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Did right-wing crowds trample Roseanne Boyland to death?
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Posted on 02/24/2021 7:51:17 AM PST by dangus

I've been utterly perplexed by claims that Ashli Babbitt wasn't actually killed by police. What purpose is served by the police falsely creating a martyr? But I just saw footage of Roseanne Boyland's death and I'm much more disturbed.

First off, she doesn't appear to have been trampled in any of the video footage. The footage starts with her already sprawled out on the ground, largely undisturbed, while the police officer whose body camera this footage is taken from, simply wields a baton over her.

The crowd grows more and more angry, until as someone starts screaming, "she's dead!" it bursts past the police. At this point, the people who surge past the police are said to have trampled her. Only more than an hour later does she actually die. Another body, a Black person, is on the ground. Both bodies lie in about 5 to 8 feet of space between protestors and the police.

The entire media narrative seems based on the Justin Winchell, the person who (falsely) claimed that she was dead.

Let's back this up: Apparently, there was some confrontation between protestors and police, which hasn't been shown, at least by the major media providers (Washington Post, New York Times, etc.) Boyland ends up sprawled on the ground. The police provide no assistance to her. Someone starts screaming, "she's dead." How many people in the crowd are going to presume she died in conflict with the police? Did Winchell's screams ignite the violent conflict? Who knocked her to the ground?

Please, if you know the answers to the questions, provide them. I may ask follow-up questions but I'm more interested in finding out if answers are known than asserting a conspiracy.

I don't intend to finger Winchell as some sort of Deep-State agent; he's probably been through enough, and if his story doesn't make sense, that's quite possibly a result of confusion and trauma. There definitely seem to be other provocateurs, such as a hooded figure who leaps over her.


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1 posted on 02/24/2021 7:51:17 AM PST by dangus
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To: dangus

Narrative has been written and the rest is deemed conspiracy theories and those speaking such nonsense are crazy and need meds. Isn’t that what the left is doing? Steamrolling all rational thought for a lie?


2 posted on 02/24/2021 7:57:41 AM PST by Karliner (Heb 4:12 Rom 8:28 Rev 3, "...This is the end of the beginning." Churchill)
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I don’t know if it’s relevant or not but she had recently gotten clean from a drug addiction.

There’s a possibility drugs damaged her heart or that she was away from home and her support system and somehow went back to drugs.

After getting off drugs it’s easy to OD when you go back to it.

Or she was trampled as they say...


3 posted on 02/24/2021 8:02:09 AM PST by Irenic
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To: dangus
I've been utterly perplexed by claims that Ashli Babbitt wasn't actually killed by police. What purpose is served by the police falsely creating a martyr? But I just saw footage of Roseanne Boyland's death and I'm much more disturbed.

 

Who is Roseanne Boyland? Never heard of her before. Is she now a victim killed on January 6?

This is now the third FR thread I've read today calling into question whether or not the entire Capital Riot was just a staged event. Nobody died. That this is another Sandy Hook event that never really happened.

Now. Should I get my tin foil hat? Or some popcorn to enjoy the show?

4 posted on 02/24/2021 8:05:22 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (Trump is a deposed Pres. in exile. America is truly a banana republic. Our govt. has been overthrown)
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Is there a coroner’s report? Autopsy? That would clue us in to the cause of death.


5 posted on 02/24/2021 8:18:42 AM PST by reagandemocrat (Underground Resistance in Vichy California)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Answer to my own question....

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/15/us/rosanne-boyland-capitol-riot-death.html


6 posted on 02/24/2021 8:18:59 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (Trump is a deposed Pres. in exile. America is truly a banana republic. Our govt. has been overthrown)
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To: Irenic

Or she was an actor. Unfortunately, with a completely compromised media, nothing can be taken off the table as too outlandish anymore.


7 posted on 02/24/2021 8:33:09 AM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Apparently one of the two or three people who had medical issues that day that the media counts and implies as having been killed by rioters rather than by health issues?


8 posted on 02/24/2021 8:36:03 AM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Karliner

“The trouble with our Liberal friends is not that they’re ignorant; it’s just that they know so much that isn’t so.” - Ronald Reagan

And that unerring belief in the narrative controls so much of what they say and do.


9 posted on 02/24/2021 8:47:27 AM PST by alloysteel (Praise the Lord, and pass the ammunition.)
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Trampling injuries and even deaths sadly aren’t all that uncommon when impromptu crowds gather, particularly in confined spaces. Most cities have outlawed festival concert seating for this very reason. Just about every year, serious injuries are reported due to retail store doors being opened on Black Friday mornings. Although, that has abated somewhat recently since more and more stores have (sadly) adopted Thanksgiving shopping.

With respect to why some people are predisposed to see conspiracy theories everywhere, that’s a good question. It’s a dynamic that impacts both the hyper-left and hyper-right. The psychological defect that allows people to believe that AIDS was a CIA plot against minorities is the same defect that encourages people to believe Ashli Babbitt didn’t really die at the hands of Capitol Police and instead was a CIA/FBI crisis actor.

Nutters are gonna nut.


10 posted on 02/24/2021 8:51:47 AM PST by ScubaDiver (Reddit refugee.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Why does everything have to be 100% true or 100% a hoax?


11 posted on 02/24/2021 9:02:47 AM PST by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts )
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To: alloysteel

Good quote but I believe that’s William F. Buckley.


12 posted on 02/24/2021 9:03:27 AM PST by AloneInMass (You'd think there would be more similarity between "chain letter" and "chain mail".)
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Show me the police report?
Show me the hospital and the paramedics that tried to save Ashli?
Show me why the shooter still has not been officially identified?
Show me the doctor that attended her?
Show me a autopsy?
Show me a death certificate?
Show me a military funeral, not a memorial, a funeral?
Show me where I can send flowers to her grave?


13 posted on 02/24/2021 9:09:27 AM PST by The MAGA-Deplorian (Sarcasm. It's my only natural defense against stupidity)
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To: Karliner

‘... will send them strong delusion that they will believe lies.’ There is demonic influence afoot, whether people want to believe it or not, it is happening right in front of cameras.


14 posted on 02/24/2021 9:11:14 AM PST by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: dangus
What purpose is served by the police falsely creating a martyr?

What was the purpose of the Reichstag Fire?

What was the purpose of Pallywood?

ML/NJ

15 posted on 02/24/2021 9:19:53 AM PST by ml/nj (DITCH MITCH !)
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To: AloneInMass

There are plenty of versions of that saying out there, attributed to various people. One of the earliest was published by Josh Billings in 1874: “I honestly beleave it iz better tew know nothing than two know what ain’t so.”


16 posted on 02/24/2021 9:47:34 AM PST by HartleyMBaldwin
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To: AloneInMass

Good quote but I believe that’s William F. Buckley.


Buckley may have said it also, but Reagan DID say it. I am actually old enough to remember him saying it. I think he actually lifted it from some quote from FDR.


17 posted on 02/24/2021 11:12:14 AM PST by sunny bonobo
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>> What was the purpose of the Reichstag Fire? <<

Presuming the Nazis set it, their intent would be to make fake PERPETRATORS, not fake MARTYRS!!! Can you seriously not see (no pun intended) how what you ask is the OPPOSITE of what I asked????


18 posted on 02/24/2021 11:15:55 AM PST by dangus
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To: Responsibility2nd

>> That this is another Sandy Hook event that never really happened. <<

I find your comparison absolutely vulgar and astonishing. I’m alleging bad coverage of an event at which at most two people died* and you’re comparing it to conspiracy theories insisting dozens of murdered children simply never existed.

(* The news media has conceded one police officer, their bloody shirt, was not injured at the event. Two other people died in the vicinity of the capitol on that day, but neither were at the protests.)


19 posted on 02/24/2021 11:21:47 AM PST by dangus
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To: Responsibility2nd

Unfortunately, the coroner’s report can’t say HOW she sustained whatever injuries she sustained... and that video that “shows how she was stampeded” does nothing of the sort.


20 posted on 02/24/2021 11:24:05 AM PST by dangus
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