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DHS looking at tracking travel of domestic extremists
Politico ^
| 23 Mar, 2021
| BETSY WOODRUFF SWAN
Posted on 03/24/2021 2:40:29 PM PDT by MtnClimber
Law enforcement sources say that Homeland Security is investigating monitoring movements of U.S. extremists and white supremacists.
The Department of Homeland Security is considering monitoring the travel of domestic extremists and expanding its use of the No Fly List, law enforcement sources told POLITICO.
The discussions are part of the Biden administration’s strategy of treating domestic terror as a national security threat, and not just a law enforcement problem. They're also part of broader conversations in government about how to use tools developed for the Global War on Terror to combat domestic extremism. And, if past is prologue, the approach could prove politically contentious.
The department could begin analyzing the travel patterns of suspected domestic extremists, monitor flights they book on short notice and search their luggage for weapons, a senior law enforcement official told POLITICO. There have also been discussions about putting suspected domestic violent extremists — a category that includes white supremacists — on the FBI’s No Fly List, the official said. When suspected extremists travel internationally, officials may be more likely to question them before they pass through customs and to search their phones and laptops.
A second law enforcement official told POLITICO that conversations about monitoring domestic extremists’ travel have involved multiple federal agencies at the interagency level, including the FBI.
“Domestic violent extremism poses the most lethal, persistent terrorism-related threat to our homeland today," a DHS spokesperson said in response to a request for comment. "DHS is committed to improving security and is reviewing options for enhancing screening and vetting protocols and travel pattern analyses, consistent with privacy, civil rights, and civil liberties.”
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TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: bidenvoters; communism
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To: MtnClimber
Will they get FISA warrants to monitor cells that have MAGA hats?
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posted on
03/24/2021 2:40:42 PM PDT
by
MtnClimber
(For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
To: MtnClimber
domestic extremists, i.e. anyone that voted republican in a blue state.
3
posted on
03/24/2021 2:44:25 PM PDT
by
glorgau
To: MtnClimber
This was warned against at the start of the surveillance state to fight “a war on Terror”. Too generic a category. The intelligence agencies were weaponized against an opposition party (Trump), and now against the PEOPLE in said party.
4
posted on
03/24/2021 2:45:16 PM PDT
by
tbw2
To: MtnClimber
Has the government done something to be afraid of?
5
posted on
03/24/2021 2:47:36 PM PDT
by
Toespi
To: MtnClimber
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posted on
03/24/2021 2:47:53 PM PDT
by
albie
To: MtnClimber
I catch the whiff of death camps in the future for putative “domestic terrorists.”
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posted on
03/24/2021 2:48:50 PM PDT
by
E. Pluribus Unum
(Anti-racism looks suspiciously like racism.)
To: MtnClimber
“U.S. extremists and white supremacists” = political enemies
8
posted on
03/24/2021 2:49:13 PM PDT
by
UnwashedPeasant
(Trump is the last legally elected U.S. President.)
To: MtnClimber
By that they mean anybody who voted for Trump or is a member of the Republican party.
Did you think the gestapo would return, renamed DHS?
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posted on
03/24/2021 2:49:14 PM PDT
by
I want the USA back
(The nation is in the grips of incurable hysterical insanity, as usual.)
To: MtnClimber
How very.....Soviet of them.
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posted on
03/24/2021 2:51:11 PM PDT
by
BenLurkin
(The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire. Or both.)
To: MtnClimber
Will they get FISA warrants to monitor cells that have MAGA hats? Yes.
11
posted on
03/24/2021 2:51:19 PM PDT
by
KC_Lion
To: MtnClimber
iow - track conservatives and Trump supporters
To: MtnClimber
Why go through all the trouble, just make a quick call to Apple or T-Mobile if they want to monitor the movements of conservatives.
By the way, nice job in preventing that Colorado shooting, seems they were too busy with fake terrorists to bother addressing the threats from REAL terrorists.
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posted on
03/24/2021 2:53:48 PM PDT
by
BobL
(TheDonald.win is now Patriots.win)
To: MtnClimber
This is just plain evil. Yet given the unholy marriage of technology and the Patriot Act after the events of 9-11, here we are. I do not see how to put the police state genie back in the bottle or even slow it down. Unless of course you are antifa or blm, then your extremism is laudable. Ihre papier bitte.
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posted on
03/24/2021 2:53:51 PM PDT
by
buckalfa
(I have forgotten more than I ever knew.)
To: George from New England
How about illegals that are no shows in court?
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posted on
03/24/2021 2:55:00 PM PDT
by
mplc51
( )
To: tbw2
Plenty of us opposed the Patriot Act and other over-reaching spy laws but, of course, were out-shouted by the short-sighted jingoists on the FR. Now the RATs are using these laws to go after mainstream conservatives. Just as accurately predicted.
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posted on
03/24/2021 2:55:40 PM PDT
by
Seruzawa
(TANSTAAFL)
To: MtnClimber
White people only get the thrill of being monitored by DHS; if you are white, then you are a domestic terrorist, ipso facto Jack. The other 32% are peaceful fun loving innocents who are just trying to get along.
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posted on
03/24/2021 2:55:43 PM PDT
by
PIF
(They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
To: MtnClimber
I have several problems with the no fly list. Okay, if there is sufficient evidence to put someone on the no fly list, why aren’t they arrested, or deported, or, whatever is appropriate? The other problem is, apparently, there is no warning or appeal’s process. You get to find out when you arrive at the airport.
(snip) “Some of those efforts are deeply controversial. The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) and other civil rights groups have long lambasted the feds’ use of the secretive No Fly List. Americans on the list don’t have the right to know why exactly they’re on it, and it can be difficult or impossible to get removed once they’re there. The ACLU has called it “an indefinite Kafkaesque nightmare.”
(unsnip)
Of course, we know anyone who has a MAGA hat will be classed as a domestic terrorist. And, since you can’t know why you are on the list, you will never find out that it’s because you own the hat and gave Trump $50. Which, of course, would be support for racism, or something. Because, well, Trump said he grabbed a crotch or something similar.
The list itself is problematic. The fact you can’t find out why you’re on it, is doubly problematic. I understand why, it may be because they know you’re a member of a real terrorist group and the fact that they told you that would reveal a lot about what the government knows. And, mostly, the government does not arrest people, they instead watch them to get more information. But, then you put that person on the no fly list and, well, that blows the whole thing, doesn’t it?
So, arrest and/or deport, or let them fly. Otherwise, the list turns into a way to monitor and control your political opposition. And, that’s what I think it is now.
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posted on
03/24/2021 2:56:56 PM PDT
by
Gen.Blather
(Wait! I said that out loud? )
To: MtnClimber
The department could begin analyzing the travel patterns of suspected domestic extremists
—
Meanwhile, A guy known to the FBI kills 10 people in a supermarket.
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posted on
03/24/2021 2:57:14 PM PDT
by
Flick Lives
(“Today we celebrate the first glorious anniversary of the Information Purification Directives.”)
To: MtnClimber
This is something CTH has discussed since the early aftermath of the 2020 election. The once whispered approach is now an open discussion. As you read the linked Politico article remind yourself of the bigger picture.

While it might sound innocuous for the U.S. Dept. of Homeland Security to monitor the travel habits & patterns of Americans they define as ‘domestic extremists’, we would be prudent to remind ourselves that political affiliation is just as easily defined as ‘extremism.’
DHS is considering not only tracking American people defined by the U.S. intelligence apparatus as ‘extremist’, they are also debating the manner and processes of intercepting, questioning and searching those individuals.
As we have seen from the factual example of the January 6th DC protest rally, if you attend an event labeled as ‘extremist’ by a 20-something ideologue with access inside the system, you may find yourself on a “no-fly” list.
Expand your thinking to what was initiated with the COVID model for “contact tracing” and you can quickly see how physical proximity to a rogue dissident, a person with wrong thoughts – aka a domestic extremist, can result in you being labeled along with that dissident…. and you are on the list. Then overlay the efforts of Big Tech to assist the administrative state with an electronic trail of your habits, contacts, phone calls, text messages and internet patterns…. and you are on the list.
Remind yourself what FBI “contractors’ with access to the NSA database already did in their quest for political opposition research and surveillance {Go Deep}. Then overlay all of the above and you get an alarming picture that is not something to dispatch. This is a very serious matter in a nation that prides itself on freedom and liberty.

WASHINGTON DC – The Department of Homeland Security is considering monitoring the travel of domestic extremists and expanding its use of the No Fly List, law enforcement sources told POLITICO.
The discussions are part of the Biden administration’s strategy of treating domestic terror as a national security threat, and not just a law enforcement problem. They’re also part of broader conversations in government about how to use tools developed for the Global War on Terror to combat domestic extremism. And, if past is prologue, the approach could prove politically contentious.
The department could begin analyzing the travel patterns of suspected domestic extremists, monitor flights they book on short notice and search their luggage for weapons, a senior law enforcement official told POLITICO. There have also been discussions about putting suspected domestic violent extremists — a category that includes white supremacists — on the FBI’s No Fly List, the official said. When suspected extremists travel internationally, officials may be more likely to question them before they pass through customs and to search their phones and laptops.
A second law enforcement official told POLITICO that conversations about monitoring domestic extremists’ travel have involved multiple federal agencies at the interagency level, including the FBI.
“Domestic violent extremism poses the most lethal, persistent terrorism-related threat to our homeland today,” a DHS spokesperson said in response to a request for comment. “DHS is committed to improving security and is reviewing options for enhancing screening and vetting protocols and travel pattern analyses, consistent with privacy, civil rights, and civil liberties.”
The FBI declined to comment. (read more)
When we see all of these shootings attached to the FBI’s previous knowledge of the suspect, we must be cautious about what we would ask for lest we suddenly realize there is a direct motive here for the FBI not to stop a domestic terrorist from carrying out their agenda.
Perhaps, just perhaps, the FBI is allowing these shooting incidents to take place in order to provide fuel for people to demand a solution…. that opens the door to the labeling of people as domestic threats as a proactive measure…. and that carries all of the ramifications outlined above.
…Oh, but the FBI would never do that right?…

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posted on
03/24/2021 2:58:51 PM PDT
by
Bratch
(The only way men or women can be judged is against the canvas of their own time. - Louis L'Amour)
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