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Banned From YouTube: Damning Video Details Tesla’s ‘Full Self Driving’ Claims Versus Reality
Nation and State ^ | 03/26/2021 | Tyler Durden

Posted on 03/26/2021 8:00:28 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 03/26/2021 8:00:28 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

You may not like it but within 2-3 years the data will show AI based driving is 100x safer than driving yourself.

Have you seen the way people drive? We loose about 30-70k to driving a year.


2 posted on 03/26/2021 8:08:15 AM PDT by BereanBrain
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RE: You may not like it but within 2-3 years the data will show AI based driving is 100x safer than driving yourself.

That might well be true. But that’s no reason for censoring information that is unflattering to current claims.

The best response to what one believes is misinformation is BETTER INFORMATION, not censorship. Tesla could come out with their own video and post it on Youtube refuting this now censored video, alas, that’s not how they choose to respond. By doing this, all they’re doing is create more suspicion.


3 posted on 03/26/2021 8:11:21 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Autonomous driving is hard. Beta FSD is live now, with excellent results, albeit not quite to the “parked to parked” robotaxi dream. That’s not “scam”, that’s marketing optimism colliding with engineering realities, which is normal for software. Just the regulatory hurdles of letting a car drive around with no occupants is a massive issue.

The video was admittedly made by someone with a massive financial interest in Tesla failing, and he’s trying to force it to. Yes publishers should be held liable for posting libelous content.


4 posted on 03/26/2021 8:12:28 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (The claim of consensus is the first refuge of scoundrels.)
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To: BereanBrain
You may not like it but within 2-3 years the data will show AI based driving is 100x safer than driving yourself.

Until somebody hacks the system.

5 posted on 03/26/2021 8:16:39 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Well said.


6 posted on 03/26/2021 8:17:05 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: BereanBrain

Many of those deaths are from drunk driving accidents


7 posted on 03/26/2021 8:17:21 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: SeekAndFind

Musk is good at marketing and like any marketer, presents an overly optimistic and rosey image of the future. On the other hand from what I gather, Tesla is the leader in both self driving tech and electric cars so his engineering must be doing something right. No one has full self driving capability yet because it is a hard nut to crack technically and has lots of background legal and ethical questions.


8 posted on 03/26/2021 8:21:10 AM PDT by Flying Circus (God help us )
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You may not like it but within 2-3 years the data will show AI based driving is 100x safer than driving yourself.

The hardest thing about AI driving is accounting for all the idiots on the road.

9 posted on 03/26/2021 8:21:14 AM PDT by glorgau
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Reducing the speed limit to 25 mph would save thousands of lives ... but we don’t do that, do we?

You won’t see fully automated vehicles on the road for decades, if at all.

The first automated car was developed by Princeton University and RCA in 1960. There’s a reason why we don’t have them on the road even 60 years later.

10 posted on 03/26/2021 8:23:52 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("And once in a night I dreamed you were there; I canceled my flight from going nowhere.")
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To: SeekAndFind

If he wants to publish a libelous video, best he does it on his own server.

If we want major social media (YouTube & Vimeo included) to not censor right wing content, they need be held to “common carrier or responsible publishers, pick one”. That can start by making clear they’ll get sued big time if they leave up this guy’s libelous anti-Tesla content but take down the likes of Alex Jones.


11 posted on 03/26/2021 8:24:49 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (The claim of consensus is the first refuge of scoundrels.)
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RE: If he wants to publish a libelous video, best he does it on his own server.

What attributes constitute libel? The major attribute is FALSE STATEMENTS. Are the statements made in that video FALSE? We’ll never know because it has been taken down.


12 posted on 03/26/2021 8:26:41 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Would be nice then to have a drunk-friendly “take me home” auto-drive button. Would save a lot of lives. We’re just about there, and this shorting nitwit wants to cancel it so he can make a buck.


13 posted on 03/26/2021 8:27:15 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (The claim of consensus is the first refuge of scoundrels.)
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To: glorgau

As more AI does the driving, there will be fewer idiots at the wheel.


14 posted on 03/26/2021 8:28:32 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (The claim of consensus is the first refuge of scoundrels.)
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To: Alberta's Child

Yeah, the reason is: the computing power needed only reached feasible within the last few years. Now we do have self driving cars on the road, lacking only the “last hundred feet” ability. Go watch some “Tesla FSD” videos on YouTube already.


15 posted on 03/26/2021 8:31:45 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (The claim of consensus is the first refuge of scoundrels.)
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The technology is the easy part. The legal issues are a whole different story. Having a driver responsible for the operation of the vehicle is what shields the auto manufacturer and all of its suppliers from facing product liability lawsuits in every motor vehicle crash.


16 posted on 03/26/2021 8:37:59 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("And once in a night I dreamed you were there; I canceled my flight from going nowhere.")
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Indeed. Insurance becomes a very different game if I’m not driving the car. Why should I pay for it? Why should I have it? How can anything be my fault? Where is my liability?


17 posted on 03/26/2021 8:42:16 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy ("I see you did something -- why you so racist?")
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To: SeekAndFind

YouTube and Vimeo decided the video was libelous enough to take down, lest they be sued. That’s how bad, apparently. Description above makes clear the video was trying to hold Musk too hard to normal marketing rhetoric, overlooking fact that FSD does work incredibly well now, is clearly heading toward “robotaxi capable”, and only real delay is being absolutely sure about safety and resolving regulatory hurdles.

If video owner wants it published, he can get his own server. It’s not being censored - it’s so bad nobody else is willing to be responsible for publication.


18 posted on 03/26/2021 8:43:23 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (The claim of consensus is the first refuge of scoundrels.)
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Would be nice then to have a drunk-friendly “take me home” auto-drive button. Would save a lot of lives. We’re just about there, and this shorting nitwit wants to cancel it so he can make a buck.

My car has made the trip back from the bar so many times, it practically knows the way.

19 posted on 03/26/2021 8:55:59 AM PDT by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Two things I never ever want as regards motor vehicles

1- An electric car

2- A self driving vehicle

Maybe I’m just an old dinosaur like my kids call me

but trust myself and I like the internal combustion engine

I can think of at least seven or eight times where my lightning quick reactions saved my own life and/or my family and I have a high amount of doubt did some computer would’ve been able to figure out how I got out of that situation

Furthermore there’s things like driving in the snow

Is a self driving car going to know how to react to black ice and driving in the snow?

It’s symptomatic of our society in general

The more you let technology take over your life - the less you’re going to be in control of your own life and your own destiny


20 posted on 03/26/2021 8:58:03 AM PDT by Truthoverpower (Fraud !!! Now we’re off the TRUMP TRAIN and on the Swamp express to communist hell !! TRUTH! )
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