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THE NATIONAL CRISIS: Explanation of the Mission of Ex-President Tyler; THE DISUNION QUESTION; Editorial-England and a Southern Confederacy (1/26/1861)
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| 1/26/1861
Posted on 01/26/2021 6:22:20 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson
WASHINGTON, Friday, Jan. 25.
Ex-President TYLER communicated to the President to day the resolutions of the Virginia Legislature relative to a settlement of the national difficulties. Mr. TYLER intimates that Virginia could easily be satisfied, if speaking only for herself, but that her destiny is with the Cotton States, and she can only assent to such a basis of settlement as will be satisfactory to the latter. Is this really the sentiment of Virginia? Is it her mission to take care of the Southern extremists, rather than ascertain what is right and ask that? For we are entitled to suppose that Virginia would not be satisfied with less than what she considers "right." If she gets this is she prepared to go out of the Union because the Cotton States can't have a recognition of the absolute right of property in man? The earnest hope is expressed by Mr. TYLER that all the Northern States may immediately indicate a purpose to send delegates to Washington, as it will strengthen the hands of the Union-men in Virginia at her election on the 4th of February. He has telegraphed to Richmond advising a postponement of the day of holding the Convention, so as to enable every Border and Northern State to be represented.
A member of the Virginia Legislature, now here, expresses his belief that that body will, by a two-thirds vote, declare fidelity to the Union.
The dispatches from Kentucky, yesterday, it appears, were only designed to express the opinion that no Convention would be called. To-night we have a rumor that a Convention is ordered. Others deny it, and dispatches received in town are positive in the prediction that none will be called in any contingency.
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TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: civilwar
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posted on
01/26/2021 6:23:34 AM PST
by
Homer_J_Simpson
("Every nation gets the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
To: chajin; henkster; CougarGA7; BroJoeK; central_va; Larry Lucido; wagglebee; Colonel_Flagg; Amagi; ...
The National Crisis: Explanation of the Mission of Ex-President Tyler – 2-6
The Disunion Question: Southern Correspondence – 6-7
Editorial: England and a Southern Confederacy – 7-8
Editorial: Light from Kentucky! – 8
Editorial: Provide for the Navy! – 8
Treason by Telegraph – 8-9
Editorial: Duty of Preparation for the Future Movements of Secession – 9-10
Editorial: Coolies and Cotton – 10
Whoop! – 10
Editorial: Seizure of Arms for Traitors – 10-11
Free Trade in Impossible Ports – 11
The Women’s Hospital – 11
The Secession Question: Probable Course of England and France towards the South – 11-12
Visitors to Mr. Lincoln – 12
Later from the Pacific: Arrival of the Overland Mail – 12
News from Denver – 12
Lectures on European Politics – 12
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posted on
01/26/2021 6:24:45 AM PST
by
Homer_J_Simpson
("Every nation gets the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
To: Homer_J_Simpson
To: Homer_J_Simpson
POTUS Tyler has a grandson still alive today.
To: one guy in new jersey
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posted on
01/26/2021 7:38:24 AM PST
by
Homer_J_Simpson
("Every nation gets the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
To: Homer_J_Simpson
President Tyler is the only President who did not have a state funeral.
He still has 2 living grand children.
Have a feeling President Trump won’t get a state funeral.
To: Homer_J_Simpson; DiogenesLamp; x; rockrr; Bull Snipe; jmacusa; rustbucket
And yet again, for the benefit of those who were taught & marinated in Marxist dialectical class-warfare, and now can't see the world through any other lens, a wonderful passage, well worth repeating:
"Editorial: England and a Southern Confederacy – 7-8"
"Those persons, South or North, who look for the speedy recognition of the independence of a Southern Confederacy by the Government of the United States, would do well to dismiss that delusion as speedily as possible.
That recognition will come when the South compel it, and not before.
It is all very well to talk of the horrors of war, the blessings of peace, and the shameful spectacle which civil war would present in this enlightened age.
But there are other things which are "shameful" as well as war.
There are other sources of blessing besides peace.
Human nature has not essentially changed since the age of CROMWELL and the Puritans.
And those who expect the people of this country to sit down quietly and see this FREE REPUBLIC prostrated in the dust, -- its liberties overthrown with its Constitution, -- its power defied and its flag disgraced, -- the fairest portion of its territory severed from the Union, -- a great Slave Empire planted on its Southern section, -- aiming at nothing but the extinction of every lingering vestige of humanity from millions of men, -- grasping the whole tropical continent and dedicating it forever to the dominion of the most absolute and infamous system of human Slavery the world has ever seen, -- prostrating all our commerce, all our national growth, all the instincts and impulses of an ambitious, aspiring civilization at the feet of this one idea, abhorrent to the heart and the conscience of the world -- have much to learn of the temper of our people and of the spirit of the age in which they live.
If the Southern States have more power, more wealth, more courage to do and to endure, and a better cause to fight for, than the North, they may, after five or six years of war, establish their independence and compel us to recognize it.
If not -- not. One of the most unmistakable marks of the insanity that has overtaken the people of the Southern States is this expectation of help from England.
No wilder dream ever entered the head of the inmate of a lunatic asylum.
Lord PALMERSTON said only the other day that England wished only for continued prosperity to the United States.
She has no interest in our disruption, -- nothing to gain and much to lose by giving that disastrous step the slightest aid or encouragement..."
Notice here that not one word of it speaks of Marxist dialectical materialism, class warfare, "money flows from Europe", "Northeastern power brokers" or any of the other nonsense our Lost Causers love to conjure up for us.
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posted on
01/26/2021 3:38:46 PM PST
by
BroJoeK
((a little historical perspective...) )
To: BroJoeK
Profound Bro Joe. You put it all clearly and the Lost Causer's never utter a peep. Not even the irrepressible “Diogenes’’.
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posted on
01/26/2021 10:17:46 PM PST
by
jmacusa
(Liberals. Too stupid to be idiots.)
To: Homer_J_Simpson
Up until about a year ago or so two grandsons were still kickin’ it live. Now, just one grandson. Of a guy born during George Washington’s first term
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