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Florida Cruise Port Disappointed With Latest CDC Guidance
Cruise Fever ^ | April 3, 2021 | Ben Souza

Posted on 04/04/2021 1:02:23 PM PDT by Capt. Tom

Yesterday, the CDC updated guidance regarding cruise ships resuming cruises from U.S. ports. However, there is still no timetable on when cruise lines can start back up.

Last October, the CDC laid out a four phase approach to their Conditional Sail Order. Five months later, the CDC finally updated Phase 2 and added a new Phase 2B. The new phased approach is as follows:

Phase 1: Mass testing and lab capacity building Phase 2A: Voyage preparation Phase 2B: Simulated (trial) passenger voyages Phase 3: Conditional sailing certificate Phase 4: Restricted passenger voyages

However, many in the industry think that this new guidance brings us no closer to seeing cruises resume from U.S. ports.

Capt. John Murray, CEO at Port Canaveral, gave the following statement: “For a year now, we have been working closely with our cruise partners and directly with the CDC to find a way forward for the return of cruising from Port Canaveral. Just today CDC announced vaccinated Americans could safely travel internationally. We’re disappointed that this guidance for the cruise industry appears to be nothing more than an incremental step in a far-reaching process to resume passenger sailings in the U.S. with no definitive or target start date.”

Details of each phase of the CDC’s Conditional Sail Order.

Phase 1 Conduct screening and testing of all crew onboard Develop onboard lab capacity for testing symptomatic crew, close contacts, and future passengers Conduct embarkation testing of all crew

Phase 2A Implement routine screening of all crew Develop port, medical, and housing agreements approved by port and local health authorities After agreements are approved, embark nonessential crew with testing and 14 day quarantine

Phase 2B Request approval from CDC to conduct simulated (trial) voyage Conduct simulated voyage (subject to in-person and virtual CDC inspections) Complete after action report

Phase 3 Meet CDC’s standards for protection of crew in U.S. waters Fulfill requirements for simulated voyages Apply for COVID-19 Conditional Sailing Certificate

Phase 4 Obtain and retain a COVID-19 Conditional Sailing Certificate Resume passenger operations with restrictions, such as voyage length and testing requirements


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Travel
KEYWORDS: cdc; cruiselines; floridaport
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I believe this short article on guidance from the CDC is to the point, but if it had to be shortened then one quote from the article below would do it. -Tom

"However, many in the industry think that this new guidance brings us no closer to seeing cruises resume from U.S. ports."

1 posted on 04/04/2021 1:02:23 PM PDT by Capt. Tom
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If they were honest they would add Phase 2C: Go back to Phase 1.
2 posted on 04/04/2021 1:19:14 PM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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“Last October, the CDC laid out a four phase approach to their Conditional Sail Order. Five months later, the CDC finally updated Phase 2 and added a new Phase 2B. The new phased approach is as follows:
Phase 1: Mass testing and lab capacity building Phase 2A: Voyage preparation Phase 2B: Simulated (trial) passenger voyages Phase 3: Conditional sailing certificate Phase 4: Restricted passenger voyages”

I notice there is no phase 5... normal free-market operations free from CDC meddling.


3 posted on 04/04/2021 1:23:04 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. .... )
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We are sked to sail out of Rome in October. Looking forward to a successful departure.


4 posted on 04/04/2021 1:28:26 PM PDT by jimfree (My 20 y/o granddaughter continues to have more quality exec experience than Joe Biden.)
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To: Capt. Tom

the rio grande appears to be wide open for business...


5 posted on 04/04/2021 1:33:33 PM PDT by heavy metal (smiling improves your face value as well as making people wonder what the hell you're up to... 😁)
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I notice there is no phase 5... normal free-market operations free from CDC meddling.

Three of the big cruise lines didn't wait for the CDC deception hey started to home port their ships out of this country to get Cruises going, and be free from our CDC.

CARNIAL stuck it out and got burned , but remember Carnival has several other cruise lines under its umbrella operating around the world free of CDC regs, so Carnival will get some revenue coming in.

Carnival portrayed itself as America's Cruise line and stayed her in the USA , but I believe they didn't want to compete with their other cruise lines worldwide, and decided to take a chance with the CDC allowing cruises from USA to continue because of vaccines.

Nobody can trust our CDC.-Tom

6 posted on 04/04/2021 1:44:24 PM PDT by Capt. Tom (.It's COVID 2021 - The Events, not us, are still in charge -Tom)
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Been in and out of Port Canaveral many time. Some for pleasure, some for work. Years gone by now.


7 posted on 04/04/2021 1:52:13 PM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this?)
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To: Capt. Tom

Since when is the cdc allowed to make laws?


8 posted on 04/04/2021 2:00:59 PM PDT by Trillian
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Since when is the CDC allowed to make laws?

Since by our silence we acquiesced.

9 posted on 04/04/2021 3:56:03 PM PDT by Don Corleone (leave the gun, take the canolis)
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I don’t think they’ll ever sail again.


10 posted on 04/04/2021 4:32:34 PM PDT by Baldwin77 (The 2020 election was stolen from MY President Trump)
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Looking like if I want to cruise it will be from a non US port


11 posted on 04/04/2021 4:36:12 PM PDT by nomorelurker
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Which law gives CDC the power to dictate how interstate commerce should operate?


12 posted on 04/04/2021 5:21:27 PM PDT by entropy12 (Elections & Erections have serious consequences!)
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To: Don Corleone

Exactly! See my post #12.

Me thinks the cruise companies are scared of lawsuits by going against CDC dictate. CDC has no legal power to stop any commerce.


13 posted on 04/04/2021 5:23:53 PM PDT by entropy12 (Elections & Erections have serious consequences!)
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To: heavy metal

The cuisine in Rio Grande is so-so and daily entertainment is absent. And your hotel does not move to new locations every day.


14 posted on 04/04/2021 5:27:54 PM PDT by entropy12 (Elections & Erections have serious consequences!)
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I see Desantis re-opening the cruise industry like every other business he allowed to freely re-open long before he has the blessing of anyone else.

CDC can’t/doesn’t make laws!

All the ships are foreign documented outside the jurisdiction of the FED’s through the coast guard.

Bigger question is whether or not the cruises’ port of call will allow them in besides their own private islands. Surely those ports that rely on those cruises for their revenue are hurting badly and wanting them to resume.


15 posted on 04/04/2021 5:41:13 PM PDT by diverteach (You can’t buy arms from the NRA, but you can buy them from Planned Parenthood.)
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Which law gives CDC the power to dictate how interstate commerce should operate?

In this country we have allowed Government agencies to make rules and regulations that have the effect of a law.

If the Cruise Lines that HAD Billions of dollars to spend, and Lawyers, to challenge the CDC successfully ,I believe they would have tried it in Court.-Tom

16 posted on 04/04/2021 5:43:12 PM PDT by Capt. Tom (.It's COVID 2021 - The Events, not us, are still in charge -Tom)
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So the Cruise Line doesn’t have any lawyers? They need to fight this or move to the islands.


17 posted on 04/04/2021 6:03:28 PM PDT by EC Washington
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I WANNA CRUISE !!!!

SOB


18 posted on 04/04/2021 6:56:54 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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so have I ...more than any other port...its easy to get to from TN...


19 posted on 04/04/2021 6:58:30 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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Good info. I wish them success.


20 posted on 04/04/2021 7:02:28 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. .... )
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