Banned From YouTube: Damning Video Details Tesla’s ‘Full Self Driving’ Claims Versus Reality

Nation and State ^ | 03/26/2021 | Tyler Durden

[SeekAndFind]

On Thursday, a video dropped on YouTube that laid out Elon Musk’s statements about Full Self Driving over the last 5 years, compared to what the company has actually been able to achieve and deliver. The 12 minute video laid out a blatantly obvious case for Full Self Driving to be, as one FinTwit user described it, “one of the biggest bait and switch scams in history”.

Noted Tesla short seller Montana Skeptic called the video “a truly superb 12-minute YouTube presentation on [Tesla’s] full self-driving promises,” noting that “almost every word spoken or written is by [Elon Musk], his carefully selected beta testers, or his legal counsel.”

In fact, the video made such an impact, some users joked that they were surprised it hadn’t been pulled from YouTube yet. And then, of course, by the end of the night Thursday, the video had been pulled from YouTube.

Lol this just happened.

https://t.co/zltHiv8dL5 pic.twitter.com/Oddb7XJTPK

— Rob Schmied (@rschmied) March 25, 2021

After being re-uploaded to Vimeo, it appeared the video was once again taken down. Finally, it was put on Veoh, where it now resides. It has also been posted in a series of 5 Tweets:

Elon Musk is aggressively going after the Tesla Self-Driving Scam video uploaded today and attempting to take it down everywhere.

I’ve split it into parts, so hopefully this stays up for this evening.

Special thanks to Pat for the copy

(12 minutes)

Part 1 of 5: pic.twitter.com/1CFypIZhF6

— Financelot (@FinanceLancelot) March 26, 2021

We’re guessing that copies may start to pop-up elsewhere once it becomes evident that someone is trying to scrub the video from the internet.

Regardless, the video starts by laying out all of Elon Musk’s claims about autonomy and Full Self Driving that he used to pitch the idea, while taking deposits for Full Self Driving, over the last half decade. For example, it shows Musk making claims of $30,000 “gross profits”, per year, for a “single robotaxi”, which, of course, does not exist.

“It’s financially insane to buy anything other than a Tesla,” the video shows Musk saying in April 2019.

The video also shows Musk in 2015 saying that Tesla will have autonomy in 3 years. It then shows Musk in 2018 saying that by the end of the following year, full self driving would be 100% to 200% safer than humans driving.

Noting that Tesla was in financial turmoil at the times Musk made many statements, the video swiftly debunks each of Musk’s points as it shows them, using footage of media reports and autonomous “beta testers”.

“We expect to be feature complete with full self driving this year,” Musk is shown again crowing in 2019. “I’m extremely confident of achieving full autonomy next year,” Musk is then shown saying in 2020.

The video then cuts to footage of numerous self-driving beta tests, repeatedly showing Teslas requiring human intervention. Recall, the company’s latest Full Self Driving beta v8.2 was absolutely thrashed by critics like Road and Track who called it “laughably bad” and “potentially dangerous”.

“If you think we’re anywhere near fully autonomous cars, this video might convince you otherwise,” Road and Track wrote about Tesla’s Full Self Driving feature about a week ago. The article referred to the feature as “morally dubious, technologically limited, and potentially dangerous”.

The 12 minute video debunking Full Self Driving appears to show the same.

GLJ Research’s Gordon Johnson said of the video in a Friday morning note:

“In a video released last night on YouTube, and subsequently erased nearly as soon as it was released, it is credibly alleged that TSLA’s full-self drive (“FSD”) function is a massive deception, which, based on tesladeaths.com, is alleged to have already killed people – in fact, the video alleges FSD is killing people “right now”. To the latter point, as has been documented for years here, “verified Tesla autopilot” deaths, again, according to tesladeaths.com, have been alleged a total of 6 times thus far…”

You can watch the whole video here.

[BereanBrain]

You may not like it but within 2-3 years the data will show AI based driving is 100x safer than driving yourself.

Have you seen the way people drive? We loose about 30-70k to driving a year.

[SeekAndFind]

RE: You may not like it but within 2-3 years the data will show AI based driving is 100x safer than driving yourself.

That might well be true. But that’s no reason for censoring information that is unflattering to current claims.

The best response to what one believes is misinformation is BETTER INFORMATION, not censorship. Tesla could come out with their own video and post it on Youtube refuting this now censored video, alas, that’s not how they choose to respond. By doing this, all they’re doing is create more suspicion.

[ctdonath2]

Autonomous driving is hard. Beta FSD is live now, with excellent results, albeit not quite to the “parked to parked” robotaxi dream. That’s not “scam”, that’s marketing optimism colliding with engineering realities, which is normal for software. Just the regulatory hurdles of letting a car drive around with no occupants is a massive issue.

The video was admittedly made by someone with a massive financial interest in Tesla failing, and he’s trying to force it to. Yes publishers should be held liable for posting libelous content.

[dfwgator]

You may not like it but within 2-3 years the data will show AI based driving is 100x safer than driving yourself.

Until somebody hacks the system.

[Mr. Lucky]

Well said.

[Nifster]

Many of those deaths are from drunk driving accidents

[Flying Circus]

Musk is good at marketing and like any marketer, presents an overly optimistic and rosey image of the future. On the other hand from what I gather, Tesla is the leader in both self driving tech and electric cars so his engineering must be doing something right. No one has full self driving capability yet because it is a hard nut to crack technically and has lots of background legal and ethical questions.

[glorgau]

You may not like it but within 2-3 years the data will show AI based driving is 100x safer than driving yourself.

The hardest thing about AI driving is accounting for all the idiots on the road.

[Alberta's Child]

Reducing the speed limit to 25 mph would save thousands of lives ... but we don’t do that, do we?

You won’t see fully automated vehicles on the road for decades, if at all.

The first automated car was developed by Princeton University and RCA in 1960. There’s a reason why we don’t have them on the road even 60 years later.

[ctdonath2]

If he wants to publish a libelous video, best he does it on his own server.

If we want major social media (YouTube & Vimeo included) to not censor right wing content, they need be held to “common carrier or responsible publishers, pick one”. That can start by making clear they’ll get sued big time if they leave up this guy’s libelous anti-Tesla content but take down the likes of Alex Jones.

[SeekAndFind]

RE: If he wants to publish a libelous video, best he does it on his own server.

What attributes constitute libel? The major attribute is FALSE STATEMENTS. Are the statements made in that video FALSE? We’ll never know because it has been taken down.

[ctdonath2]

Would be nice then to have a drunk-friendly “take me home” auto-drive button. Would save a lot of lives. We’re just about there, and this shorting nitwit wants to cancel it so he can make a buck.

[ctdonath2]

As more AI does the driving, there will be fewer idiots at the wheel.

[ctdonath2]

Yeah, the reason is: the computing power needed only reached feasible within the last few years. Now we do have self driving cars on the road, lacking only the “last hundred feet” ability. Go watch some “Tesla FSD” videos on YouTube already.

[Alberta's Child]

The technology is the easy part. The legal issues are a whole different story. Having a driver responsible for the operation of the vehicle is what shields the auto manufacturer and all of its suppliers from facing product liability lawsuits in every motor vehicle crash.

[ClearCase_guy]

Indeed. Insurance becomes a very different game if I’m not driving the car. Why should I pay for it? Why should I have it? How can anything be my fault? Where is my liability?

[ctdonath2]

YouTube and Vimeo decided the video was libelous enough to take down, lest they be sued. That’s how bad, apparently. Description above makes clear the video was trying to hold Musk too hard to normal marketing rhetoric, overlooking fact that FSD does work incredibly well now, is clearly heading toward “robotaxi capable”, and only real delay is being absolutely sure about safety and resolving regulatory hurdles.

If video owner wants it published, he can get his own server. It’s not being censored - it’s so bad nobody else is willing to be responsible for publication.

[zeugma]

Would be nice then to have a drunk-friendly “take me home” auto-drive button. Would save a lot of lives. We’re just about there, and this shorting nitwit wants to cancel it so he can make a buck.

My car has made the trip back from the bar so many times, it practically knows the way.

[Truthoverpower]

Two things I never ever want as regards motor vehicles

1- An electric car

2- A self driving vehicle

Maybe I’m just an old dinosaur like my kids call me

but trust myself and I like the internal combustion engine

I can think of at least seven or eight times where my lightning quick reactions saved my own life and/or my family and I have a high amount of doubt did some computer would’ve been able to figure out how I got out of that situation

Furthermore there’s things like driving in the snow

Is a self driving car going to know how to react to black ice and driving in the snow?

It’s symptomatic of our society in general

The more you let technology take over your life - the less you’re going to be in control of your own life and your own destiny