Posted on 04/12/2021 3:32:12 PM PDT by ransomnote
Dr. Tenpenny has written, “According to the Coronavirus Vaccine Tracker, as of Dec. 26, 2020, 83 vaccines are in Phase 1, 2 or 3 human and animal clinical trials, with 18 approaching the final stages of testing.
Never before have so many companies tested so many different vaccines at the same time, against a virus that has not been isolated. Of those in the trials, five vaccines are now early use, with three vaccines approved for clinical use Pfizer, Moderna and AstraZeneca.”
“Are you willing to be injected with something unknown and never tested before in humans?” she asks.
After all, humans are now the guinea pigs for these injections.
Tenpenny warns that those who have taken the vaccine will begin to become sick and many will die within 3-6 months.
Admittedly jumping in, midconversation. And we've tussled on COVID-related way early on in the past.
This is the first I've heard anyone assert HCA "simply doesn't work".
It was my understanding, those recommending HCQ said to give it prior to the viral amplification phase; in conjunction with Zinc. Further that the man study deb00nking it, waited until the COOF sufferers were hospitalized, and then did not give Zinc with the HCQ.
Would you happen to have a link handy, to either studies, or summary review papers, or similar, claiming that HCQ doesn't work?
Second, off the wall question. In light of the AstraZeneca/JNJ injections having (rare) side effects of clotting, what do you make of various medical articles suggesting Deep Vein Thrombosis is a side effect of coof infection? I've even seen some articles detailing patients where they had DVT -- and upon further eval, the characteristic ground-glass opacity on lung X-ray; but they had not reported any respiratory symptoms. Thoughts?
While we have tussled, I think you are spot on with some of your commentary and some of your statements.
As for HCQ simply not working, as I said, I think it is a weak prophylactic. Utilizing it in early infection did not reduce progression to severe disease, nor hospital time. While this was early in the pandemic, it seems to have held. Early in the pandemic, we were looking for anything that would help anticipating that we would either find the so called silver bullet or something would be therapeutically developed. I will work on literature searches to find the data, but most health care systems abandoned HCQ for therapy for hospitalized patients. You are correct that the mechanisms of action was for concentration of intracellular zinc by HCQ acting as an ionophore and in vitro higher levels of zinc prevent viral replications. This was not demonstrated in disease.
Not an off the wall second question. One of the early markers we measure of CoVID infection is D-dimer which is a product of thrombosis and clotting. In virtually all cases there is increased thrombotic activity (and elevated D-dimer) with CoVID infection. We actively anticoagulant many patients with elevated D-dimer to prevent thrombosis. So yes, thrombosis is a very large part of this disease.
Here are some of the interesting questions that are developing around the J&J and AstraZeneca vaccines. Since these vaccines are “more traditional” than the mRNA which is specific for the spike protein, what I think this tells us is that the dead viral particles in these injections still have a highly prothombotic nature, and it tells us a lot about Corona virus 19. From a straight non-political perspective, given that this is not seen with Pfizer and Moderna, I think this means that the thrombosis factors are not in the spike protein but in other regions of the viral genome.
Additionally here is the question that I am really curious about. The J&J was stopped because of 6 cerebral venous thromboses all of which occurred in women. I find it fascinating that there is not any males with this complication. I would be highly interested if these women were on oral contraceptive or other hormonal therapy that synergized with the injection to cause thrombosis. We know that progesterones and exogenous hormones promote thrombosis in young women so is there a correlation between progesterone and thrombosis in CoVID.
The next question I have is if we wish to continue J&J is there a population who would require some low level anticoagulation for a period of time? Then the question is would it be worth it?
Its a very curious outcome and one that bears close watching. I hope this genuinely answers the questions as best as I am able.
I hope you have a pleasant evening and thank you for your asking. I am trying to not be crusty any further — and appreciate your perspectives as well
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Gunner, I have great respect for you. However, this idea that you have is going to come with a bit of a bigger price than you might be willing to pay.
I trust you heard of the Georgia Guidestones? If not, go look them up. What the lefties want to do, in order to save the environment, is to take the Earth population down to 250 million people. That’s it.
What it means is that they want to take out 6.75 billion people. And they don’t care how they do it. How many of those 250 million that are left are going to be white, American, Christian males?
Damned few, if any. The people that are left are going to be either elites who will control their slaves, or the slaves themselves , which will be in the vast majority. But, the elites will have their taskmasters to keep the slaves in line.
My conspiracy theory is that depopulation conspiracy theories are designed to convince conservatives to not be vaccinated to depopulate the country of conservatives.
So we all get a vaccination and then an app to prove it...Welcome to social credit score a la China.
What is your take on the Vax Passport?
Facts...
I watched video and heard her say at approx 5 Min mark:
“It’s going to take somewhere between 4 months* and maybe 14 months before we see the full ravages of what’s going to happen to people are vaccinated with this who took the vaccine.”
*Video was posted Feb 11 - I am not sure whether she means 4 months from second jab or 4 months from Feb 11.
(A perspective on potential antibody-dependent enhancement of SARS-CoV-2 - PubMed (nih.gov)_.
"Antibody-dependent enhancement (ADE) of disease is a general concern for the development of vaccines and antibody therapies because the mechanisms that underlie antibody protection against any virus have a theoretical potential to amplify the infection or trigger harmful immunopathology."
"At present, there are no known clinical findings, immunological assays or biomarkers that can differentiate any severe viral infection from immune-enhanced disease, whether by measuring antibodies, T cells or intrinsic host responses. "
So as people get ADE from the vaccine, it's dismissed as a result of a variant, as occuring before they had time to develop antibodies, or claimed that the 'vax' is only 95% effective and 'no vax is perfect.'
In reality, they are going to take those vaccinated who develop ADE as a result of the 'vaccines', and add them to the stack of Covid infections to conceal the harm the vaccines are causing while falsely inflating infection rates yet again.
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18 Reasons I Won't Be Getting a Covid Vaccine
Deconstructing Conventional ^ | April 5, 2021 | Christian Elliot
Posted on 4/11/2021, 11:20:47 AM by \/\/ayne
#10: PEOPLE ARE CATCHING COVID AFTER BEING FULLY VACCINATED
Talk about a bummer.
You get vaccinated and you still catch covid.
It's happening in Washington State
It's happening in New York
It's happening in Michigan
It's happening in Hawaii
It's happening in several other states too.
It happened to 80% of 35 nuns who got the vaccine in Kentucky. Two of them died by the way.
In reality, this phenomenon is probably happening everywhere, but those are the ones making the news now.
Given the reasons above (and what's below), maybe this doesn't surprise you, but bummer if you thought the vaccine was a shield to keep you safe.
It's not.
That was never the point.
If 66% of healthcare workers in L.A. are going to delay or skip the vaccine...maybe they aren't wowed by the rushed science either.
Maybe they are watching the shady way deaths and cases are being reported...
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ So watch the news as they say the vaccinated are contracting Covid. I've seen some begin to move the goalposts because the person became ill with covid 4 or more weeks after vaccination. Originally they said it takes 2 weeks for full protection to develop, but now that illnesses are emerging, that article said, 'it can take several weeks' to develop immunity.
Thank you for all the information!
I’m totally against vax passport. I’m pro-vaccine but against coercing people to be vaccinated.
Just noticed this.
Let me counter with this suggestion.
https://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3948996/posts?page=2243#2243
Detailed link on the spike protein (even without furin cleavage site, say, from an mRNA jab) "knocking on ACE2 receptor's door" and this resulting in the cell (by definition, one not subject to lysis as no active virus is involved) sending out a bunch of pro-inflammatory proteins.
I haven't studied the process of inflammation, nor the clotting cascade, so it's a layman's shot in the dark; but do we know of any other consequences of mRNA doing its thing which would send out a bunch of "Hey, let's clot, everybody!" signals throughout the body? Or, alternatively, of other viral proteins which might start a similar inflammatory process?
You are correct.
Read later.
Goalpost moving completely discredits anything they would tell us in the future.
But gotta trust the science, even when it changes by the day.
Well, yeah in the past we were wrong, but this time we’re sure, just like we were last time when it turned out we were wrong after all.
Well if it starts killing tens of thousands, then yes the fertility rate will certainly decline.
>Wow, this post is really getting it from both sides. I’m still
>sticking with my decision to wait for more time and data.
My sentiments precisely. My standard response is:
“Ask me again in 2025. If you are still alive, perhaps we can talk.”
At this point in time, more vaxxed ppl have died from Covid than un vaxxed.
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