WORLDOMETER COVID-19 Deaths in USA 4/13/2021: 819 with 77,720 new cases

Worldometer ^ | April 13, 2021

[romanesq]

Well even as we have science stating the ChiCom Virus is a coronavirus, we have a thread here that insists to this day it’s just flu.

And the stupid think it’s true and funny. 🤦‍♂️

[House Atreides]

“I think a case should be defined as symptomatic with a positive test.”
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And that was the definition used in the Phase 3 clinical trials.

[House Atreides]

Do you understand that familyop was simply quoting from the official guide to the users of the VAERS data... taken from the actual VAERS site. Familyop wasn’t spamming.

It’s a guide written by the folks who set up and maintain VAERS. It’s kinda like going to John, Mark and Matthew and asking THEM what was meant by their gospels. Of course, YOU may prefer YOUR interpretation of what they meant in the gospels to what they (the writers) tell you they meant.

[familyop]

Thanks, House Atreides!

[familyop]

"Good enough for me! I trust these individuals over FRAUDci, or any gov't entity."

Jane Long, VAERS is run by the CDC and the FDA.

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/ensuringsafety/monitoring/vaers/index.html
"VAERS is part of the larger vaccine safety system in the United States that helps make sure vaccines are safe. The system is co-managed by CDC and FDA."

And just below that on the same page,...

"Specifically, a report to VAERS does not mean that a vaccine caused an adverse event."

And...

"VAERS accepts reports from anyone, including patients, family members,..."

And you responded to a quote from VAERS, "A report to VAERS generally does not prove that the identified vaccine(s) caused the adverse event described."

...with:

"Do you have proof that it does not?"

Moving the goalpost. Red herring. Straw man fallacy. You just responded to a quote from VAERS--not me.

"Again....DO YOU HAVE PROOF that it was NOT?? See how that works?"

Repetition of fallacy, appeal to force with implied yelling: Argumentum Ad Baculum. Appeal to emotion (demonstration). I probably shouldn't bother responding to your displays again.

"So, please stop spamming with your anti-VAERS nonsense. These medical professionals and private citizens should be trusted as much, or more, than FRAUDci, FDA, CDC or any other gov't, or BigPharma group."

Another repetition and other fallacies. You are again responding to a direct quotation from VAERS, which is administered by the CDC and FDA.

[familyop]

"Funny how when side effects are legitimately tied to a vaccine, even if it’s literally 1 in a million like the J&J and AZ vaccines, action is taken to stop distribution and issue warnings."

Have they found a cause or a sizable enough correlation between a vaccine and serious side effects? I haven't been following that closely. The virus has caused clotting problems in many.

My comment #7, by the way, was full of links to problems possibly caused by COVID--not caused by the vaccine.

[ETCM]

Have they found a cause or a sizable enough correlation between a vaccine and serious side effects?

Nope, just the clotting with the J&J and the allergic reactions to the PEG in the mRNA vaccines so far. But I'm sure people will start dropping dead by the millions any day now.

[familyop]

When they start complaining at us, maybe we should tell them, “Don’t talk to me. I’m dead.”

[gas_dr]

Yup. Anyone can report and not subject to verification. No possibility of manipulation there.....

[maddog55]

[Jane Long]

🙄

Talk about straw men....geez, House....you thought it was *wise* to invoke John, Mark and Matthew for your absurd analogy?

Telling.

Yes....I know VEARS is managed by CDC. It’s the only *official* reporting avenue, that at least accepts stats/cases offered by individuals...and, NOT exclusively by FRAUDci stooges.

It’s not perfect, as we know they’re likely not even allowing complete reports, but...it’s the best alternative we have....for now...from them.