Posted on 04/02/2021 7:00:53 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie
Of the various Covid injections available, is there strong science on the rate of excess death after having taken the shot?
With many millions having recieved the shot, every day a few dozen will die of heart attack, cancer, stroke, being hit by a bus, etc.
The real trick is to find out HOW MANY MORE died than usual, as a percent of those who took the shot.
For example, if the background rate of death is 0.025% per Quarter of a Year, and the jabbed contingent on an age adjusted basis die at 0.056%, then death coincident (not causal, I get it) with the vaccine is just over double the expected rate.
Looking for REAL SCIENCE on this, which will be hard to find given the highly politicized nature of the subject.
And, I'm looking for a comparison AMONG the types of shots for decision making purposes. Both a Go / No Go decision, and a Which One decision.
Please provide links to what appears to be authoritative science.
Gotta make some plans over here, and I trust the FR Hive Brain more than any other source.
Thanks!
This stuff though perhaps not understood by the ignorant masses, is not magic. If the vaccine causes death, by what mechanism does it accomplish this? I remember well all the controversy surrounding the MMR vaccine and the fear that it caused autism. At that time the proposed mechanism was Thiomersol (mercury) which was used as a preservative. Well OK there are definitely people who are allergic, and the stuff is toxic in quantity so take it out then! They did, and the result was .....nothing, same autism rate as before.
There was a doctor who tried to say that combination vaccines were doing it. He lost his license. What is the mechanism? HOW is it killing people?
“They rushed out this vaccine!” Well ok then, let’s make a new rule that before anybody gets a shot, they have to sip a whole cup of coffee and chat with the nurses before the shot is given. Doctors must drag their feet as they walk the wards. “No rushing Doctor Jones! Are you trying to get us killed?”
“These experimental vaccines!” This statement is made by those who are ignorant of the testing process. The idea is they are experimenting on us instead of following the years long clinical studies process. More and more tests and experiments while people are dying. Haven’t we had enough of that?
Vanity?
I appreciate your thoughts.
I understand that along with a vanity, one ought to make a freepathon contribution.
Thank you
When COVID was being weaponized for political gain, heart attacks were COVID deaths. Now not so much.
With the exception of this Chinese bio-weapon, pandemics-epidemics are nature's way of thinning the herd; the strongest typically survive to breed.
Your post reminded me of a book I just finished reading called “The Plutonium Files”. I don’t believe it is available new. I read it on the site openlibrary.org
Fascinating documentation of what civilian and government scientists and doctors did to uninformed citizens during the cold war era.
Everything from plutonium injections, total body irradiation, giving pregnant mothers radioactive iron, blasting the nuts of prisoners with neutrons, feeding disabled children oatmeal laced with radioactive tracers, and placing military personnel near nuclear blasts, and much, much more.
In most cases never telling them they were being used as guinea pigs. And in all cases never telling of the danger.
Makes you wonder if they are at it again with the CV19 vaccines the way they are pushing them.
Wiki https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Plutonium_Files
There is lotsa money in blaming deaths on COVID, but no money in blaming deaths from injected “vaccines”!
“It is astounding that people are willing to believe all kinds of bad things about vaccines while shrugging off the real possibilities of death or disability caused by infectious diseases.”
You seem to have made the leap to ALL vaccines now, when the subject is about THESE vaccines. A sad response, you make. Furthermore, you seem not to question the government one iota, after at least 15 years of corrupt nonsense emanating from this government. In turn, I am tired of you sheep taking the government data without question!
Soap?
Depends on the virus.
Fomites are much less of an issue with WuFlu than say norovirus.
Vaccines for airborne viruses can be and are a godsend.
Two problems with the WuFlu vaccines: informed consent is an impossibility to my mind, and as such requiring a WuFlu vaxx for the general public is evil.
Wow. 26x as deadly as the flu vax.
Yikes. Great info for consideration.
Flu vax: 160 / 200,000,000 = .00008% death rate
Covid vax: 2,509 / 140,000,000 = .00179% dest rate
Flu vax: ~1 death per million
Covid vax ~18 deaths per million
wow
Next, I compare the deaths from the vaccine versus the deaths from the disease, as a percentage.
Allowing for covid to be twice (.030%) as deadly as the flu at .015%. There are lots of arguments avoit this, but this is MY napkin math.
flu deaths from vax are 0.53% (half a percent) compared to deaths from the disease.
covid deaths from vax are 5.97% compared to deaths from the disease.
I’m totally down for those odds with the flu vax.
Now suppose virtually everyone is going to catch covid. Let’s take a group of 100 of them who would die pre-vax. Let’s assume the best of the vax, and it saves 95 from dying. 5 still die. PLUS another 6 died of the shot itself. So instead ofbbn 100 dying, 11 die. Huh. That’a better.
more ....
My PERSONAL odds of dying are lower, because I’m 59, in very good health for my age, and have all the prophylactics and treatments on hand. So I’m feeling lucky.
Then, there are the unknowns. The covid vax is software engineering. I know software. It never has long term unexpected bugs .... right? So color me sceptical.
That leaves me with reasonably strong 89% numbers in favor of the vax, personal resilience, and scepticism.
I’ll wait as long as I can, until virtually forced.
Basically if the mortality rate for The vaccine is more than about .00025 or so (might have added or left out a zero) then you will have more deaths from the vaccine than the virus
Because the virus affects about 20% of the population... inoculating Everyone means a much lower mortality rate equals same number of deaths.
I’m monthly.
Thanks CJ Star this the post told you about.
I am not seeing on FR any mechanism by which these vaccines cause death. It is not magic. How does that work? Are we supposed to think that the vaccine causes death by activating the immune system just like it is supposed to do?
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