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Two states tax some drivers by the mile. Many more want to give it a try.
https://www.msn.com ^ | 3/13/2021 | Ian Duncan, Joe Fox

Posted on 03/19/2021 5:25:41 AM PDT by Red Badger

Bruce Starr spotted the problem right away: The hydrogen-powered cars General Motors was showing off on the Oregon Capitol grounds wouldn’t need gas. And if they didn’t need gas, drivers wouldn’t be paying gas taxes that fund the state’s roads.

It was 2001, and the problem seemed urgent. GM predicted the cars would be on the market in a few years. Starr, then a Republican state representative, created a task force to figure out the future of transportation funding.

“There’s no asphalt fairy out there that sprinkles asphalt in the night on our roadways,” he said recently.

Widespread production of hydrogen-powered cars has not come to pass, but GM is eyeing an all-electric fleet by 2035 with the backing of the Biden administration. That has lawmakers in state capitals across the country and in Washington increasingly confronting the question that troubled Starr two decades ago.

Many have settled on an answer: charging drivers a penny or two for each mile behind the wheel. But while such a system would bring in tax dollars for roads, it also would present a new set of obstacles.

States are leading the way, with Oregon and Utah launching the first programs and several others running pilots to test technology and build public support. The approach has bipartisan support in Washington, and Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg has signaled his openness.

But existing programs operate on a small scale, and a national system would mean tracking millions of vehicles. Supporters are pushing for the quick adoption of proposals to maintain funding of the nation’s crumbling infrastructure, while opponents, including environmental advocates, argue the shift is premature at a time when electric vehicles are a fraction of cars on the road. New fees also would slow their adoption, they say.

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I can agree that with non-petroleum fueled vehicles becoming more and more prevalent on the roads, they must come up with a system to pay for infrastructure maintenance and repairs.

But it could be done thru auto and truck tags or tire sales.........................

1 posted on 03/19/2021 5:25:41 AM PDT by Red Badger
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To: Red Badger

They could cease raiding the highway funds for welfare and special products.


2 posted on 03/19/2021 5:29:18 AM PDT by mrmeyer (You can't conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him. Robert Heinlein)
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Yeah, like that's gonna happen................
3 posted on 03/19/2021 5:30:38 AM PDT by Red Badger ("We've always been at war with Climate Change, Winston."..............................)
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“There’s no asphalt fairy out there that sprinkles asphalt in the night on our roadways,” he said recently.

He should check San Francisco. They have all kinds of fairies there.

4 posted on 03/19/2021 5:31:00 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack
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To: Red Badger

I’m seriously thinking of getting a horse.


5 posted on 03/19/2021 5:32:21 AM PDT by HighSierra5
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To: Red Badger

I am no physicist, but was under the impression that it takes more energy to split hydrogen off of a molecule than you can gain from it as a a fuel.


6 posted on 03/19/2021 5:33:10 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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...and Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg has signaled his openness.

Yes, many many times.

7 posted on 03/19/2021 5:34:13 AM PDT by KevinB (''... and to the Banana Republic for which it stands ...")
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They'll know the and tax you on the amount of miles you drive.

Next, they'll dictate how many miles you are "allowed" to drive.

And of course, the miles that you do or do not drive will all factor into your social credit score.

8 posted on 03/19/2021 5:34:24 AM PDT by SIDENET (ISAIAH 5:20)
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Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg has signaled his openness.


Which orifice?


9 posted on 03/19/2021 5:35:16 AM PDT by nesnah (Liberals - the petulant children of politics)
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Here in NC they read your OBD2 data when you get the yearly inspection. One thing they get is the mileage, so the could use that to calculate a tax. But they are going to push for a device that records your movements as well as a ton of other data. They are worried about everything except your privacy.


10 posted on 03/19/2021 5:35:47 AM PDT by beef (The Chinese have a little secret—diversity is _not_ a strength.)
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To: SIDENET

Oops, had an extra “the” in first sentence.


11 posted on 03/19/2021 5:35:55 AM PDT by SIDENET (ISAIAH 5:20)
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As to the tax, that is fair IF you do away with fuel taxes.


12 posted on 03/19/2021 5:36:47 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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He’s always there where the rubber meets the........................


13 posted on 03/19/2021 5:36:50 AM PDT by Red Badger ("We've always been at war with Climate Change, Winston."..............................)
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Pete is open to taxing you coming and going.


14 posted on 03/19/2021 5:38:17 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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Yes.....................


15 posted on 03/19/2021 5:38:18 AM PDT by Red Badger ("We've always been at war with Climate Change, Winston."..............................)
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To: Joe 6-pack

It ain’t ‘asphalt’ they are putting on the streets...............


16 posted on 03/19/2021 5:39:15 AM PDT by Red Badger ("We've always been at war with Climate Change, Winston."..............................)
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To: mrmeyer

as they also do with Social Security


17 posted on 03/19/2021 5:40:22 AM PDT by southernindymom
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Here in NC they read your OBD2 data when you get the yearly inspection

Florida did away with VERY MUCH HATED yearly inspections, way back in the late 70's........... And a DEM Governor did it!................

18 posted on 03/19/2021 5:41:32 AM PDT by Red Badger ("We've always been at war with Climate Change, Winston."..............................)
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Maybe road maintenance costs could be lowered if they figured out a way to fill pot holes with ground up, discarded wind turbine blades.


19 posted on 03/19/2021 5:42:28 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack
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To: Red Badger
This used to be called 'creeping socialism' but it is better described as creeping statism.


20 posted on 03/19/2021 5:44:03 AM PDT by Kevmo (The tree of liberty is thirsty.)
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