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Two-thirds of global disease experts believe coronavirus variants will make vaccines ineffective within ONE YEAR
UK Daily Mail ^ | 03/30/21 | Mary Kekatos

Posted on 03/30/2021 2:50:40 PM PDT by DFG

Two-thirds of disease experts believe coronavirus variants will render vaccines ineffective within one year, a new survey finds.

Conducted by the People's Vaccine Alliance, about 66 percent of epidemiologists, virologists and infectious disease specialists say they think that within 12 months, the virus will mutate to such a degree that first-generation vaccines will be useless at preventing infection.

Of that group, nearly one-fifth believe it would occur within six months and one-third said within nine months. Fewer than one in eight doctors said they believed that mutations would never make the vaccines currently available ineffective.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: chinavirusstrains; chinavirusvaccine; coronavirus; covid; vaccine
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

We in the US passed the classical herd immunity threshold several weeks ago when the new infection curve bent downwards with zero charges in the social mobility numbers. Herd immunity is defined by R0 < 1 where the results kill more than 2/3 of the herd. In large groups, most mammal populations recover from that sort of loss in less than 2 generations because of decrease in predation. We are now talking about deaths on the order of 3 in 2500 in the 3pm at dennys crowd, the post breeders. Amongst breeders, R0 is and always has been a value approaching the fear of electrical storms.


41 posted on 03/30/2021 4:05:13 PM PDT by protoconservative (Been Conservative Before You Were Born )
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To: DFG
polling experts is the same thing as "science", right?

like this:


42 posted on 03/30/2021 4:06:22 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: DFG

Yeah, and every year after. Just like the common cold, no cure.

Here’s the kicker: I bet at some point in the future we hear about a very disturbing feature of the mutating Covid, and that’s that if you’ve had it, and gotten sick over it, but recovered, then the next time you get it, like in a year or two, some mutated strain or even the same strain, you are much more likely to die.

And of course it’s worse the older you are, and if you have comorbidities.

The resulting effect? In 5 years, I think the life expectancy here in the US for males will be in the early 60’s, women mid 60’s.

Just a guess.


43 posted on 03/30/2021 4:10:07 PM PDT by BusterDog
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To: Captain Peter Blood; 2aProtectsTheRest

Which one of the ones you mentioned, 2aprotectstherest, are the BCG from Canada?


44 posted on 03/30/2021 4:10:29 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

What about this:

https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=241902

?


45 posted on 03/30/2021 4:12:44 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: Skywise

18 months from Dec 2019 /Jan2020 is June/July 2020; we have 3 months to go.

And instances of the virus are dropping.


46 posted on 03/30/2021 4:14:58 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: MtnClimber

Ha!
It’ll be a miracle for those who survive the next 10 years the way this world is going.


47 posted on 03/30/2021 4:28:27 PM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Jesus + Something = Nothing ; Jesus + Nothing = Everything )
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To: WildHighlander57

I’m basing it from March 2020 - so I’m figuring Labor Day-ish


48 posted on 03/30/2021 4:32:29 PM PDT by Skywise
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To: WildHighlander57

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2021/03/no_author/if-you-absolutely-must-vaccinate-against-covid-19-out-of-fear-or-coercion-hold-out-for-this-already-proven-vaccine/


49 posted on 03/30/2021 4:33:19 PM PDT by Captain Peter Blood (https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/3804407/posts?q=1&;page)
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To: cranked

Let’s see who gets more infections and/or re-infections from the new variants, those who have had a vaccine or those who sustained and with their own antibodies fought off a Covid-19 infection.


50 posted on 03/30/2021 4:45:52 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: DFG

global disease experts have been wrong about virtually every other covid prediction that they have made, so we should be safe.


51 posted on 03/30/2021 4:56:01 PM PDT by JohnBrowdie
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To: DFG

Well, I AM an epidemiologist AND an Infectious Diseases doctor - and nobody asked me.

The correct answer is: Nobody knows, but preliminary data from UK on B.1.1.7 suggests that vaccine immunity is strong.


52 posted on 03/30/2021 4:58:19 PM PDT by Jim Noble (In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act)
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To: DFG

Well, I AM an epidemiologist AND an Infectious Diseases doctor - and nobody asked me.

The correct answer is: Nobody knows, but preliminary data from UK on B.1.1.7 suggests that vaccine immunity is strong.


53 posted on 03/30/2021 4:59:54 PM PDT by Jim Noble (In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act)
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To: WildHighlander57; Captain Peter Blood

The BCG group was only a little better (about 25%) than the unvaccinated group in the Cedars Sinai study that supported this claim. The same study found that study participants with a history of BCG vaccination had significantly more comorbidities such as hypertension, cardiovascular disease, diabetes, and COPD than did those without a history of BCG vaccination. Is that an acceptable trade? Also, adult BCG vaccination is pretty rare, so these studies are based on childhood vaccinations. Adults? Who knows? So pick your poison. It will be at least a year before valid studies are complete. Then folks will freak out about all the horrible side effects. Or COVID will be fully controlled and we will move on to something else to build up as a monster.


54 posted on 03/30/2021 5:22:10 PM PDT by ETCM
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest
Don’t let the media fear campaign get to you.

That’s right because the media fear campaign is what is fueling the push and demand for the so-called vaccine.

Just say no to being a guinea pig for big pharma.

55 posted on 03/30/2021 5:23:00 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: Skywise

And that 18 months will just happen to coincide with the vaccine push and the disappearance of COVID will be credited to the vaccines when they had nothing to do with it,


56 posted on 03/30/2021 5:24:59 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: MtnClimber

LOL!!!


57 posted on 03/30/2021 5:26:39 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: MtnClimber

Yes, join the class action lawsuit that pays the lawyers millions and the injured their $2.17 each when the rest of the money is divvied up.


58 posted on 03/30/2021 5:27:52 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: ETCM

If “study participants with a history of BCG vaccination had significantly more comorbidities such as hypertension, cardiovascular disease, diabetes, and COPD than did those without a history of BCG vaccination.” then how could the “studies are based on childhood vaccinations.”?

Either the group studied were older folks with hypertension, cardiovascular disease, diabetes, or COPD, or kids with heart issues or diabetes.


59 posted on 03/30/2021 5:27:55 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: catnipman

And baby formula is better than nursing because.....

Better living through chemistry.


60 posted on 03/30/2021 5:29:01 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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