, just coincidentlly also maps to a placenta protein.

There cant be an isolate to find or purify because then the whole narrative of the virus and later mutations, PCR, and Vaxes, would fall apart. Thats why there are many papers doing cell culture, metagenomic or PCR testing, and EM photos but NO DENSITY GRADIENT purification. Do you get whats happening?

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Do you get whats happening?

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I get, and have been getting, fragments of what’s happening.

I’ve been narrowing down through research the edges but don’t know the core. I said at the very start that I believed the ‘virus’ was to drive us to willingly accept the biowarfare agent.

I’ve read those who say it doesn’t exist at all, but there are research papers saying it exists and has certain properties. And Wuhan sent sick people from the area to spread it when it was first announced, and President Trump responded by closing the borders.

I don’t know if that meant the spread is in fact very limited and it’s not that contagious, or that the WUhan gambit was to spread the fear of the virus, instead of an actual definable genome we could prove they bio-engineered (basis for war).

I’ve adopted the hunch that it exists but is not prevalent and most ‘cases’ are false positives or flu.

Your information helps, particularly as it contrasts with that of a troll who gave a supposed timeline of isolation.
https://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3945205/posts?page=93#93

I never trust his information, I know it’s wrong, but I don’t have links - your information is helpful.

I have a link to an article saying the virus genome was released by China around Jan 10, and the Moderna vaccine engineer saw the genome and ‘got right to work’ because that’s all he needed.

I’ve got a link of an article from Fauci wherein he’s amazed that we were able to start Phase I trials only X number months after we ‘got’ the genome (and those months tally with China’s release of the genome).

I’ve said this is China’s vaccine for China’s virus and they wouldn’t give us an authentic genome. I’ve said the vaccines aren’t vaccines and aren’t based on the actual virus, but yours information (FOIAA) is the first time I’ve seen more than my deduction.

Trolls scream particularly loud when I call the ‘shots’ China Vaccines based on China’s Genome - they shriek I’m a laughable liar and that the genome release by China was followed up by extensive isolation by numerous researchers in the US.

Trolls shriek that everybody who wants one has an isolated sample can get one unless they are incompetent, and that these have been available for months. I don’t have expertise in this area or I would know whom to call to check, how to identify these supposed ubiquitous samples.

Yet I see doctors and researchers saying no such isolate samples exist. I have a meme from July 2020 with a quote from the CDC saying no isolated samples are available. But I haven’t had info since that July marker.

Your information can help refine my thinking. I’ve seen an online virologist and others insist the virus doesn’t exist but I’m not sure if they are defying the CDC to PROVE it by supplying samples, because it seems ‘something’ exists somewhere.

I’ve said Covid-19 isn’t where people says it is (fake pcr) and isn’t what people says it is etc.

I’ve wondered if the mRNA is the virus or another biowarfare virus.

Now the ‘something exists’ may be propaganda to drive fear to take the real biowarfare agent - the vaccine.

I have a link to MIT/Cambridge research that supposedly identifies chimeric DNA following Covid-19 infection.

I have a link to research that says the vaccines also ‘imprint’ on DNA.

I made a post detailing a possibility of what could happen if both research papers were accurate:
https://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3946519/posts?page=59#59

I saw a paper by someone President Trump had previously quoted (clergy) who said it is not possible to make a vaccine based on a genomic sequence (no live sample). This makes sense to me but I don’t know if it’s true. The shriekers have said that it’s done all the time, but I’ve found an article published late 2020 saying maybe we should start doing so to save time (cya, in my opinion)

I know the PCR is invalid and thus the research it was used to ‘validate’ has to be invalid, by definition. I doubt they ever did human trials or if so, on the scale claimed. Instead, I think they pocketed the money.

This way there won’t be as many people displaying adverse reactions. They may have paid people to claim they were in the trials so they’d have peeps to display as ‘not harmed’.

So I know it’s propaganda and I believe it’s likely much of the mRNA research done in the US starting 2005 was to refine this biowarfare agent against western populations. Early research said the virus was less harmful to Asian populations; that research was quickly scrubbed.

So people claiming to have isolated samples and displaying research likely are paid by China.

I know the medical establishment has been weaponized. It seems ‘good’ medical people are too fearful to speak up because most with sufficient background would know the PCR is not valid and is useless, most would warn against the ‘vaccines’.

So yes, I ‘get’ that this is a farce and I’m trying to prove it but I have gaps in my knowledge. Could you supply me with any links you have handy regarding isolated samples or anything else that might assist me?

[Magic Bullet]

You are thinking of lots of stuff that has value but are peripheral and secondary to the kernel, you just didnt follow the scientific paper and document trail that is actually a train of cars connected on the same track, and this is what you need to do first. I myself, got all these train cars from others, then I put them on the track to show its part of one train and made some simple calls and sent some simple emails to get info from the places themselves.

They say they have used metagenomics to sequence (by a co called Illumina) the sample of sludge (lung wash) they say they got from patient one in Wuhan. Nature paper:
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2008-3
This paper at top says it was submitted on Jan 7th 2020 and was accepted on Jan 20th 2020-only 9 business days later.

A later paper in March in Cell (published just to repeat the story of the first paper),
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32220310/
says:“Fortunately, next-generation metatranscriptomic sequencing enabled us to obtain a complete viral genome from this patient on January 5, 2020”.
Looking at the dates, they wrote up the Nature paper and submitted it and a gene accession no to a gene bank within 2 days. I personally suspect this paper is just written up and not real because this long paper must have been written in advance, and it is the first train car in train that all the others must follow because they made the gene sequence as the base.

The entire PCR and then the Vax genome was determined from this ONE CASE based on the same gene accession no. The FDA said there were no isolates available in its PCR spec paper, the Chinese NIH Head said on video “we did not isolate the virus”, and Pfizer replied to FOIA requests the genome it uses as base for the Vax did not come from an isolate from an infected person? I omit the links here as they are easy to look up yourself.

To determine the exact pathogen, and where any lab would be able to INDEPENDENTLY reproduce isolation and confirm the pathogen claims and vax makers contents are appropriate, we need an isolate where the whole genome can be sequenced and the isolates can be shown to be from patients with similar pathology, and that these PURIFIED isolates can cause the same histologic changes in tissue cultures (preferably in humans or an animal similar to a human as study in humans is an ethical problem-not to mention that vaccinating the entire world with an experimental vaccine is a much bigger ethical problem), but there are no purified isolates....

Metagenomic problems:
1. Metagenomic sequencing of a mixed sample uses primers and then fills in the rest of the genome “in-silico” meaning in a computer program (i.e. on paper) based on a gene library (this is the part that can be fudged). Now you can get any sequence you like and set your PCR test based on the genes in that which may actually cross-react with other things (see links in my posts above).
2. Because of this, Metagenomic sequencing is only supposed to be done on organisms that have already been well characterized. How can a novel Corona be well characterized? Scroll to the image on the left about 1/3 way down from this top link:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/biochemistry-genetics-and-molecular-biology/metagenomics
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41564-019-0637-9

So now you can have labs reproduce cell cultures and define the pathogen based on a metagenome, and/or a PCR based on the metagenome now matched to the gene library you have yourself made up. If there were purified isolates on the market or reproduced independently then the whole story would crumble because the fudged part leads to faulty PCRs and vaxes that can have mRNA or DNA that leads to certain effects that would not be in a virus but could be in a genome you make in silico. Nobody makes isolates because there is no virus to make an isolate from, its just a positive PCR test or metagenome primers looking at a bunch of gook or cell-cultures you can buy that will lead you to the same place in the gene bank that you made up to begin with, and now you can make variants in-silico, and on and on.

BEI Resources makes and sells a few dozen covid “isolates”. I asked them if they isolated and purified the viruses, they replied the isolates are only cell culture lysates. Bacteria and fungi are usually killed off. Mix of viruses are left. If you use PCR on these you will of course find Covid because that’s the only place on the map the pcr leads.
Maybe they have other corona’s in them for the E-M photos and to detect primers that lead to the gene bank for sars cov 2, this part is my conjecture.

Reply from BEI Resources, biggest US maker of so called isolates:

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None of these products are really purified. Each of the virus strains are provided as cell lysate and supernatant. They definitely will not have been separated into density gradients and this is not something we would have tested for during the course of the normal QC and Authentication testing for these items.

Walter Usener
BEI Resources
Customer/Technical Services
Administered by ATCC
10801 University Blvd
Manassas Virginia, 20110-2209
Email: Contact@BEIResources.org
Phone: 800-359-7370
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They also told me they have no info on anyone who ever isolated and purified the virus from these cell cultures that only have inactivated viruses they say. Now you know that the word ISOLATE can be corrupted to any meaning you want.

Metagenomics is the bionic man of genetics, Part biology (but can still be faked), mostly made from silicon.

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I really appreciate your taking the time to help me understand.
I'm going to have to read your response a few more times to improve my understanding.

In reviewing the mRNA research, I got the impression that they reached a certain point of development with a lot of momentum, purportedly excited about the potential of T-cell immunity etc., and then paused to wait for Hillary to take office to unroll the fake planned-demic.

I beieve all these materials and 'discoveries' have been on ice since 2017.

I see that you note the initial nature article was accepted on 1/20/2020 (Biden's inauguration)- I believe it was supposed to be accepted 1/20/2016 (Hillary's inauguration).

I could see that they created a self-referential system (e.g., fake PCR can 'say anything' and research could say 'anything' and lockdowns could be based on 'anything', vaccines etc.) but I've wondered about the coordination.

I wondered who/how it was coordinated so that live samples would never be used. I could see that the US CDC/NIH was working with China, 'waiting' for the genome from them, agreeing not to isolate it in the US.

But then I've seen supposed research detailing the nature of the 'virus' and wonder where 'it' is. Do you think there is an 'it' to isolate? I see research like this and think someone is looking at something isolated, if you can actually find chimeric DNA.

Could mRNA Vaccines Permanently Alter DNA? Recent Science Suggests They Might.

The Defender ^ | 4/8/21 | Children’s Health team

Posted on 4/8/2021, 3:37:15 PMdelta7

So that could be real research or China could have awarded these guys a press packet and prestige.

I wrote something that basically makes the case that an invalid PCR means invalid drug trials and suggested the trials and 'results' are faked. (The logical argument that Fauci, Moderna, Pfizer and others may have fabricated fake Covid-19 vaccine trials and reported falsified data (freerepublic.com))

All the talk of Covid-19 prions and mRNA prions makes me wonder if they want to push a 'prion' (mad cow) 'vaccine'. We're they're petri dish and they aren't done yet. But if there is no 'it' then the prions are part of the fear psyop.

Would be interested to know if there's something actually at the bottom of the stack of dirty laundry or it's all just dirty laundry the CDC, NIH, China are pushing around.

Again, thank you for the information (both of your posts). Much to consider and a clear picture is likely beyond my capacity to understand.

[Magic Bullet]

There are no purified isolates as per the info I sent you. Making the genome artificially is necessary to dictate whats in the PCR and Vax, then to make-up the mutations, there is no need for any real virus in order to change the label of other respiratory illnesses to Covid via positive PCR-which conveniently cross-reacts with flu, RSV, and Adeno-and all the subsequent policies and we know that have been implemented, and a real virus would not be useful to manipulate the pcr and mutation story etc.

The lab-made story put out by Trump and others seems like a scary psy-op to distract from the in-silico and un-scary real story. I can not rule-out the in-silico story along with a real lab-made virus, but then again there should be purified isolate which there is not so it doesnt seem likely

The Theranos debacle was a plan in this vein, to see how much of the population would just believe a “test”, and maybe to get DNA samples.

For the socio-political underlying causes, you can see the Great-Reset, the Lockstep document, the Plandemic Indoctrination vid on bitchute,and the list of preparatory pandemics: dark winter, clade X, Spars 2025, Event 201, the Corbett Report (esp Gates documentaries), nomorefakenews.com (as you got your post from), and infowars.com (see End Game documentary). I cant guarantee what all these persons say is correct but they have lots of good info not on the MSM.

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Thank you! I have read most of the documents you refer to (thank you for posting so I can catch ones I missed) and know this is a planned-demic, but wanted your insight re the virus as it contributes to my thinking around how many in the medical community know this is fake.

It does track with the flu, and once designated 'covid-19' then a patient is stripped of the right to all treatment. Robert Kennedy Jr. makes a convincing case that the flu numbers are mostly padded with pneumonia to push the flu vax.

And so the flu vax has been one of many 'vaccines' also used to harm human health. I don't think it's a coincidence those who had the flu vax are 36% more likely to get 'Covid-19'.

Many thanks for your time and patience. I appreciate your information.

[Jan_Sobieski]

Magic Bullet, what do you think of the 2012 Coronavirus Vaccine study showing the vaccines only result in vaccine induced immunopathology?

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0035421

[Magic Bullet]

Sorry I havnt done a deep dive on that but read the abstract. Looks autoimmune. Not sure how much that may have been a trial run for Covid vax, but it was soon after Lockstep was written in 2010. Covid has had many trial runs, some are open like I noted above, some are secret Im sure.