Posted on 02/11/2021 11:46:25 AM PST by RandFan
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SOURCE: Fox's CEO, Lachlan Murdoch, is considering suspending or firing @TuckerCarlson for insensitive reporting on new court documents that show George Floyd had a fatal level of fentanyl in his system when he died. (developing)
2/ Fox's Lachlan Murdoch heard about Tucker Carlson's 'attack' on George Floyd from Hillary Clinton's former spokesmen Jesse Lehrich who said, "Tucker Carlson smeared George Floyd tonight, claiming he 'almost certainly died of a drug overdose.' (cont)
3/ "...it sickens me that the Floyd family has to endure this depravity, and I hope they sue Tucker & FOX for $3B, which is apparently the only thing that changes their behavior."
Jesse Lehrich:-
Tucker Carlson smeared George Floyd tonight, claiming he 'almost certainly died of a drug overdose.'
it sickens me that the Floyd family has to endure this depravity, and I hope they sue Tucker & FOX for $3B, which is apparently the only thing that changes their behavior.
Lachlan is such a rube, that he literally believes that Zucker being fired by ATT/CNN is the golden oppo to move into CNN territory. I won’t be surprised if he poaches the airport network CNN recently abandoned. This guy is so 2007 it hurts. His Dad ought to give him one last everlasting smack across his skull...
As I’ve said repeatedly (every time I post), TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.
The main thing is for all of us to dump Fox News, which is obviously going to the dark side thanks to the leadership of Lachlan Murdoch and the Fox board.
For three months after Floyd died, the body cams were kept under wraps by the Minnesota attorney general Keith Allison. After they were released, a video was put together in defense of the police officers (24 min):
https://centaurfilmworks.com/
The media and the tech companies are trying to marginalize anyone who threatens their agenda.
They will also move against Hannity and the FBN woman.
Hannity is a team player for Team GOPe. No chance they “go after him.”
What I am about to say may be unpopular, but it is true. Most major metro police departments train their officer to treat people with Naloxone if they show signs of Fentynal overdose. Even if the person seems dead but the body is warm, I was told that Chicago PD will give the shot. I was told that people have recovered and started breathing again almost instantly. I have no proof of that just what a cop told me. One major sign of Fentynal poisoning is asphyxiation. Put two and two together, they found fentynal on Floyd and he is choking. At a minimum the EMTs should have administered an antidote based on available information. If the MPD taught the knee on the neck restraint as claimed and did not provide their officers with a fentynal antidote, oops it is the MPDs fault the officers just followed established protocol. However, if officers were trained to use a fentynal antidote and did not when Floyd pleaded he could not breath there may be a case for negligence. If the MPD did not teach the knee restraint as protocol, that becomes a more serious charge. My point being I believe three of the four officers will get off. Chauvin will be accused of something so they can remove him legally from the department. I see at least three major lawsuits against the City.
If Chauivn was trained on using Naloxone and trained to recognized Fentynal poisoning and he failed to act according to that training and instead chose the restrain Floyd, I don't know what all that would mean under Minnesota law, but it does not equate to murder. All in all, I do not think Chauvin is a good guy, just a personal feeling. But, I do not think his actions were racist or murder.
I am assuming you are a large metro cop and can speak cogently on what does and does not make a competent cop in a major metro area. You are fully trained in crowd control and arrest procedures. Because if none of that is true you are just talking out your backside. You are repeating one side of a complex story.
Have you ever tried to restrain someone that does not want to be restrained? You make it sound like one simple BJJ move and the handcuffs are on slick as goose $hi+. What neighborhood were they in? Was it nearly impossible not to draw a crowd? You say Chauvin was incompetent, I am not so sure I feel comfortable saying that as I am not a MPD cop. You cannot convict a man for what was in his heart and in his mind, you can only convict him for his actions. You cannot prove anything else.
All of that said, as I have stated I believe three officers will get off and sue the city. Those men will never be able to work as cops again. Chauvin will be charged and convicted of something so they can legally fire him. Floyd was no hero, he was in fact a criminal. Floyd should never have been the focus of protests and riots. Floyd appears to have been loved by his family, but he was a flawed man whose flaws brought him to the meeting with the police and his death.
News actors, I like that...thanks
Chauivn arrived late on the scene. I don’t think he saw much of Floyd’s behavior.
That was George Orwell.
Clinically, I'm stating one fact (what was in the official autopsy report) and opining elsewhere. We could say that "And if Floyd died of a drug OD in the patrol car, we wouldn't be here." is speculation but has a high probability of being realistic.
Also do you know how little Fentynal it takes to kill? It ain't much as little as 0.75 ng/m.
Many rock stars ingest booze and drugs in such ridiculous quantities that they'd kill normal people. And yet they live to write books about it. Similarly, it is fair to say that if the level of fentenyl in Floyd's bloodstream was akin to a having downed a fifth of Everclear, then sure... it was potentially toxic. But to say he definitively OD'd from the drug is as believable as is the family's autopsy.
I am assuming you are a large metro cop and can speak cogently on what does and does not make a competent cop in a major metro area. You are fully trained in crowd control and arrest procedures.
No, I'm none of what you state.
Because if none of that is true you are just talking out your backside.
By your words, you are intimating that without first-hand experience we should keep quiet on such matters. Are only "climate scientists" allowed to speak of global warming, medical professionals the only ones to talk about COVID19, and so on? Must a man or woman be a card-carrying economist to state "There is going to be a downturn economically, if we are lucky we have a year to ride on the dying wave that is the Trump economic plan."?
Assuming I'm permitted to speak freely, based on lots of reading of police situations chiefly in Manhattan, and hearing from police officers, there are competent and incompetent cops. There are bad guys, too, and I'm willing to grant the police wide berth in such situations - in the same way the actions of military men and women under fire shouldn't be judged by us civilians in our HEPA-filtered, well-lit and secure offices.
When an incompetent cop get riled up, they become dangerous. It happened frequently in NYC. In this case I saw the footage and I saw a bad guy being incapacitated by an incompetent cop using a legal but by many accounts dangerous move. I think it's reasonable to presume that a competent cop would have handled that better...in part, because there are scores of hopped-up slugs on the streets of America and, as bad as the MSM is, I am not seeing a conga line of Floyd-like guys dying in police custody. I've also heard from people who ARE police et al and they feel the same way I do.
In a way, this is a bit like Dubya vs Lurch and Romney vs Obama. Dubya was great on 9/11 and sucked on just about everything else, but we aimed at Lurch and didn't speak ill of Dubya. Same with Romney...pretty much everyone who voted for him did it through grit teeth and we defended him against leftist attacks. Nowadays, we speak freely about these jackwagons yet you'd have been zotted had you done so back in the day. I believe many defend Chauvin out of fear that they'd be giving aid and comfort to Antifa et al if they spoke out against him.
Floyd, as I said, was no Saint. And, to be fair, he started this. I don't know what was in Chauvin's heart, and frankly I don't care. He's a lousy cop and the extent to which normally rational Deplorables are bending over backward to defend this loser is stunning. The world would be a better place if we didn't champion incompetence.
We ELECT people to propose solutions.
“...court documents that show George Floyd had a fatal level of fentanyl in his system when he died.”
Its effects include extreme happiness, drowsiness, nausea, confusion, constipation, sedation, tolerance, addiction, respiratory depression and arrest, unconsciousness, coma, and death.
https://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/drugfacts/fentanyl
He did die of a fentanyl overdose in a way. His diseased heart stopped triggered by an asthma attack cause by the fentanyl. Asthma attacks are not always observable and can effect the heart without an observable warning.
Carlson was right and he had published medical prove of it available. If the family is so upset, after all this time and the proof applied, they need counselling, not an opinion of the truth. They need to move on or not watch shows that can trigger bad emotions. The fault for that is there’s not Carlson’s.
But as FOX continues to “drift” into Disney’s control, this is going to happen. Ask the other conservative hosts that have been sacked recently.
wy69
Newsmax nor OAN comes close to uncovering the material Tucker does.
See this is where you try to sound like some expert but come off sound foolish. Man jumps off the Golden Gate Bridge and survives your argument is then it must be safe. Have you ever lost a family member to fentynal? This stuff is no joke. Its killing people by the thousands in this country and you equate it to drinking bottle of Everclear. Damn, you are either being hyperbolic, trolling or you are just special.
“By your words, you are intimating that without first-hand experience we should keep quiet on such matters.”
No I am telling you is that you are not an expert so stop trying to sound like one.
“Must a man or woman be a card-carrying economist to state “There is going to be a downturn economically, if we are lucky we have a year to ride on the dying wave that is the Trump economic plan.”?”
No dipstick, but it does help to have a graduate degree on the subject. To have worked in government and have experience with public policy. So...I speak not as an expert, but as someone who has the graduate degree and the experience. Does not make me an expert just a student of the subject. I take it your degree is in some form of criminal law then.
Of course you can speak freely and you can be freely disagreed with. I am not defending Chauvin, at all. But all we have heard is one side of the story, until we hear the defense we have limited knowledge. Being an expert on the subject, i am sure you are aware that in similar situations cops were not convicted because the City trained and allowed them to use certain dangerous techniques. I asked a cop about it and he said his department does not allow that technique, but others do. I guess we will find out during the trial.
Again it comes down to you deciding a cop is incompetent but you have no experience or expertise in this matter. You compare fentynal to Everclear and suggest drugs must be safe, entertainers use the stuff all the time if it was dangerous they would all be dead. Aren't you special!
I haven't watched any of the Fox big 3 since November and yet I'm still here. Perhaps those talking heads don't have as much influence on today's events as you think.
Let’s see if this is the truth or not. Wouldn’t trust Lachlan with my dead cat. He’d probably molest it. /sarc
I'm trying to stay INFORMED!
and you can't do that here? How did FR manage when Tucker was on CNN? If he does get fired and decides to retire will FR have to shut down?
If you want to watch Tucker and support the haters that's your business. Just don't demean yourself by trying to pretend he has some sort of insight you can't get anywhere else. Even the demiGod himself gets most of his material from other sources then comments on it. The wheel was invented long before he showed up.
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