Whatever gave her that idea? Perish the thought!😎
People routinely - correctly - blame the bad guy for stealing a car with the keys in it, or robbing a home when the door was left unlocked.
If we now want to claim to woman is culpable in this realm, then I expect FReepers to stop criticizing perpetrators, because I guess it really IS the homeowner's fault for having all that cool stuff.
Whatever gave her that idea? Perish the thought!😎
You miss her point.
She is talking about seduction not rape. Which is not a crime.
If you have a big glass of the finest whiskey in front of someone who can not drink, making frequent remarks about how good it is, that person still has total responsibility if they decide to empty the bottle.
Their responsibility does not make you any less of a total jerk for actively putting temptation in their path.
Females who dress in a provocative way around men who are trying to behave are on the same level of total jerk.
Are the men fully responsible for what they did? Yes.
Are the women fully responsible for what they did? Yes.
The entire point is being kind and not a jerk.
Something the world could use a lot more of.
Not to be too confrontational, but,
Leaving your house unlocked is not the same as going down an alley at 2:00 in the morning with $100 dollar bills hanging out your pocket. The perpetrator is wrong in both instances, but the guy being in the alley in the first place didn’t help himself very much.
On the issue of temptation, Paul made the point that he would never eat meat again if it caused his brothers or sisters in the Lord to sin. Yeah, they were the week ones, but he wanted his hands clean before the Lord.
Yeah, the women can wear what they want, but God judges the heart. And if they did it to make people lust or to highlight themselves above others, than they have some dirt on their hands also.
Your analogy only works if the thief only THINKS ABOUT stealing the car - moving from thought to action is self control. Thoughts can be spurred by circumstance, like the keys in the ignition.
As Camille Paglia famously said, Yes you have a legal right to walk around in Central Park at 2 am but if you are going to I’d be saying “girl what are you thinking?” Ditto the eedjit who leaves his door unlocked or his keys in the car. The law defines the perpetrator, common sense defines the dummy. There is such a thing as asking for it.
A man’s responsibility for self control is 100%.
Show me someone who says ‘she deserved it’ based on her appearance, or in *ANY* way excuses less than chivalrous behavior based on a woman’s dress or demeanor and I’ll show you someone who needs 158 grains in the cerebellum.
A man without self control is good only for donating organs to actual human beings.
no excuses, no forgiveness
A radical feminist once told me that she should be able to walk down the street naked and if a man found it provocative or looked at her wrong it’d be a form of rape.
Careful here: there’s a fine line between “female empowerment” and strippers, something the feminazis simply ignore.