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Is It Possible To Vote Left-Wing Government Out? The Case Of Argentina
Manhattan Contrarian ^ | 14 Mar, 2021 | Francis Menton

Posted on 03/16/2021 7:12:00 AM PDT by MtnClimber

As I have written many times at this site, the consequence of socialism, and of left-wing public policy more generally, is gradual relative economic decline. Take a prosperous country (or state or city), then put in place the progressive policy prescriptions, and wait twenty or thirty or forty years, and you will find a place that has been passed by by all the competition.

But why would the people give governing leftists twenty or more years if they are running the place into the ground? The answer is that great promises are made of infinite government resources to solve all human problems; and special favors are granted to strong interest groups like government workers and labor unions and subsidized corporations, who return the favors with votes. Economic decline continues, but slowly, and the only way to perceive it is to make comparisons with other countries.

The true archetype for long-term economic decline through left-wing policy is Argentina. They have been at it since at least the 1930s. Back then, Argentina was one of the richest countries in the world, right up there with the United States. According to this February 2020 piece from The Economic Standard, “In the first third of the 20th century, [Argentina] was one of the ten wealthiest countries in the world.” Its decline began with the adoption of “autarky and protectionism” between 1930 and 1945. Then, Juan Peron came to power in 1946. Argentina’s public policy regime since then mostly goes by the name of “Peronism.” Here are some excerpts from a list of the key policies of Peronism:

Nationalized several industries, such as electricity, gas, telephone, railways, urban transport, media, etc.; subsidized union and business groups close to power; [greatly increased] public spending and incurred high fiscal deficits; massive debt monetization through the central bank, generating high inflation; raised the taxes. . . .; introduced rigid controls on production and the free hiring of services and workers; fixed prices in the rental market and suspended real estate foreclosures. . . .

Does anything in there sound familiar?

Since the 1940s, Argentina’s government has mostly gone back and forth between Peronists and the military. Most recently, a Peronist named Nestor Kirchner came to power in 2003. He was succeeded by his wife Christina in 2007, and she then served two terms until 2015. At that time a guy promising some free market reforms, by the name of Mauricio Macri, took over; but before Macri could make much policy impression, he was quickly defeated in 2019 by Peronist Alberto Fernandez — whose Vice President is none other than Christina Kirchner. They remain in power today.

Today, Argentina ranks as the 69th richest country in the IMF ranking, also 69th per the World Bank, and 68th in the UN ranking. The three sources put its per capita GDP between $8,433 and $10,041. By comparison, U.S. per capita GDP is in the range of $65,000 per all three sources.

A piece in the Wall Street Journal on March 9 by Ryan Dube gives a good picture of the overall policy and prosperity landscape today in Argentina. In terms of economic policy, they are doubling down on the same Peronist policies that have brought them so low:

For Mr. Fernández, the solution [to Argentina’s economic woes] is to . . . tax a prosperous farm sector and wealthy individuals, while avoiding austerity measures such as cutbacks to billions of dollars a year in subsidies. . . . Facing the crisis, Mr. Fernández’s government is implementing interventionist policies that will undermine hopes of increasing investments needed to generate employment, said Carlos Melconian, an economist and former chief of the country’s top state-run bank. . . . Argentina has banned companies from laying off workers, frozen telecom prices and increased export taxes on soybeans, wheat and corn. The government last year paid up to 50% of the salaries of workers at tens of thousands of small businesses. It has also restricted corporations from accessing dollars needed to service foreign debt.

And how is it all working out in economic performance? It would be hard to get much worse:

“The economy shrank 10% in 2020, one of the world’s worst contractions during the coronavirus pandemic.” By contrast, the U.S. economy, which was also hard hit by Covid, shrank only 2.3%.

The annual inflation rate is given as 36%.

“The country’s total stock-market valuation has collapsed from $350 billion in 2018 to $20 billion last year, according to EcoGo, an economic consulting firm.”

“Poverty has risen to more than 44%.” The WSJ does not give the methodology by which “poverty” is calculated in Argentina. On the other hand, with a per capita GDP of $10,000 or less, it is entirely likely that there is real physical-deprivation poverty in the range of 44%.

“With debt payments looming, Argentina is virtually broke, with just $5 billion in cash and gold reserves, half of what is on hand in neighboring Uruguay, whose population is 8% of Argentina’s 45 million.”

Per Señor Melconian (the former head of the largest state-run bank), “The [government’s] measures are going to fail. . . . There are no [private] investments.” Large companies that have recently pulled out of the country include Wal-Mart and Nike.

We are now embarking on our own version of very similar economic policies. I can think of no reason to expect the results to be any different. But everybody with clout in Argentina is somehow getting some kind of subsidy or preference from the government, so they never seem to be able to vote for significant change. That’s more or less the plan of Pelosi, Schumer, et al.


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KEYWORDS: communism; economiccollapse; oodaloop; prepopers; prepper; shtf; socialism
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1 posted on 03/16/2021 7:12:00 AM PDT by MtnClimber
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To: MtnClimber

Argentina is a beautiful country. Their Andes mountain range beats our Rockies. Vast grazing ranges, great natural resources. It would be a great place to live except for the governments they elect.


2 posted on 03/16/2021 7:12:12 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Color ado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: MtnClimber

I think the answer is “no”, it is NOT possible to vote out a left-wing government. The reason for this, is that, here in the USA, the left-wingers have the ability to control all elements of elections and vote-counting, unchecked. As long as this situation exists, they cannot be defeated. JMHO


3 posted on 03/16/2021 7:13:46 AM PDT by NEMDF
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To: MtnClimber

I think the silver running out and the deterioration of Argentina’s relationship with Britain might have had something to do with Argentina’s decline too.

I was in Argentina from 2010-2011. Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner was (and probably still is) a murderous piece of, er, work.


4 posted on 03/16/2021 7:16:55 AM PDT by FormerFRLurker
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To: MtnClimber

And yet the voting cardinals of the Catholic Church thought it a brilliant idea to hire a Peronist as CEO in 2013.


5 posted on 03/16/2021 7:20:59 AM PDT by irishjuggler
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To: NEMDF

The reason for this, is that, here in the USA, the left-wingers have the ability to control all elements of elections and vote-counting, unchecked.

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The Left also has control over the congress and Treasury and can buy the votes it needs to remain in power. But perhaps its biggest advantage is that it doesn’t have any real political opponent. The GOP rolls over for them all the time.

The Left is not constrained by ethics, morality or laws like the right is and basically does what it wants.


6 posted on 03/16/2021 7:27:00 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: MtnClimber

No. The ghost of stalin helps to count the votes.


7 posted on 03/16/2021 7:49:12 AM PDT by dynachrome ("I will not be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.")
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To: NEMDF; metmom; Jane Long; Travis McGee; LucyT; bitt
NEMDF :" I think the answer is “no”, it is NOT possible to vote out a left-wing government.
The reason for this, is that, here in the USA, the left-wingers have the ability to control all elements of elections and vote-counting, unchecked.
As long as this situation exists, they cannot be defeated. JMHO. "

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8 posted on 03/16/2021 7:54:53 AM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt
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To: NEMDF

I think the answer is “no”, it is NOT possible to vote out a left-wing government. The reason for this, is that, here in the USA, the left-wingers have the ability to control all elements of elections and vote-counting, unchecked. As long as this situation exists, they cannot be defeated. JMHO

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Agree, a complicit media ensured that the truth would never be brought to light and the now exposed politicians feared a Trump unleashed second term .

They called in their chips with all levels of the court , as many of them owe their jobs to pols to ensure that all avenues were closed off.

They may have fooled the sheeple but many of us clearly now see the swamp and cabal revealed.


9 posted on 03/16/2021 8:04:10 AM PDT by patriotspride (Third generation Vet. Never forget the true cost of freedom)
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To: NEMDF

Yep. Might have been able to do it if we had some honest judges willing to crack down on the vote rigging, but it seems like we don’t have any of those left.


10 posted on 03/16/2021 8:14:29 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: NEMDF

“I think the answer is “no”, it is NOT possible to vote out a left-wing government. The reason for this, is that, here in the USA, the left-wingers have the ability to control all elements of elections and vote-counting, unchecked. As long as this situation exists, they cannot be defeated. JMHO”

We sure agree!! But, it often comes crashing down, and then change happens (think USSR & some eastern European countries). Even Cuba is making slow reforms (not big, but baby steps). Venezuela will collapse soon and perhaps they can recover.

Some, never change, though.

I hope that’s not us.


11 posted on 03/16/2021 8:17:46 AM PDT by icclearly
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To: NEMDF

Too true.


12 posted on 03/16/2021 8:33:13 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: MtnClimber

You can vote your way in, you have to shoot your way out. See: United States of America.


13 posted on 03/16/2021 8:40:27 AM PDT by VTenigma (The Democrat party is the party of the mathematically challenged )
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To: ping jockey

I like that!


15 posted on 03/16/2021 11:40:38 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: MtnClimber

Sounds a lot like California.


16 posted on 03/16/2021 12:22:32 PM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you care! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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To: MtnClimber
The commie allure is we can all return to a blissful state of being children with the State being our loving, all-giving and fair - parents.
17 posted on 03/16/2021 12:41:24 PM PDT by GOPJ (Race is the Achilles' heel of the Democrat Party. Speaking truth about race destroys the race card)
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To: MtnClimber

My predication: Biden’s ‘adventures’ will get us into a needless or avoidable spat with Russia and China and we’ll get a taste of a modern military (rather than a maternity ward). We’ll quickly back down, but with the world instantly realizing that we’re no longer king of the hill.

And with that crashes the dollar, and with that goes our standard of living. China will then rule, but on the good side, Western Europe will realize the days of playing stupid games regarding their national security (because big-daddy USA was always there for them) must now end, and they’ll actually improve their situation.


18 posted on 03/16/2021 1:19:39 PM PDT by BobL (TheDonald.win is now Patriots.win)
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I can see your prediction happening...hopefully not worse. Our transgender and woke military is just a social experiment that will disrupt our own country, not fight an enemy.


19 posted on 03/16/2021 1:24:22 PM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

The Sovereign Crime of Industrial Scale Vote Fraud
> March 16
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2021/03/the_sovereign_crime_of_industrial_scale_vote_fraud.html

Recently our team was invited to meet with 2020 election fraud investigators in downtown Austin. Our team, with some of the top criminal profiling talent in the country, was happy to attend. At the last minute, our new pals cancelled their meeting. Since we changed our schedules and lost those days, we decided to hold our own confab.

Our team members were the lead builders of one of the world’s most sophisticated criminal profiling systems in use by law enforcement today. We broke the eBay auction fraud rings and deployed a never-before-used technology to end auction fraud as an emerging crime category. We identified numerous Medicaid fraud rings and were hired by most of the top 10 property and casualty insurance firms to solve auto crash rings that eluded the FBI and every fraud technology.
[rest at link]

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2021/03/the_sovereign_crime_of_industrial_scale_vote_fraud.html


20 posted on 03/16/2021 2:54:29 PM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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