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Harper’s Weekly – March 16, 1861
Harper's Weekly archives ^ | March 16, 1861

Posted on 03/16/2021 6:09:23 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson

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Free Republic University, Department of History presents U.S. History, 1855-1860: Seminar and Discussion Forum
Bleeding Kansas, Dred Scott, Lincoln-Douglas, Harper’s Ferry, the election of 1860, secession – all the events leading up to the Civil War, as seen through news reports of the time and later historical accounts

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Link to previous Harper’s Weekly thread

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1 posted on 03/16/2021 6:09:23 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson
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To: chajin; henkster; CougarGA7; BroJoeK; central_va; Larry Lucido; wagglebee; Colonel_Flagg; Amagi; ...
Two Nights in the Senate – 1, 3
The Inaugural Procession at Washington Passing the Gate of the Capitol Grounds – 2
The Lounger – 3-4
Humors of the Day – 4-5
Interior of Fort Sumter – 5-6
The Norfolk Navy-Yard – 5, 7
The United States Frigate “Sabine” off Fort Pickens – 5, 8
The Inauguration – 9-10, 13
The Work of a Wind – 10
Domestic Intelligence – 10-12
Foreign News – 12, 14
The Lover’s Sacrifice – 14-15
A Day’s Ride: A Life’s Romance, By Charles Lever, Ch XLI-XLII – 15-17
The Forts in Texas – 17-18, 20
Arsenal at Washington – 19-20
Great Expectations, by Charles Dickens, Ch XXIV-XXV – 20-22
Office-Seekers at Washington during the Inauguration – 23
The New Opera. Ballo in Maschera – 24
A Dust-Storm in Broadway – 24
2 posted on 03/16/2021 6:10:44 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation gets the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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Continued from March 15 (reply #27).

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3940776/posts#27

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Doris Kearns Goodwin, Team of Rivals

3 posted on 03/16/2021 6:12:09 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation gets the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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Regarding the William Howard Russell diary entries: He was an Irish war correspondent of the Times of London and recently arrived in the U.S. Maybe he is expecting trouble to break out. He will remain here until 1863 reporting, I understand, from both the north and the south. He is, or will be by summer, a celebrity journalist. Jim Miller has almost daily journal entries by Russell at the Civil War Notebook site. I will plant them in my Harper’s Weekly threads.

His first entry is long so I just posted the link (last one in this reply). If it is indicative of his practice he will provide lots of interesting detail for years to come. Note that he correctly spells “Fort Sumter” but incorrectly places Fort Pickens in Alabama.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Howard_Russell

Simon Cameron to Abraham Lincoln, March 16, 1861
https://civilwarnotebook.blogspot.com/2016/09/simon-cameron-to-abraham-lincoln-march.html

Salmon P. Chase to Abraham Lincoln, March 16, 1861
https://civilwarnotebook.blogspot.com/2016/09/salmon-p-chase-to-abraham-lincoln-march.html

Caleb B. Smith to Abraham Lincoln, March 16, 1861
https://civilwarnotebook.blogspot.com/2016/09/caleb-b-smith-to-abraham-lincoln-march.html

Major Thomas J. Jackson to Mary Anna Morrison Jackson, March 16, 1861
https://civilwarnotebook.blogspot.com/2014/02/major-thomas-j-jackson-to-mary-anna_19.html

Diary of William Howard Russell: March 16, 1861
https://civilwarnotebook.blogspot.com/2014/12/diary-of-william-howard-russell-march.html


4 posted on 03/16/2021 6:13:28 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation gets the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Homer_J_Simpson
On the Civil War timeline a number of important events are going on "as we speak", so to speak... Confederates authorized 100,000 troops at a time when the US army totaled around 16,000 mostly scattered in small forts out west.
5 posted on 03/16/2021 12:17:24 PM PDT by BroJoeK ((a little historical perspective...) )
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To: BroJoeK

I missed that big item about the authorization of 100,000 Confederate troops. I went back and checked the NYT reporting on the Congress of the C.S.A and found only “The Army bill passed as reported, and 50,000 men will soon be ready to take the field.” That in the March 9 edition (page 4).

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3940772/posts


6 posted on 03/16/2021 1:00:15 PM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation gets the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Homer_J_Simpson
The Statutes at Large of the Provisional Government of the Confederate States of America, lists: Wikipedia says: And later: The source for that is listed as: "[20] United States. War Dept (1900). Official Records of the Union and Confederate Armies. p. 134."

Finally:

The Confederate force at Fort Sumter is estimated up to 6,000 and at Fort Pickens perhaps another thousand.

My source is Fredriksen's Civil War Almanac which is less than 100% accurate...

7 posted on 03/17/2021 2:36:25 AM PDT by BroJoeK ((a little historical perspective...) )
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Rutherford B. Hayes to Sardis Birchard, March 17, 1861
https://civilwarnotebook.blogspot.com/2014/03/rutherford-b-hayes-to-sardis-birchard_16.html

Diary of William Howard Russell: Sunday, March 17, 1861
https://civilwarnotebook.blogspot.com/2015/01/diary-of-william-howard-russell.html

Russell on NYC housing: “Some of the doors are on the same level as the street, with a basement story beneath; others are approached by flights of steps, the basement for servants having the entrance below the steps, and this, I believe, is the old Dutch fashion, and the name of “stoop” is still retained for it.”

On American women: “[T]he American woman is not only well shod and well gloved, but that she has no reason to fear comparisons, in foot or hand with any daughter of Eve, except, perhaps, the Hindoo.”

On the political temper in NYC: ”I met several gentlemen, one of whom said, ‘the majority of the people of New York, and all the respectable people, were disgusted at the election of such a fellow as Lincoln to be President, and would back the Southern States, if it came to a split.’”

William Howard Russell – check him out.


8 posted on 03/17/2021 6:11:22 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation gets the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: BroJoeK

I didn’t doubt your 100,000 figure. Even with that in the planning, expecting to “soon” have 50,000 of them ready to go seems a bit optimistic.

I always thought it was crazy that McClellan and others in the union accepted intel about Confederate troop numbers so easily, given the disparity in the untapped manpower resources, north and south. It makes more sense to me now, seeing that the south was quicker to authorize a mobilization. If the manpower isn’t enlisted it doesn’t count for battle planning purposes.


9 posted on 03/17/2021 6:40:05 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation gets the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: DiogenesLamp
quoting William Howard Russell: "On the political temper in NYC: 'I met several gentlemen, one of whom said, ‘the majority of the people of New York, and all the respectable people, were disgusted at the election of such a fellow as Lincoln to be President, and would back the Southern States, if it came to a split.’ ”
William Howard Russell – check him out."

To DiogenesLamp -- I've been telling you, these are the people you keep calling Lincoln's "Northeastern Power Brokers".
They were Southern sympathizing Democrats, they hated Republicans generally and Lincoln especially, just as today they hate "deplorables" and Donald Trump.

I'm asking you to let that sink in...

10 posted on 03/17/2021 8:04:46 AM PDT by BroJoeK ((a little historical perspective...) )
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To: Homer_J_Simpson
"I didn’t doubt your 100,000 figure.
Even with that in the planning, expecting to “soon” have 50,000 of them ready to go seems a bit optimistic."

At a time when the US Army was roughly 16,000 and most scattered in small forts out west, an authorized Confederate army of 100,000 a full month before events at Fort Sumter seems a bit overwhelming.
But how many did they actually have?

  1. 8,000 volunteers called on March 8
  2. 20,000 volunteers called on April 8
  3. =28,000 theoretically enlisted by, say, April 12
But the actual Confederate force is estimated as max of 6,000 at Charleston Harbor (under Beauregard) and maybe 1,000 at Fort Pickens (under Bragg), as of April 12.
And Charleston could have been as few as 600 with Fort Pickens just a few hundred.
11 posted on 03/17/2021 8:26:49 AM PDT by BroJoeK ((a little historical perspective...) )
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

Stoop is of Dutch origin. Learn something new every day.


12 posted on 03/17/2021 8:47:51 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

The irony of an open Washington DC during a period of national unrest and succession at Lincoln’s inauguration vs. Biden’s inauguration with national guard troops and checkpoints after a fabricated “insurrection” by civilians is rich.


13 posted on 03/17/2021 8:56:09 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: Rebelbase

I’ve only read carefully the first two of Russell’s pieces since he reached these shores. He is a Roman candle of information. If this keeps up I can see myself developing a man crush on our foreign guest.


14 posted on 03/17/2021 9:08:00 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation gets the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

Neither of my parents were Dutch, so far as I know (German and English I think), but they used the word “stoop.”


15 posted on 03/17/2021 10:37:10 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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+1

X 10

X 1010 !

16 posted on 03/17/2021 1:21:16 PM PDT by BroJoeK ((a little historical perspective...) )
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To: colorado tanker

Stoop is the common vernacular in the real estate industry.


17 posted on 03/17/2021 1:58:17 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: BroJoeK
Yes, there were New Yorkers that sympathized with the Southern side, and why not? They were raking in about 60% of the total revenue produced by Southern exports.

They would want that to continue, wouldn't they?

Also, don't forget that William Seward was their guy, and many rightly believed that Lincoln had stolen the nomination from him with a bunch of chicanery, which is in fact true.

I can fully understand why they would be disgusted by the man who had stolen an election from them.

This thread loads too slowly for me. I will probably have to skip any further discussion in it.

18 posted on 03/17/2021 2:43:53 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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Continued from March 1 (reply #34).

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3937001/posts#34

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William J. Cooper, Jr., Jefferson Davis, American

19 posted on 03/18/2021 6:01:23 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation gets the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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James Buchanan to Major-General John A. Dix, March 18, 1861
https://civilwarnotebook.blogspot.com/2015/07/james-buchanan-to-major-general-john.html

Thomas Bayne to William Still, March 18, 1861
https://civilwarnotebook.blogspot.com/2018/04/thomas-bayne-to-william-still-march-18.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Bayne_(Sam_Nixon)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Still

Diary of William Howard Russell: Monday, March 18, 1861

https://civilwarnotebook.blogspot.com/2015/01/diary-of-william-howard-russell-monday.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Howard_Russell

Sample paragraph. It sounds like the 69th New York Regiment is far from ready to march “On to Richmond.”

“First came the acting Brigadier-General and his staff, escorted by 40 lancers, very ill-dressed, and worse mounted: horses dirty, accoutrements in the same condition, bits, bridles, and buttons rusty and tarnished; uniforms ill-fitting, and badly put on. But the red flags and the show pleased the crowd, and they cheered “bould Nugent” right loudly. A band followed, some members of which had been evidently ‘smiling’ with each other; and next marched a body of drummers in military uniform, rattling away in the French fashion. Here comes the 69th N. Y. State Militia Regiment — the battalion which would not turn out when the Prince of Wales was in New York, and whose Colonel, Corcoran, is still under court martial for his refusal. Well, the Prince had no loss, and the Colonel may have had other besides political reasons for his dislike to parade his men.”


20 posted on 03/18/2021 6:05:25 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation gets the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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