Kirk Franklin and son Kerrion Franklin. (Photos: @kirkfranklin/Instagram, @kerrionrashad/Instagram)
Son looks to old to be pulling this kind of stunt, at least to me.
Posted on 03/17/2021 10:34:54 PM PDT by nickcarraway
"No father should speak to their children like this," Kerrion Franklin posted with the recording.
Grammy-winning gospel singer Kirk Franklin apologized over the weekend after his son posted a recording of a phone call in which Franklin hurled profanities and an apparent threat at his son.
In audio of the partial phone call posted to Kerrion Franklin's Instagram account, the elder Franklin can be heard saying: "You need to get your skinny motherf-----g ass back out the g------ way before I put my foot in your ass."
"I will break your neck if you ever disrespect me," he continued before seeming to hang up.
"Did he just hang up the phone? 'I’ll break your neck.' Is that a threat?" Kerrion said before ending the recording.
The pair have had a tumultuous relationship. Kirk Franklin has two children with wife Tammy Collins and legally adopted her daughter from a previous relationship. Kerrion is Kirk's son from a previous relationship.
"This is why I’m done. No father should speak to their children like this," Kerrion posted in a caption alongside the video.
"Hanging up in my face, No apology, no compassion, no effort. Stop telling me to go home to my family I don’t even know where they live. I don’t think I’ll ever trust my father to be alone around him ever again," he added. "I didn’t want to do this. I probably won’t release the entire recording because it’s too embarrassing that Im even dealing with this."
On Saturday, Kirk Franklin, who hosts BET's reality singing competition "Sunday Best," posted a video to Twitter addressing the call.
"Many of you know I have an older son named Kerrion Franklin. ... We have had a toxic relationship with him as a family," Franklin said. "We’ve tried for many years — through counseling, through therapy — to try to rectify this private family matter."
He said that a therapist had been on the call earlier in the phone conversation, "but he never played that part of the recording."
"I felt extremely disrespected in that conversation and I lost my temper. And I said words that are not appropriate, and I am sincerely sorry to all of you," Franklin said. "I’m not perfect, I’m human and I’m going to make mistakes, and I’m trying to make it right. Please keep me and my family in your prayers."
Very well said, thank you.
I do believe cranked is right, what you are describing as hypocrisy is actually “Unbelief”. But I do agree with the rest of your statement.
Get over yourself.
I never said I didn’t lose my temper, but I do not use that kind of language either when I do.
It’s called being an adult.
Is it common for you to talk to your kids like that?
Especially in religion.
I agree with your post, but I will add I have come across several Christians who claim that they are now “sin free” over the years. Whatever that means??
I’m saved. Got a safety net that The Sovereign Lord provides when I do sin. I repent - immediately and with a sorrow heart of remorse. Such is our lives in this flesh.
People need to read about the Prodigal son and understand that it is our God’s goal for all to come to Him as they are. He will transform them individually with the guidance of the Holy Spirit. Sometimes it’s a very long process.
He’s not a kid, and we don’t know the situation.
I know I wouldn’t be a rat to my family and release private conversations with family regardless of what was said.
He ain’t a kid. He’s 33
Son looks to old to be pulling this kind of stunt, at least to me.
That is likely the root of the problem right there. When I was 33, I was married and living in my own house with two children of my own. I saw my parents maybe two or three times a year, usually on holidays. When we saw each other, we treated each other as equals.
Children need to make that break from the "parent/child" relationship at an early age. Otherwise, they are setting themselves up for a lifetime of dysfunction. It is more up to the children to make that break, otherwise the parents will always look to maintain control in the relationship.
When I was still early in my 20s, I went to visit them one time and we got into an argument. I forget the exact reason for the argument but it revolved around my choice to continue working at my current job instead of "looking for something better." My mom especially thought it was a dead end job and that I was not reaching my potential. I replied that it was really none of her business what I chose to do for a career.
Well I didn't let it escalate to a heated argument. I simply walked out of their home, into the car (that I owned) and went back to my own apartment. I did not speak to them again for at least a few weeks but I did not hold a grudge. When we finally did speak again at a family gathering, we had a nice discussion and I did not even bring up our previous altercation. That was when I made my break and established myself as a mature adult in their eyes, capable of making my own decisions. Our relationship from that point on was always based on mutual respect.
Had I allowed my parents to browbeat me into leaving my job for something that they deemed worthy of me, I would simply have remained their emotional dependent. I see that all too often with adults who are well into their 30s and even 40s. They continue to allow their parents to have control over their lives. I do not think that is healthy.
From the day a kid is born the parents have one job to do. Make the kid a little more independent each and every day.
It was on a Monday, the day before my oldest turned 18. Her best friend is a girl names Jessica.
She asked if she could go to the mall with Jess on Wednesday.
I asked how old she’d be on Wednesday. She said 18.
I said “Everything changes from can I go to I’m going to the mall with Jess.”
Her eyes lit with realization.
All four of mine moved out and independent by the time they were 20. 18 in one case.
They have decent jobs, and while we’re always on board to help, they don’t ask.
I fully agree. Both my children are grown and live out of state. They've been out of our home since they were in their early 20s. That enabled us to sell our large home and move to a condo, so they now have no choice! But I'm happy for them. Feels good to see your children making it on their own.
It is great. We have very good relationships with all of them and they’re not afraid to call for advice
He’s still his own child.
Mine are in their early thirties and I still refer to them as my kids, as in my children.
Grown up as they are, I will always be their mother and they will always be my children even though I don’t treat them as kids any more.
And all that aside, there’s STILL no excuse for that kind of language towards someone else, much less your own flesh and blood.
If the 33 year old is such a mess, there’s a reason for it and the father’s behavior towards his adult son gives a pretty good indication of why.
When my son was 13 I took him out for his birthday dinner and explained he was now entering adulthood and would be treated that way. (I’m his Mom, who was divorced from his Dad when he was 6). He has turned out very well...course he had extra challenges, living with his Dad during his teen years, but it taught him what he did NOT want as his dad and I lived nearly polar opposite lives.
I think they are kjust co fused. We are free fro. The penalty of sin in the after life, BUT not free from the consequences of sin in this lifen
Yes, it is mostly a very long time, a lifetime I fact. Some achieve greater success through christ, some not so much, and they get taken out early in life because they chose not to be close to God.. thankfully the Holy Spirit keeps prompting us to keep getting closer to God. Thankfully He doesn’t give up on us as we keep on sinning, and say “it’s hopeless, he or she will never understand, I quit”
Of course it is real, but many folks point their finger at Christians and say “they are hypocrites” simply because Christians aren’t perfect, and fall into sin just like the rest of the world. I thought you were making that kind of a statement, accusing the father in the article of being a hypocrite simply because he .out his temper with his son, something most everyone does fro time to time regardless of their spiritual co diction, saved or not. All I was saying was that sinning after salvation does not make one a hypocrite,. The father isn’t a hypocrite because he lost his temper no more tha an unsaved person is a hypocrite because they lose theirs.
Yes, some preachers preach that they are sinless, then they go out and sin, but those people are charlatans. Even Paul admitted he was still in the throes of being a “chief sinner” and struggled with it.
J don’t think the father of the article ever claimed to be a sinless person. And it’s good that he did humble himself and apologize, which shows the Holy Spirit is working In His life, which is a lifelong process, so I don’t see him as being a hypocrite at all, just a person still struggling with the win nature that is I. All of us
[[This is a father having an argument with his adult son. It happens thousands upon thousands of times a day in America. This is not news and it shows how far we’ve fallen that NBC News considers it a story worth their time]]
Exactly. The msm jump at any chance they get to try to paint Christians In A bad light, hoping to paint them as hypocrites apparently, for not being perfect and free fro defects because they claim to be Christians. The msm love digging up dirt to try to topple people. They love to ruin people, especially Christians. Because Christians and God remind them that they are lost and in need of a savior too, and that I terferes with their desire to live apart fro God and from His moral laws.
They mistakenly hold Christians to impossible standards. Thankfully God does not hold us to those same standards, and is still there to help when we fall. Un.ike the msm who is there to destroy folks when they fall
Not sure I’m fol.owing. I was describing what hypocrisy isn’t. I did mention that preachers will preach they are sinless and incapable of sin, the. Go out and si . That is to me at least, hypocrisy. A “do as I say, not as I do” type situation.
For instance, if a preachers tells everyone to sell everything they have, and give to the poor, and preaches that this is what Christ demands of Christians today (some preachers actually preach this) but lives in luxury himself, then that is of course hypocrisy, not unbelief as far as I can see?
I didn’t see that the father was being a hypocrite for losing his temper. Many times when we blow up,, the old nature comes roaring back full force,, and things come out of our mouths that we are shocked and embarrassed by.. but that doesn’t make us hypocrites, it simply makes us victims of our old nature, something we will struggle with our whole lives, some worse than others.
I perhaps miss read cranked’s post, but it seemed to me he was implying that the father was a hypocrit? He is a gospel singer, and yes, is therefore held to a bit higher standard tha we are, but he still is very capable of sin just like we are. His songs I don’t think sing about being perfect, at least I hope they don’t. (Except in The afterlife of course).
If I misunderstood the intent of his/your post (cranked), then my sincerest apologies to him/you.
Thanks, but I may have misunderstood his post
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