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Electric Cars?
email from friend | 4/24/2021 | unknown

Posted on 04/24/2021 3:53:39 AM PDT by sodpoodle

Don't rush to buy an electric vehicle.

Can we show a little forethought and practicality?

Has anyone thought about it? If all cars were electric ... and were caught up in a three hour traffic jam with dead batteries! Not to mention, that there is virtually no heating in an electric vehicle.

And if you get stuck on the road all night, no battery, no heating !!!

You can try calling 911 to bring women and children to safety! But they can not even come to help you since all roads are blocked! And when the roads become unblocked no one can move! How do you charge the thousands of cars from the traffic jam?

Same problem during summer vacation departures with miles of traffic jams. This will make cars run out of "fuel" and cause never ending traffic jams.

But that, nobody talks about, of course!


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To: polymuser; katana
"Oh wow, man. You’re like, a buzzkill, with all that reality stuff."

I was thinking Oddball from "Kelly's Heroes".


41 posted on 04/24/2021 5:21:46 AM PDT by moovova (Yo GOP....we won't forget.)
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To: Getready

“Don’t forget the difficult to put out battery fires that occur every so often.”

I have a neighbor here in Florida who bought his dream car...an electric Porsche. $90K+...and keeps it outside in his driveway because he’s afraid it’s going to burn his house down.


42 posted on 04/24/2021 5:27:15 AM PDT by USAF1985 (An armed population is a polite population...)
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To: Getready

I understand that the computers will use electricity while the car is standing still in the traffic jam, but the car will not go dead in three hours from running the computers. My Tesla certainly would not.


43 posted on 04/24/2021 5:29:34 AM PDT by dinodino ( )
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To: TwelveOfTwenty

We were energy independent until Biden took office. Permian has trillions of BOE. We could tell world to go hang. Swamp doesn’t want that.


44 posted on 04/24/2021 5:36:43 AM PDT by NotQuiteCricket
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To: sodpoodle

“Has anyone thought about it? If all cars were electric ... and were caught up in a three hour traffic jam with dead batteries!”

Electric vehicles use virtually no battery when not moving, so they could sit in a traffic jam for days and not lose much range at all, just like a golf cart.

“Not to mention, that there is virtually no heating in an electric vehicle.”

Not true whatsoever. Plus there is no emissions from running an engine at idle to provide heat.

“And if you get stuck on the road all night, no battery, no heating !!!”

All disproven above.

“You can try calling 911 to bring women and children to safety! But they can not even come to help you since all roads are blocked! And when the roads become unblocked no one can move! How do you charge the thousands of cars from the traffic jam?”

Fear-mongering at its best. I guess you are not responsible enough to make sure your car has sufficient charge before heading out?

“Same problem during summer vacation departures with miles of traffic jams. This will make cars run out of “fuel” and cause never ending traffic jams.”

Again, electric vehicle uses basically zero battery power when not moving. You are more likely to run out of fuel sitting in a traffic jam.


45 posted on 04/24/2021 5:40:54 AM PDT by adamjeeps
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To: USAF1985
“Don’t forget the difficult to put out battery fires that occur every so often.”

And every electric vehicle traffic accident may require an emergency services HAZMAT response.

46 posted on 04/24/2021 5:43:14 AM PDT by dznutz
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To: sodpoodle

Not to mention the gigantic cost of increased sized transmission lines and the structures required for them. Not to mention substation equipment and transformers. Then, if all these homes have EV’s, they’re gonna need larger distribution lines, maybe poles, and definitely transformers too.
It’s pure idiocy.


47 posted on 04/24/2021 5:51:26 AM PDT by vpintheak (Live free, or die!)
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To: NotQuiteCricket
Yes, President Trump made us a supplier, but we've been sticking our noses into everyone's business in the Middle East for decades, long before either took office.

Do you honestly believe we would have rescued Kuwait if their main export was fine wine instead of oil?

48 posted on 04/24/2021 5:51:34 AM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (Still praying for our country and President Trump)
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To: rarestia

Electric cars can be fueled. With hydrogen fuel cells. Battery technology is a dead-end, an is limited in its application, to short distance and relative slow speeds. If long travel between recharges is the expectation, then battery powered vehicles meet all requirements.

Without on-board capability to recharge, be it Mr. Fusion, or an auxiliary power source to charge up the batteries while running, batteries have limited usefulness in so many applications.

Now, as to how to obtain the necessary hydrogen to charge up fuel cells. There are no hydrogen mines, but it is marginally practical to generate hydrogen from electrolysis of water, or using the coal gasification process to generate hydrogen gas and carbon monoxide, then separating the lighter hydrogen from the heavier carbon monoxide, which makes an excellent fuel when combusted with oxygen, yielding carbon dioxide, a plant food. The hydrogen is then compressed and put in storage units, probably some kind of tank that can be swapped out and recharged, rather than by refilling as at a gasoline station.

Now, as to a RELIABLE electric supply, not much of anything beats a nuclear power plant for 24/7/365 flat-out, full capacity running for years at a time.

Uranium-fueled Light-Water reactors are coming to the end of their useful lifetimes, and there is great resistance to beginning construction on any similar new plants. But while they were running, they emitted NO carbon dioxide. Of course, one of the great disadvantages is that when they WERE refueled, the “spent” uranium fuel rods were still highly radioactive, and would remain so for perhaps centuries. So there was the problem of storage of this radioactive “waste”, and who were going to be the custodians at it “cooled out”.

Enter Thorium-fueled Molten Salt reactors. For one thing, the element needed for fuel is some four times as abundant in the earth’s crust as uranium, but its radioactivity could only be activated in the presence of a small amount of the vast quantity of “spent” uranium fuel rods. More than 90% of its potential energy still remains in the “waste” fuel, which is used for “kindling” to get the thorium reaction going. So over time, the “spent” uranium fuel rods get used up, and the amount of radioactivity in the spent thorium reactor fuel is very small in comparison, and compromised of relatively short half-life isotopes.

But like the Light Water reactors, the Molten Salt reactors can be run 24/7/365 for years, and have the advantage of being able to be incrementally refueled “on the go”, so to speak. The real problem comes with the breakdown of the container and the components of the reactor, which tend to become brittle. But even if the mechanism should burst, the reaction stops almost immediately, as the molten salt cools, and there is no radioactivity release. Inherently much safer than Light Water reactors.


49 posted on 04/24/2021 5:52:50 AM PDT by alloysteel (¡Viva la Revolución! It worked for Castro....)
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To: sodpoodle

after hurricane irma struck florida we were out of electricity for over a week in my area...

people can store gasoline for generators and vehicles...

to this day i still don’t see containers on the market to store electricity in...


50 posted on 04/24/2021 5:53:31 AM PDT by heavy metal (smiling improves your face value as well as making people wonder what the hell you're up to... 😁)
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To: polymuser

I know, like dude, man...don’t be hitting me with all those negative waves.


51 posted on 04/24/2021 5:55:30 AM PDT by RckyRaCoCo (Please Pray For My Brother Ken.)
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To: TwelveOfTwenty
Do you think we would be in the Middle East at the cost of American lives and trillions of dollars if it wasn't for their oil?

Did we take Iraq oil? No.

52 posted on 04/24/2021 5:58:04 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: adamjeeps

The only real problem with electric cars is they run on electricity......and we will have to have more not less...All with solar and windmill...fools all..


53 posted on 04/24/2021 5:59:10 AM PDT by Hojczyk ( )
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To: central_va
No we didn't "take" the oil, but we remained addicted to Middle East oil for decades after, and will likely be again.

You didn't answer my question. Would we have rescued Kuwait if their main export was fine wine instead of oil?

54 posted on 04/24/2021 6:02:32 AM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (Still praying for our country and President Trump)
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To: TwelveOfTwenty
Would we have rescued Kuwait if their main export was fine wine instead of oil?

I don't know, Bush 41 is dead so we will never know.

But none of this has anything do with pushing an immature not-ready-for-prime-time EV technology onto public.

55 posted on 04/24/2021 6:05:53 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Do you notice how electric car ads never mention how range drops for winter use? Get stuck in the winter & see what happens.


56 posted on 04/24/2021 6:14:57 AM PDT by oldtech
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To: Gay State Conservative

For demoncraps and environmental nut jobs there is no reality. They live in a land of unicorns and pixie dust. They will take all of us down the tube with them and their insanity though.


57 posted on 04/24/2021 6:16:10 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Politicians are only marginally good at one thing, being politicians. Otherwise they are fools.)
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To: Hot Tabasco

I think you’re right. Another factor is batteries are less efficient in cold weather.


58 posted on 04/24/2021 6:18:37 AM PDT by snoringbear (,W,E.oGovernment is the Pimp, )
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To: sodpoodle

The solution is easy. Plug in the battery heater when the temps are cold enough to cause a problem.


59 posted on 04/24/2021 6:20:03 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) History: Pelosi was pitiful vindictive California crone)
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To: Jonty30

Or those evacuating due to hurricanes.


60 posted on 04/24/2021 6:22:29 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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